View Full Version : For indoor shooting at 20yds what vanes do you use?
menaztricks
September 19th, 2006, 04:37 AM
I just got some 2" blazers and some 1.5" blazers that I'm going to be fletching soon. I want to get some other vanes to experiment with. For indoor shooting, is the size and shape of the vane that important or just a personal preference?
spatan
September 19th, 2006, 05:03 AM
Depends on what wieght you require. if your sharfts are light and you need to get your speed down. then slightly bigger vanes. these how ever damage or get tatty quicker as there is more of them to come into contact with other arrows.1.5", 2"and 3" look pretty on sharfts together with some sexy wrapes.
I am using 3" vanes on 570-14 Beamans while I wait for some line jammers.
Stay stronge, shoot straight.
Spatan:cocktail:
Valkyrie
September 19th, 2006, 07:36 AM
3" feathers
Dave T
September 19th, 2006, 08:27 AM
I shoot 4.18" Flex-Fletch vanes on X7s as they hold up much better than the 4" feathers I started out with.
Dave
baldmountain
September 19th, 2006, 08:29 AM
If your bow is tuned properly you don't need vanes/feathers at all. The only reason to add them is for those times when your release is less than perfect and you need a bit more stability. To be honest I don't think it matters what vanes you use so choose the ones that you feel are best.
Having said that I'm going to shoot 3" Flex-Fletch vanes on my compound arrows and 2" Flex-Fletch vanes on my recurve arrows.
bsu_beginner
September 19th, 2006, 09:38 AM
at 20 yards? I use 4 inch blazer feathers with a 1 degree offset and a right clamp helical.
hkim823
September 19th, 2006, 11:05 AM
On big fat aluminum, I'd say the biggest fattest feathers you can find helically fletched. I agree with baldy to some extent, if your tuned in, fletching isn't a major concern indoors. But if your slightly off, looking for the fastest way to stabilize your arrow flight indoors would be what I'm looking for.
hoytmag05
September 19th, 2006, 11:56 AM
i am experimenting with 3" vanetec vmax's and 3" vanetec superspines on my 2314 x7's. i think i am leaning towards the vmax's
KenL
September 19th, 2006, 05:53 PM
Has anybody tried the Quick-Spins? I shoot a three or five spot target so I'm not concerned with durability.
baldmountain
September 19th, 2006, 07:19 PM
Yes, I have. They get the arrow spinning quickly and stabilize the arrow fast. I liked them and most other people who tried them seem to like them too.
I do have some arrows fletched with quickspins but I'm not shooting a bow they will match up with so I'm sticking with flex-fletch vanes this season...
redneckarcher29
September 20th, 2006, 08:45 AM
put 2 inch blazers on a 2314 shaft? or would this just be dumb? thanks guys
Jim C
September 20th, 2006, 08:58 AM
2114-4 inch with a healthy amount of helical
ACC-3 Inch feathers-Arizona EZ fletch right helical
ACE--use my field arrows with 1.87 FF shield cut
probably use the ACC this winter-cheaper than the ACE-almost as much speed though.
Found the AC arrows more forgiving even though you don't get as many line cutters-agree with Vittorio/Michele's findings in HERETIC ARCHER
Perfectionist
September 21st, 2006, 11:02 AM
For indoors, I prefer to use 5" feathers.
CHPro
September 21st, 2006, 01:23 PM
KenL,
I've used the 4" QuickSpins on 2512's and the 2.25" QuickSpins on 2312's and Easton Fat Boys. Both worked fine and are probably what I'll be using again this year.
I've also used 4" feathers on 2512's, 2" Flex Fletch vanes on 1914's and 2014's (compound), 5" AAE vanes on 2512's and 4" feathers on 1914's (recurve). All have worked equally well, although I found I had to be a little more careful about transporting the arrows with AAE vanes (i.e. couldn't leave them in the quiver and quiver laying on its side for any length of time because the vanes would disfigure/warp).
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KenL
September 21st, 2006, 07:25 PM
For indoor I'm using 2.3" Duravane 3D's on 2512's. You know......I really don't think it makes a difference. A good shot is a good shot. I don't think vanes are going to fix a bad shot. That being said I think I'm gonna try Flex Fletch or Spin Vanes........:heh:
Dado
September 22nd, 2006, 01:22 PM
As advized from Michigander (a famous arrow-smith here on AT), I went for 4'' Bohning Low Profile vanes (LP as a precaution because I'm using a shoot-thru system). He also suggested less helical fletching for this (stiffer) vanes, as he said the stiffer ones don't like too much helical in them for indoor shooting. In any case, I got both clamps for my Bitz, and I'll experiment with the straight one and see what happens.
The cool thing is that he had a 100-pack of discontinued color, transparent, ones :D I ordered some bohning clear nocks as well, to match the vanes :)
menaztricks
September 23rd, 2006, 02:07 AM
Seems like most of you guys are shooting vanes longer than 2" If thats the case for most indoor target shooters, why does bohning advertise the mini blazers for target use?
bownutty
September 23rd, 2006, 08:34 AM
At 20 yards the 2" Blazers will work fine indoors on whatever you put them on IMO. If shooting longer distances outside, I would go smaller. The 2"ers slow the arrow down fast after 50 yards.
trophyplum
September 23rd, 2006, 08:41 AM
I shoot mini blazers on GoldTip 30x arrows and shoot 55-60X consistently.
Dado
September 23rd, 2006, 09:12 AM
Seems like most of you guys are shooting vanes longer than 2" If thats the case for most indoor target shooters, why does bohning advertise the mini blazers for target use?
Maybe they are refering to Outdoor shooting with mini-blazers?
bsu_beginner
September 23rd, 2006, 09:46 AM
another question to ask: how does everyone set their jigs when fletching their arrows?
calbowdude
September 23rd, 2006, 10:10 AM
probably use the ACC this winter-cheaper than the ACE-almost as much speed though.
Found the AC arrows more forgiving even though you don't get as many line cutters-agree with Vittorio/Michele's findings in HERETIC ARCHER[/QUOTE]
Jim,
That's interesting. I wonder if the forgiveness of carbon extends to fatboys and hippos.
For my fletching setup, 3" flex fletch @ 2 degrees right on Hippos.
menaztricks
September 23rd, 2006, 02:36 PM
I seem to have misplaced a post, I was 100% sure I had replied to this but itsnot here. Hopefully I didntpost it on some other random thread :embara:.
So what I thought I had said is:
If I'm understanding correctly, for indoor use, bigger vanes are preferred in order to stabilize the arrow sooner. For outdoor and longer distances, you want small vanes so there is less drag which would decrease the speed of the arrow too soon.
AT_X_HUNTER
September 23rd, 2006, 02:59 PM
2.25" quickspins on GT 30X's, X-Cutters, CX Linejammers, and GT22's. If you haven't guessed already I like quick spins.
Marcus
September 24th, 2006, 08:11 AM
I like the 2.25" Quickspins on my 2315's however have tested around 6 different brands and sizes of vanes from 1.6" to 5" and have found no difference between them.
Pick what looks best.
amuraro
September 24th, 2006, 08:24 AM
3" vanetec superspines, very resistant and precision.:)
baldmountain
September 24th, 2006, 02:29 PM
Shooting indoors at 20 yards/18 meters you can shoot pretty much any vane/feather combination that makes you happy. I've seen folks shoot 5 or 6 5" feathers indoors. Personally I feel that three 3 or 4" vanes or feathers are good.
On the other hand outdoors where you are shooting 70 or even 90 meters you need to use a pretty small vane or spinwing. A 3" feater or vane will slow the arrow so much at 70 meters that the arrow will look like it is falling vertically. Even 2" quickspin vanes slow an arrow too much to be used at 90 meters. That is why most folks use 1.87 Flex-Fletch vanes or spin wings, outdoors. It is the best compromise between stabilization and drag.
Chopper94
September 25th, 2006, 03:30 PM
For indoor and shooting at multiple faces I shoot the Quick Spins. I use the 4" on my big old 2613s and use the 1.5" on my Fatboy 500s. They work great for indoor shooting. I would not recommend them beyond 50yds and for any outdoor event that has a lot of arrows going to the same spot like a Field or Target round.
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