Hoyt's G3s : protection and repairs

[Duss]

Since I like to keep equipment in good order, I am faced with a bizarre problem.

I have a pair of Hoyt G3s which have lost some of their "varnish" or "coating" where tey touch the riser in the limb pockets due to the repeated impacts when the limbs come and go when the arrow is being released.

I called Hoyt this morning for recommendations and they told me that they do not recommend any sort of protection. More, they even say that I should not put ANYTHING over the affected parts since it will destroy the carbon layer.

I should have thought that anything would have been better than NOTHING at all. OK the original coating may be the super-secret compound that makes the limbs what they are... go guess! :confused:

Now, could anyone of you knowledgeable people recommend a way to optimally protect those vulnerable surfaces? I am sure many users would be delighted to learn about new tricks for keeping their equipment in optimal condition longer.

[Miles Gloriosus]

You mean the little blemishes that develop at the top of the limb pocket? That happens to every pair of limbs.

[Duss]

Yes, if you call "little blemishes" the complete abrasion of the clear varnish layer that is supposed to protect the outside structural layers of the limbs :mad:

I compare that to paint on a car. If the paint layer peels off for any reason one should re-paint the affected part. But in this case Hoy says that there is nothing to do and that I should not attempt to apply any sort of lacquer or varnish or anything.

The original "varnish" certainly did not vanish of its own accord, did it? So there is a cause and there might be a cure... Else I could end up with a case aof abrading the structural layers of the limb, which I would not see as a good sign.

Any suggestions, anyone?

[lykos]

same thing happened to my G3 limbs, the clear coat finish is completely gone in some spots. I had the guys at Proline check out the limbs & I also called Hoyt. unless the actual limb material is damaged, it's only a cosmetic issue

[Miles Gloriosus]

The original "varnish" certainly did not vanish of its own accord, did it? So there is a cause and there might be a cure... Else I could end up with a case aof abrading the structural layers of the limb, which I would not see as a good sign.

lol!!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/NarcissisticMisogynist/64_1.jpg

totally normal

[Duss]

I guess they are waiting until the material is damaged to tell you that you need a new pair of limbs. :confused:

In the case of limbs and risers together one should also mention that even if one is using ILF (International Limb Fitting) limbs in an ILF riser, it does not mean that they will all live together happily forever. I had a friend who had two risers and two sets of limbs. One of each of Win&Win's and Hoyt's he had used either pair of limbs in either riser. They were all fitting well together. The only problem came when the different construction of the limb pockets would cause more "abrasion" of the "varnished" surfaces. He then decided not to mix the makes as before.

I do believe in Hoyt's products, but their attitude on that subject sometimes goes against common sense. I hope they did not provide anything critical for the Space Shuttle! :sad:

[x1440]

Another problem to look out for especially when mixing W&W limbs with non W&W risers is that the black support plate on the belly of the bow (the side that touches the limb pocket bolt, not the riser) separates a little bit if you look at the sides of the limbs.

This was a pretty wide spread problem with the old Winact limbs. No one really noticed it, but W&W knew about it and did replace many limbs in Korea while I was training there one summer. I even had mine replaced.

If you have older W&W Winact or even PSE's Elite (rebadged Winact limbs), look at the sides of the limbs and look closely at the support plates for separation. I'll try to post a pic later.

[Duss]

Another problem to look out for especially when mixing W&W limbs with non W&W risers is that the black support plate on the belly of the bow (the side that touches the limb pocket bolt, not the riser) separates a little bit if you look at the sides of the limbs.

This was a pretty wide spread problem with the old Winact limbs. No one really noticed it, but W&W knew about it and did replace many limbs in Korea while I was training there one summer. I even had mine replaced.

If you have older W&W Winact or even PSE's Elite (rebadged Winact limbs), look at the sides of the limbs and look closely at the support plates for separation. I'll try to post a pic later.

THAT is a good corporate attitude!

[Duss]

Since I like to keep equipment in good order, I am faced with a bizarre problem.

I have a pair of Hoyt G3s which have lost some of their "varnish" or "coating" where tey touch the riser in the limb pockets due to the repeated impacts when the limbs come and go when the arrow is being released.

I called Hoyt this morning for recommendations and they told me that they do not recommend any sort of protection. More, they even say that I should not put ANYTHING over the affected parts since it will destroy the carbon layer.

I should have thought that anything would have been better than NOTHING at all. OK the original coating may be the super-secret compound that makes the limbs what they are... go guess! :confused:

Now, could anyone of you knowledgeable people recommend a way to optimally protect those vulnerable surfaces? I am sure many users would be delighted to learn about new tricks for keeping their equipment in optimal condition longer.

I kept asking around about that abrasion and clear coating removal. I decided to call Hoyt again and I finally got directed to someone who KNOWS. A thousand thanks to that person :tongue:

The final word is that one could put some clear good quality nail polish or non-baked car paint or urethane paint to repair the affected areas.

One could also prevent that sort of problems by using 3M urethane anti-abrasion film over the problem areas. That film is found in car shops and is being used on the front of car hoods for protection against flying debris. It is very thin and it also has dampening properties (soft urethane) so it tends to reduce noise.

In conclusion, companies only are as good as the people you happen to be talking to. My excuses to Hoyt for my previous comments in this thread yet in regard to the responses I had gotten the first times my comments were then were well-justified :wink:

[Jim C]

lol!!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/NarcissisticMisogynist/64_1.jpg

totally normal


yep, have at least a dozen set of hoyt limbs-all look like that

[Eolla]

At least your G3's only wore in non visible areas, my M1's began peeling at the tips and in the string groove as well as the limb pockets

[Miles Gloriosus]

Also pretty normal as limbs get on in years. My PBs are with a pair of Vectors with tons of spots in the finish, it doesn't make a difference.