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crmoore83
January 1st, 2013, 02:02 PM
Just figured I'd share what I found when looking for some new arrows for incoming DNA. All numbers are from Ontarget2

Arrow: Easton Bloodline 330 cut at 28" (100g point, blazer vanes, standard nock)
PSE DNA
28" Draw 60lbs
Velocity: 283.00
GRS/LB: 6.68
FOC: 12.62%
KE: 70.7%

Arrow: Easton Bloodline 400 cut at 28" (100g point, blazer vanes, standard nock)
PSE DNA
28" 55lbs
Velocity: 283.2
GRS/LB: 6.64
FOC: 13.76%
KE: 65.05

Some additional arrows I ran through

Arrow: Beman ICS Hunter Pro 340 cut at 28" (100g point, blazer vanes, standard nock)
PSE DNA
28" 60lbs
Velocity: 284.0
GRS/LB: 6.59
FOC: 12.67
KE: 70.76

Arrow: Beman ICS Hunter Pro 400 cut at 28" (100g point, blazer vanes, standard nock)
PSE DNA
28" 55lbs
Velocity: 279.5
GRS/LB: 6.83
FOC: 13.29
KE: 65.13%

Arrow: Easton FMJ Camo 400 cut at 28" (100g point, blazer vanes, standard nock)
PSE DNA
28" 55lbs
Velocity: 260.3
GRS/LB: 7.79
FOC: 11.08
KE: 64.44

Arrow: Easton FMJ Camo 340
PSE DNA
28" 60lbs
Velocity: 260.8
GRS/LB: 7.65
FOC: 10%
KE 69.31

Please note that my arrow length ranges from 27.5 to 28.5 depending on the broadhead I will be using.

So far it seems like the Easton Bloodline 400 are the winner if I want to stay at 55lbs.

kwaldeier
January 1st, 2013, 02:57 PM
What would the gold tip hunter xt 5575be at 28/60? Waiting on my DNA and I don't have on target lol

crmoore83
January 1st, 2013, 04:05 PM
What would the gold tip hunter xt 5575be at 28/60? Waiting on my DNA and I don't have on target lol

Whats your arrow length?

crmoore83
January 1st, 2013, 04:16 PM
http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm156/crmoore83/XTHunter_zpse9ed95d0.jpg

Look to be weak based off arrow at 28".

26.5" arrow gets you right in the filter.

kwaldeier
January 1st, 2013, 04:50 PM
I can't go any shorter than 28. What would dropping the weight do? Looking at gold tips or carbon express

crmoore83
January 1st, 2013, 04:57 PM
I can't go any shorter than 28. What would dropping the weight do? Looking at gold tips or carbon express

You good at 55-56lbs of draw weight. What arrows from carbon express are you looking at?

at 55lbs
Velocity: 276.2
grs/lb: 6.975
FOC: 10.61%
KE: 64.92

kwaldeier
January 1st, 2013, 05:20 PM
Maxima hunters. 8.2 gpi on the 5575 right?

crmoore83
January 1st, 2013, 05:22 PM
You good at 55-56lbs of draw weight. What arrows from carbon express are you looking at?

at 55lbs
Velocity: 276.2
grs/lb: 6.975
FOC: 10.61%
KE: 64.92

That is on the Gold Tip Hunter XT

Let me run the Carbon Express real quick

crmoore83
January 1st, 2013, 05:25 PM
Maxima hunters. 8.2 gpi on the 5575 right?

Carbon Express Maxima Hunters 350 cut at 28"

http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm156/crmoore83/CE_zps8c77e0b1.jpg

kwaldeier
January 1st, 2013, 05:27 PM
So optimal spine is. 360 for this bow at 28, 28 and 60?

crmoore83
January 1st, 2013, 05:43 PM
So optimal spine is. 360 for this bow at 28, 28 and 60?

yes and no. Optimal spine will change somewhat depending on arrow being used.

The carbon express arrow is better than the Gold Tip Hunter based off Ontarget2

kwaldeier
January 1st, 2013, 05:49 PM
Okay sounds good! Easton acc?

kwaldeier
January 1st, 2013, 05:59 PM
Sorry just trying to double check. It told me 350 axis for my omen and was wrong

Rick!
January 3rd, 2013, 07:34 AM
Just figured I'd share what I found when looking for some new arrows for incoming DNA. All numbers are from Ontarget2

Arrow: Easton Bloodline 330 cut at 28" (100g point, blazer vanes, standard nock)
PSE DNA
28" Draw 60lbs
Velocity: 283.00
GRS/LB: 6.68
FOC: 12.62%
KE: 70.7%

Arrow: Easton Bloodline 400 cut at 28" (100g point, blazer vanes, standard nock)
PSE DNA
28" 55lbs
Velocity: 283.2
GRS/LB: 6.64
FOC: 13.76%
KE: 65.05

Some additional arrows I ran through

Arrow: Beman ICS Hunter Pro 340 cut at 28" (100g point, blazer vanes, standard nock)
PSE DNA
28" 60lbs
Velocity: 284.0
GRS/LB: 6.59
FOC: 12.67
KE: 70.76

Arrow: Beman ICS Hunter Pro 400 cut at 28" (100g point, blazer vanes, standard nock)
PSE DNA
28" 55lbs
Velocity: 279.5
GRS/LB: 6.83
FOC: 13.29
KE: 65.13%

Arrow: Easton FMJ Camo 400 cut at 28" (100g point, blazer vanes, standard nock)
PSE DNA
28" 55lbs
Velocity: 260.3
GRS/LB: 7.79
FOC: 11.08
KE: 64.44

Arrow: Easton FMJ Camo 340
PSE DNA
28" 60lbs
Velocity: 260.8
GRS/LB: 7.65
FOC: 10%
KE 69.31

Please note that my arrow length ranges from 27.5 to 28.5 depending on the broadhead I will be using.

So far it seems like the Easton Bloodline 400 are the winner if I want to stay at 55lbs.

Just for giggles, what does OT2 calculate for IBO for the DNA (1CamX-Hard)?

I was hoping for close to 300fps @55lbs @28" with a 350ish gr arrow. From the data above, 365gr @28" @55lbs is 283fps so I'm assuming the data is all relative and not absolute?

crmoore83
January 3rd, 2013, 07:14 PM
Just for giggles, what does OT2 calculate for IBO for the DNA (1CamX-Hard)?

I was hoping for close to 300fps @55lbs @28" with a 350ish gr arrow. From the data above, 365gr @28" @55lbs is 283fps so I'm assuming the data is all relative and not absolute?

After the update the new 2013 models, my findings have changed.

Ontarget2 list IBO as 344 for the DNA

Also it shows 365 arrow 27.5", @55 and 28" is 277fps even at 60lbs and 28" I have to change to the Bloodline 330's and speed drops 1fps to 276FPS.

@55lbs I have not found a arrow that will get close to 300fps that is still within spine reason

Based off Backyard IBO calculator the only way to 300fps out of 55lbs & 28" is to use a 300gr arrow and nothing higher.

Personally I will hold my final opinion of the bow once I am able to shoot it but currently in no way shape or form impressed what so ever with these numbers, I have had bows in the past set at the same weight and length that are faster and even have a higher let off. Speeds between 55-60lbs are very similar with the only thing requiring different spine arrows.

Depending on the Draw cycle and final performance looks like this bow might be making its way up for sale and I just might return to back to Hoyt

kwaldeier
January 3rd, 2013, 07:16 PM
I was going to say it seemed like the DNA speeds you were telling me were a Tad low. I wasn't going to correct you lol. I calculated the flatline at 7.4gpi 28 28 and 60 was right at 300 according to stickemarchery calculator

kwaldeier
January 3rd, 2013, 07:31 PM
Copied from Karbon's findings -
Speeds on the DNA I just tested...27.5 @ 60.2#
Shooting Chrony Beta5 shot ave, tossed high and low
300grain @ 325fps3
12grain @ 317fps
378grain @ 291fps
392grain @ 286fps
412grain @ 283fps
loaded string with peep and loop too.

crmoore83
January 3rd, 2013, 07:37 PM
I was going to say it seemed like the DNA speeds you were telling me were a Tad low. I wasn't going to correct you lol. I calculated the flatline at 7.4gpi 28 28 and 60 was right at 300 according to stickemarchery calculator

More than welcome to say I was low...I was just going off ontarget which well seems not right. Time will tell. Thanks for your input

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