"Clicking" limbs or risers

[Viper1]

Guys -

Every now and then I put a bow together and hear a light (metalic-like) clicking sound during the draw. Typically with aluminum risers such as the Aerotec or old Radians and either Carbon OR wood core limbs. The "click" can happen during any part of the draw, and CANNOT be reproduced on call. Pretty much happens when and if it feels like. The bows shoot well and I can't find the cause. I realize the sound can be transmitted from another part of the bow, but if I had to guess, I'd say it was from the ILF socket.

So, anyone have a similar experience, know what the cause is/how to correct it or more importantly, is it anything to worry about???

Thanks

Viper1 out.

[SBills]

I had a grip that clicked once as I drew. A bit of silicone under it did the trick and fixed it up. Haven't had it happen from the limb to riser interface (yet).

[massman]

Upon the first draw of the bow and or the first shot. Sometimes (the Hoyt GM in notorious) the limb will not seat correctly and needs to be re-seated once the bow is strung. You can do this my placing the lower limb on your foot. Place a hand on the top/back of the riser and the flex the top limb (at the tip,recurve) forward. This will reseat the top limb. Flip the bow over and repeat the process on the other limb. If not done. Most times the first shot will be quite loud as the limbs reseat.

Regards,

Tom

[Viper1]

Scott -

Checked the grip early on, screws are tight and the grip is seated. That I could live with!

Mass -

Oddly enough my GMs don't show that that problem. Also, you'd think after a few dozen shots, the thing would be seated, but I did try reseating.

Thanks guys, the wierd thing is that it is a very "light and sharp"" sounding click.

It's happen on a few bows, so it's not an isolated incident.

Viper1 out.

[Paradoxical Cat]

Scott -

Checked the grip early on, screws are tight and the grip is seated. That I could live with!

Mass -

Oddly enough my GMs don't show that that problem. Also, you'd think after a few dozen shots, the thing would be seated, but I did try reseating.

Thanks guys, the wierd thing is that it is a very "light and sharp"" sounding click.

It's happen on a few bows, so it's not an isolated incident.

Viper1 out.

Viper--

Are the bows on which this is occuring the ones with the Hoyt Hardlock System? Have you checked to make sure that the dowel (for lack of a better word) is tight? My Helix was making a little noise and it was due to the hardlock being loose (and in one case, misoriented) causing the limb to reseat.

Alternatively, have you checked the limbs for failure at the dovetail?

PC-

[Duss]

Viper1

You say you experienced it on more than one bow?

Perhaps it is your wrist that makes the "click" :confused:

Seriously, does it depend on the position of the limbpockets, like fully in, fully out or somewhere in the middle? In the top part of the bow, or in the lower part? Or both?

I have heard that sort of "click" on my Avalon Plus riser with PSE Zone limbs. It can happen almost anytime, but mostly after some period of time of leaving the bow doing nothing for a few minutes.

Next week or sunday night I will be installing and testing G3 limbs, but Iwill have put urethane abrasion-resistant film over the front and back contact areas. I will also check for that clik. I will then add the same urethane film to the PSEs and re-check for the "clicks". That would then leave the U-slot as the culprit if it still makes that "clicking" noise.

I shall be testing in the different positions since I will have to get the feel for the G3s

[Boltsmyth]

Had a similar experience... was hearing a click before the clicker went off. Turned out one limb had delaminated at the base and the layers sometimes shifted during the draw. Check the base of your limbs. Hope this is not your problem.

[Viper1]

Duss -

I beleive the Aerotec has the "hardlock" system, but the Radians (two of them) certainly don't or at least were made before Hoyt started touting it ;). The "lock nuts" are tight (but I don't "over tigthen them). But I my gut tells me you're on the right track, the limbs show no sign of failure (but naturally thats what I'm worried about!!!).

No, my bones make a totally different sound :eek:

On one Radian, seems to be worse ( clicks more often and louder) as I turned the limbs bolts down (increasing the weight). Due to the possibility of sound transmission I can't say for sure where the sound is coming from, but the pockets are the most likely suspect and my gut also makes me think about the "U" slot on the limbs. I was thinking about a coat of string wax over the "U" slots to act a lubricant just to see if there's any difference.

Todate, I've had it with 1 Aerotec, 2 Radians and at least two pair of limbs. Yes changing limbs on the given risers seems to cure the problem as does the same limbs on a different riser. That's why I'm thinking of a possible "mis-match" or poor tolerances???

Thanks again,

Viper1 out.

[Paradoxical Cat]

Duss -

I beleive the Aerotec has the "hardlock" system, but the Radians (two of them) certainly don't or at least were made before Hoyt started touting it ;). The "lock nuts" are tight (but I don't "over tigthen them). But I my gut tells me you're on the right track, the limbs show no sign of failure (but naturally thats what I'm worried about!!!).

On one Radian, seems to be worse ( clicks more often and louder) as I turned the limbs bolts down (increasing the weight). Due to the possibility of sound transmission I can't say for sure where the sound is coming from, but the pockets are the most likely suspect and my gut also makes me think about the "U" slot on the limbs. I was thinking about a coat of string wax over the "U" slots to act a lubricant just to see if there's any difference.

Todate, I've had it with 1 Aerotec, 2 Radians and at least two pair of limbs. Yes changing limbs on the given risers seems to cure the problem as does the same limbs on a different riser. That's why I'm thinking of a possible "mis-match" or poor tolerances???

Thanks again,

Viper1 out.

Viper,

What about the spring-loaded pin on the dovetail? Are they moving smoothly or are they sticking? The increase of weight would shift the angle of pressure on the pin slightly, and if there is play in the dovetail-slot it might cause the pin to shift, bind, and then release as you draw.

If its the U-Slot however, I think the problem might actually be in the limb-bolts. Either they are shifting or worse, but I'd have expected a critical failure by now.

PC-