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Allaboutthemeat
March 9th, 2011, 02:07 PM
After reading a few threads where the debate is whether taking equipment from the public woods that seems abandoned is stealing or not, I got to thinking about putting identification on my equipment. I don't think it would be a good idea to use my name, phone, address, license #, etc., but what about scribing an e-mail address from hotmail or gmail or the like? That way if someone finds my stuff in the woods and they think it's abandoned and they want to try to find the rightful owner, then I've left contact info.

Do you think this idea has merit?

Skip

mdjohns300
March 9th, 2011, 02:14 PM
It can't hurt!

Stump Shooter
March 9th, 2011, 02:16 PM
Sure.

Joe W.
March 9th, 2011, 02:18 PM
That seems very reasonable....but why not put your name and maybe a cell # on it? Just askin'

VAHUNTER01
March 9th, 2011, 02:18 PM
i have a bunch of collar ID tags (stamped metal) for my coon hounds. they work great on the rail of my stands. they have contact info and name.

ILLbucknut
March 9th, 2011, 02:24 PM
After reading a few threads where the debate is whether taking equipment from the public woods that seems abandoned is stealing or not, I got to thinking about putting identification on my equipment. I don't think it would be a good idea to use my name, phone, address, license #, etc., but what about scribing an e-mail address from hotmail or gmail or the like? That way if someone finds my stuff in the woods and they think it's abandoned and they want to try to find the rightful owner, then I've left contact info.

Do you think this idea has merit?

Skip

You plan on leaving your stuff just laying out on public land? Take your stuff with you or lock it up, then theres no need for ID.

salthunter
March 9th, 2011, 02:36 PM
Way too many people have the mind set "I found It" that the property belongs to them
Ive had a number of items found that had my name and phone number ,.. Just made it easy for the guy who kept it to know who the "former owner" was:sad:

I have goose bands with my whole name and address on the cord of my power tools

Uncle Bucky
March 9th, 2011, 02:38 PM
I would have to say the both incidents, if true in report, then I seriously doubt that the any person taking any "abandonded " equipment on public property would be charged with , let alone convicted of, theft of any nature.

Seriously doubt any P/A would take forth a case like this. Before they even could the rightful owner would have to be notified and I imagine most of us that put in this situation once the rightful owner came forward would give the item back.

It can't hurt putting your name on a piece of equipment,a lot of states require trap tags for trappers for similar reasons.

Allaboutthemeat
March 9th, 2011, 02:40 PM
I don't think I'd want my name or phone number on it cuz i guess I'm paranoid.

I'm not planning on leaving my stuff just laying around and I do lock my equipment when I leave it for the season. I'm referring to situations that were described in some recent topics...tree saddle sitting in a field, a climber leaning on a rock pile... An honest hunter comes along and thinks it might be abandoned, they ask around, or notify an authority....but instead you've left an email addy so they could contact you directly.

It's just a thought I'm fleshing out.


Skip

shelrockbonez
March 9th, 2011, 02:43 PM
Not sure about stuff in the woods, but I have returned a few duck decoys with someone's name and contact on the bottom of it. Ended up with a 6 pack for my effort.

CAPTJJ
March 9th, 2011, 03:19 PM
According to the regulations in NY you need to put your name and address on any stand or blind left on State Land.

If you don't or leave it out past the end of the season it would be considered abandoned. You can't be charged with stealing an abandoned item.:shade:

vtbowhntr
March 9th, 2011, 03:35 PM
In Vermont you have to have your name, address and phone number clearly printed at eye level on all stands and blinds this includes climbers. Plus you cannot place a blind ,or tree stand and that includes natural blinds on any property without landowner permisssion.

jlh42581
March 9th, 2011, 04:01 PM
put a drivers license number on it. i dont put my address on stuff, especially traps. you never know what peta nut job might find your stuff and come to your house.

AppleOnMyHead
March 9th, 2011, 04:02 PM
Michigan.......name address and phone.......or its a ticket.

This makes it easy for them to ID thieves walking out with your stuff.

Thief, this is my buds stand and he asked me to take it down.....

CO...OK lets give him a call.

Hunt24/7NY
March 9th, 2011, 04:12 PM
According to the regulations in NY you need to put your name and address on any stand or blind left on State Land.

If you don't or leave it out past the end of the season it would be considered abandoned. You can't be charged with stealing an abandoned item.:shade:

I think you better read the regs again......in NYS you cant leave any stands on state land.......I think your talking about duck blinds

John C
March 9th, 2011, 04:25 PM
i have a bunch of collar ID tags (stamped metal) for my coon hounds. they work great on the rail of my stands. they have contact info and name.

I made orange waterproof lables informing that "this" piece of equipment has a GPS tracker for recovery. :walk:

ravensgait
March 9th, 2011, 04:26 PM
I don't think I'd want my name or phone number on it cuz i guess I'm paranoid.

I'm not planning on leaving my stuff just laying around and I do lock my equipment when I leave it for the season. I'm referring to situations that were described in some recent topics...tree saddle sitting in a field, a climber leaning on a rock pile... An honest hunter comes along and thinks it might be abandoned, they ask around, or notify an authority....but instead you've left an email addy so they could contact you directly.

It's just a thought I'm fleshing out.


Skip

LOL I see you try to hide here as well, I'll let you in on something, anyone with decent computer knowledge can have your name,address,age etc in a matter of minutes, well that is unless you lied to your ISP.. So you are not hiding from anyone who really wants to know where you are. I get a kick out of this guys are all over facebook etc and then worry about posting their state in their profile..

I lock my stands so if they go missing it is because they had help lol. Randy

Whack/Stack
March 9th, 2011, 04:28 PM
Copper trap tags are perfect for this. I have them on each treestand and each section of climbing sticks, etc. In fact it is the law in some states, as people already mentioned, Missouri is another one.

Stanley
March 9th, 2011, 05:17 PM
Yes.

CAPTJJ
March 9th, 2011, 05:32 PM
I think you better read the regs again......in NYS you cant leave any stands on state land.......I think your talking about duck blinds

Maybe you should ,I already did.:teeth: It's my job to know these things.:shade:

From DEC wbesite: Part 190: Use Of State Lands (http://www.dec.ny.gov/regs/4081.html#12999)

w. No person shall erect, construct, install, maintain, store, discard or abandon any structure or any other property on State lands or subsequently use such structure or property on State lands, except if the structure or property is authorized by the department or is:

4. a tree stand or hunting blind that does not injure a tree, is properly marked or tagged with the owner's name and address or valid hunting or fishing license number, and is placed and used during big game season, migratory game bird season, or turkey season;

me.hunter
March 9th, 2011, 06:44 PM
After reading a few threads where the debate is whether taking equipment from the public woods that seems abandoned is stealing or not, I got to thinking about putting identification on my equipment. I don't think it would be a good idea to use my name, phone, address, license #, etc., but what about scribing an e-mail address from hotmail or gmail or the like? That way if someone finds my stuff in the woods and they think it's abandoned and they want to try to find the rightful owner, then I've left contact info.

Do you think this idea has merit?

Skip

Here in Maine if you put a tree stand on any land but your own, by law you need your name and address attacked to the stand. If not you can lose your stand and be fined. Mel

nightcrawler
March 9th, 2011, 06:48 PM
In michigan you need name, address, and phone number to leave it on state land. It also has to be able to be read from the ground. I only saw 2 properly marked stands last year and one was mine. that was out of 60 or so treestands.