Hoyt 2008 Release

[Big Daddy POP]

One year ago to the day I asked the following question for 2007:

Does anyone have the skiddily diddily on the new Hoyt lineup?

Some said we would not have an answer until the end of Oct. or first part of Nov. 2007. They were wrong. So if you have any skiddily diddily spill it. We are all waiting. Main guess, changes to the elite line ................

What say you?

[tcooll77]

im seeing a little thiner lighter riser...but you dont want the bow too light...look at the drenalin :)

[3DBIGBULLX]

I think they will go more radical, in cam, riser design, and limb parrallility (thats a bowhuntin word) lol
I think lighter for sure!

[plottman]

i am guessing they may suprise us....they are due for a shocker.

the bridge riser/cam 1.5 is a few years old

[Smooch]

My dealer told me he was talking to the Hoyt rep. a couple weeks ago, and he told him that they were coming out with something real fast, like 25 fps faster than the Vulcan. He said the rep. was really excited about this new bow.

[DanDaMan]

My dealer told me he was talking to the Hoyt rep. a couple weeks ago, and he told him that they were coming out with something real fast, like 25 fps faster than the Vulcan. He said the rep. was really excited about this new bow.


I heard something like this also. Not the 25fps faster, just a faster version of the Vulcan. But a 350 IBO would be nice, bout it will come from Hoyt for a few years.
Dan

[danslaugenhoup]

I hope your right. Last Hoyt I owned was a Rambo. I would like to try one again.

[sneak1413]

i haven't heard much on the hoyt but i heard bowtech is coming out with a bow that will blow the top off the x-force in the speed category and with a 7inch brace height to boot. i hope so cuz my midget arms need something that can push these hunting arrows of mine a bit closer to the 280 to 300 fps mark. speeds i heard were 370 and 380. i wish hoyt could come out with a faster bow with a 7 inch brace height. i like the bows but to get the speed out of them they shorten their brace height up. not that i can't shoot them but i just feel more comfortable with the 7 to 7.5 bh. im really looking forward to shooting all the 2008 line up cuz i need a naildriver of a speed bow now that im out west farther and gonna have to be flingin some arrows a ways next year.

[RT1]

im seeing a little thiner lighter riser...but you dont want the bow too light...look at the drenalin :)


your right just look at it. It's the best bow out there.....again

[HoytFlinger]

i haven't heard much on the hoyt but i heard bowtech is coming out with a bow that will blow the top off the x-force in the speed category and with a 7inch brace height to boot. i hope so cuz my midget arms need something that can push these hunting arrows of mine a bit closer to the 280 to 300 fps mark. speeds i heard were 370 and 380. i wish hoyt could come out with a faster bow with a 7 inch brace height. i like the bows but to get the speed out of them they shorten their brace height up. not that i can't shoot them but i just feel more comfortable with the 7 to 7.5 bh. im really looking forward to shooting all the 2008 line up cuz i need a naildriver of a speed bow now that im out west farther and gonna have to be flingin some arrows a ways next year.

370 and 380 fps? We just saw 350 this year. I don't see 370-380 for a few more years at least.

[thespyhunter]

your right just look at it. It's the best bow out there.....again

Yeah, if you like bows that ring out in your hand like a tuning fork :rolleyes:

[sneak1413]

370 and 380 fps? We just saw 350 this year. I don't see 370-380 for a few more years at least.

bowtech had the black knight that hit 340 350 3 years ago and they have been working on this one ever since then. thats what i heard at least. i heard it had some hand shock that they were trying to get out of it but they thought about releasing it mid year this year because the x-force was so big.

[RT1]

Yeah, if you like bows that ring out in your hand like a tuning fork :rolleyes:


Yeah, or weigh 5lbs.

a tuning fork, that was good. I would put the tuning fork with the martin bengal.

It does vibrate a bit more. the xt is the best ever from mathews still.

[thespyhunter]

Yeah, or weigh 5lbs.

a tuning fork, that was good. I would put the tuning fork with the martin bengal.

It does vibrate a bit more. the xt is the best ever from mathews still.

I have never shot an XT. The Drenalin is the only Mathews I have ever shot. I shot it against a Guardian, X-Force , Vectrix , Vulcan , and a Cardiac.
Of all of those bows , after the shot with bow just sitting in my hand, the Drenalin felt like a tuning fork. I was very surprised, especially with all the rubber/brass things all over it.
Besides, I like a little weight in my hand :)

[viperarcher]

I was a little sceptical about the vulcan because of the short brace height and the short axle to axle, but after shooting this sweet thing it put all my fears aside, smooth as silk , very fast, hits Hard and shoots as accurate! and as forgiving as any 7 or 7.5 brace height bow I have ever shot! I don't know how they did it but they did! what is the purpose of having all that speed and you can't handle it or its unmanagable? faster does not mean better!

[Supershark]

Remodeled Spiral cam to fit a New Hoyt Turbo-Elite! :wink:





I have dreams too :o

[Big Daddy POP]

I have never shot an XT. The Drenalin is the only Mathews I have ever shot. I shot it against a Guardian, X-Force , Vectrix , Vulcan , and a Cardiac.
Of all of those bows , after the shot with bow just sitting in my hand, the Drenalin felt like a tuning fork. I was very surprised, especially with all the rubber/brass things all over it.
Besides, I like a little weight in my hand :)

I second that motion. I add weight on purpose to my hoyts. They do not move around as much and settle in on target straight away. Look at all the 3d and target pros. The all like a little weight in there hands.

:darkbeer::):cocktail::confused::pukey:

[muzzleblast42]

I was planning on getting a new vulcan in the 3d color black. But now that I have heard about what might be I think I will wait a few more months. And I to like a little more weight in my bow. The vulcan just sets there after I shoot and it is very stable when I brace for a shot.

[HC Archery]

Do not get your hopes up on any speculation you hear.

You simply will Not know until you see the 08' catalog. Simple as that.

But..... we are talking only a short time until we see them!!!!! :tongue::tongue::tongue:

I have a request...... how about a bow that is simply quieter and lower vibration than any other bow. Simple.

Also.... a 355 - 360 IBo bow would be hot. To say the least. Especially if it had a easier draw cycle than the X-Force.

How about a 1 cam? Have had customer mention this. I love hybrids. But...... many want a one cam, ya know?


:cocktail:

[keyman]

how about putting more threades holes on the back and side of the riser so it is easier to add weights where we want them.

[ex-wolverine]

I was planning on getting a new vulcan in the 3d color black. But now that I have heard about what might be I think I will wait a few more months. And I to like a little more weight in my bow. The vulcan just sets there after I shoot and it is very stable when I brace for a shot.

Mine Shoots CXL2 maximas like a dream

[ex-wolverine]

how about putting more threades holes on the back and side of the riser so it is easier to add weights where we want them.

Great Idea

[Po_Boy]

I have never shot an XT. The Drenalin is the only Mathews I have ever shot. I shot it against a Guardian, X-Force , Vectrix , Vulcan , and a Cardiac.
Of all of those bows , after the shot with bow just sitting in my hand, the Drenalin felt like a tuning fork. I was very surprised, especially with all the rubber/brass things all over it.
Besides, I like a little weight in my hand :)

I have shot the Switchback, the SB XT and the Drenalin and the XT was the best feeling IMO (as far as Mathews goes). The one thing I can't stand about any mathews is that gawd awful so-big-it-could-choke-a-mule grip they throw on that thing. Every time I shoot one I just want to take a chainsaw to the grip and then shoot off the riser.

As far as hoyt goes I would like to see something besides a tec riser. Yes, I like for my bows to have some weight to them but I like to decide where it goes with my stabilizers, not an extra hunk of metal hanging off of it.

[muzzleblast42]

Mine Shoots CXL2 maximas like a dream

Nice set-ups. Something about that black and chrome is wicked. I do believe I just might go out to the pro shop on sat and order a new one.

[Big Daddy POP]

Mine Shoots CXL2 maximas like a dream

Those are two fine looking Ladies..............

[ex-wolverine]

Those are two fine looking Ladies..............

They shoot so good..I can wear heavy clothes , leafy wear and that short brace height dont even come into play...

Hoyt did a great job this year:thumbs_up

[Big Daddy POP]

I have shot the Switchback, the SB XT and the Drenalin and the XT was the best feeling IMO (as far as Mathews goes). The one thing I can't stand about any mathews is that gawd awful so-big-it-could-choke-a-mule grip they throw on that thing. Every time I shoot one I just want to take a chainsaw to the grip and then shoot off the riser.

As far as hoyt goes I would like to see something besides a tec riser. Yes, I like for my bows to have some weight to them but I like to decide where it goes with my stabilizers, not an extra hunk of metal hanging off of it.

You are not likely to see any elimination to the Tec or Advanced Tec Risers any time soon. Hoyt has too much invested in that design and having owned and shot just about everything over the years it seems that investment was well worth it. If anything, what other manufacturer's try something different with their risers, Bowtech for example to differential themselves from the rest of the market. I would not be suprised to see an expandsion of some of the elite series bows to see one or two more bad boys in that line introduced. It will be interesting to see that is for sure!

:darkbeer::):cocktail::confused::pukey:

[Big Daddy POP]

Czecheiko broke the news first last year on October 13, 2007 with the skinny on the new line up. Who will be first this year?

:darkbeer:

[Supershark]

I dont know but it would be nice if he would break it again. NOW!:sad:

[djmaxwe]

I know Czecheiko and if he says that it is going to happen you can bet your life it will and don't de suprised if doesn't do it again this year but right know everything is a hopefull quess.

[djmaxwe]

What camo do you think they will go with this year, Reflex is APG and Mathews dropped Realtree or that is the rumor. If Mathews dropped Realtree I think they will go with AP so they won't be the same as Reflex.

[3DBIGBULLX]

Turbine Elite
34.5" ATA w/ Parallel limbs
Spiral/Vector Cam hybrid
7" BH
Elite riser with XT 500 Limbs
340+ IBO

Maybe Realtree Max 1 Camo?

[thespyhunter]

I have got a Vectrix and a '06 Protec XT2000 with Spirals.
The Vectrix could be improved on with a much softer stopper on the StealthShot. The current one sux, IMO. I love the Vector cams, and I also love the Spirals. Unless there is a significant improvement this next year, I will most likely stay with these two bows. They are both pretty sweet. BUT, you never know~ the '08's could make it impossible to not have a new one :tongue:

[viperarcher]

even if you get to see the new bows in a few months they will not be available until january!

[thespyhunter]

even if you get to see the new bows in a few months they will not be available until january!

Not neccesarily so......... I am pretty sure my dealer usually has them on the rack by mid November, early December at the latest.

[redman]

the new hoyt -------------- will be 375 ibo

[archerykid12]

the new hoyt -------------- will be 375 ibo

ya watever not saying it cant heppen just saying it probably wont

[jkeiffer]

the PSE pro series bows have holes near the limbs to add weight were you want it, I think the Mojo, and Xforce both maybe even the AR's, I am not trying to hijack this thread just saying.

Later
Jkeiffer

[3DBIGBULLX]

I have got a Vectrix and a '06 Protec XT2000 with Spirals.
The Vectrix could be improved on with a much softer stopper on the StealthShot. The current one sux, IMO. I love the Vector cams, and I also love the Spirals. Unless there is a significant improvement this next year, I will most likely stay with these two bows. They are both pretty sweet. BUT, you never know~ the '08's could make it impossible to not have a new one :tongue:

Good point, took mine off and gained 12 fps......thats also where alot of the "slap" noise comes from!

[ex-wolverine]

even if you get to see the new bows in a few months they will not be available until january!

Thats pretty Quick

[viperarcher]

I know that the vulcan will be around for awhile and its a sweet bow!

[Mike from Texas]

I hear through the grapevine that it is going to be smokin' fast, faster than anything currently available on the market.

[Big Daddy POP]

I hear through the grapevine that it is going to be smokin' fast, faster than anything currently available on the market.

Did you hear is there a change to the cam system to increase speed? Any clue on innovations?

:darkbeer::):cocktail::confused::pukey:

[WidowMaker]

I just want the ultratec back. Maybey 10fps faster. That is all. Nothing more.

[2wyoming]

the only thing ive heard, was about a new 38 inch bow.
I cant wait ;)

[eshorebwhntr]

I have shot the Switchback, the SB XT and the Drenalin and the XT was the best feeling IMO (as far as Mathews goes). The one thing I can't stand about any mathews is that gawd awful so-big-it-could-choke-a-mule grip they throw on that thing. Every time I shoot one I just want to take a chainsaw to the grip and then shoot off the riser.

As far as hoyt goes I would like to see something besides a tec riser. Yes, I like for my bows to have some weight to them but I like to decide where it goes with my stabilizers, not an extra hunk of metal hanging off of it.

i think that there is more to the tec riser than just weight.....in fact i plan to reasearch and test this theory next semester for my senior engineering project....most likely going to test hooke's law (spring constant) and try to relate potential KE vs translational KE and compare that to riser designs and cam designs.....working on the plan of action and testing procedure right now with my professor.....look for a post sometime next spring.....hopefully

[thespyhunter]

i think that there is more to the tec riser than just weight.....in fact i plan to reasearch and test this theory next semester for my senior engineering project....most likely going to test hooke's law (spring constant) and try to relate potential KE vs translational KE and compare that to riser designs and cam designs.....working on the plan of action and testing procedure right now with my professor.....look for a post sometime next spring.....hopefully


I agree, The TEC risers are designed that way for a reason.

[wihunter402]

I think the TEC riser is what makes the bow so shootable for me. I can shoot a Hoyt better then any other "regular" bow out there. I will still be trying as many as I can but unless someone comes out with something I can shoot better I will be getting a new '08 Hoyt next year.

[Oldhat]

New cam1/2 :):)

4 new bows one like old ultatec and a lot lighter maybe called 737 ????

watch this space

[tek]

New cam1/2 :):)

4 new bows one like old ultatec and a lot lighter maybe called 737 ????

watch this space

For some strange reason, I think you are very close :wink:

[Big Daddy POP]

New cam1/2 :):)

4 new bows one like old ultatec and a lot lighter maybe called 737 ????

watch this space

Last year the new broke around the 10/13. Can we beat that date this year?

[Boludo]

My sources also say the same thing - hoyt bows went on a diet and lost some weight.

[goatranch]

Well I heard the new Hoyt would be 600fps. If it is I'm buying one.:eek:

[scott_r]

I was talking to a dealer in a dark alley and he whispered they have a 450 fps bow comming out :darkbeer: Quiet, zero hand shock, and the most kinetic energy anybow has ever had. One pin out to 100 yards!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[WidowMaker]

A bow that fast would be too hard to shoot.

[Irishrobin]

Well I heard the new Hoyt would be 600fps. If it is I'm buying one.:eek:

:icon_1_lol::icon_1_lol:

[viperarcher]

are you guys for real? Do you really believe that a bow shooting 450fps could be managable for an average archer? Do you think that the bows could hold up under this speed?

[czecheiko]

New bow (name), New cam:wink:

36" ATA, 7.5" BH, 320 fps:wink:

[Lost_Viking]

Any info on the elites?

[Biggamehunter73]

Who knows..... there was "talk" that Hoyt was going to modify the the 38 Pro/38 Ultra riser into an "elite style". We will just have to wait and see :zip:

[ohio36hunter]

a pro staff shooter for bowtech told this to me this past sunday.he said the new hoyts will all have harmonic dampeners and have the option to have a solid limb this year,man things are just getting better for hoyt.lol

[Smooch]

Who knows..... there was "talk" that Hoyt was going to modify the the 38 Pro/38 Ultra riser into an "elite style". We will just have to wait and see :zip:

Yeah, and I'll bet they will call them the Ultra Elite and Pro Elite. :confused:

[die-languh]

38 ultra elite doenst sound that bad :wink:

[HartShot]

a pro staff shooter for bowtech told this to me this past sunday.he said the new hoyts will all have harmonic dampeners and have the option to have a solid limb this year,man things are just getting better for hoyt.lol


:ROFLMAO:

[tek]

New bow (name), New cam:wink:

36" ATA, 7.5" BH, 320 fps:wink:

Now who believes me. New bow, new cam :wink:

33" ata 6" bh 330 fps

[Big Daddy POP]

New bow (name), New cam:wink:

36" ATA, 7.5" BH, 320 fps:wink:

You broke the news last year on my post so I know you know what you are talking about.

Give us more!

:darkbeer::wink::cocktail::confused::pukey:

[Big Daddy POP]

your right just look at it. It's the best bow out there.....again

NOT!

[thespyhunter]

New bow (name), New cam:wink:

36" ATA, 7.5" BH, 320 fps:wink:


I believe you ~ I heard something too :zip:

[BOWGOD]

i want nothing more than to see the return of the ultra and protec and spiral cams. the 07 release broke my heart hopefully the 08 release will make me feel better. if anything the 07's saved me a ton of money i ussually by at least 3 new bows a year i didn't buy any new ones this year, i bought a used protec to replace the one i sold, other than that i spent my money elsewhere.

[czecheiko]

Now who believes me. New bow, new cam :wink:

33" ata 6" bh 330 fps


I believe this to be accurate as well:zip:

[3DBIGBULLX]

I believe this to be accurate as well:zip:

Ohh, cmon dude, you know more :) Little spec insight on this years hunting bow......loved the Vectrix, but gotta know whats gonna be filling the shoes :)

[j3dgu]

http://3dshoots.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8869:darkbeer:

CHeck out the link guys

[eshorebwhntr]

i want nothing more than to see the return of the ultra and protec and spiral cams. the 07 release broke my heart hopefully the 08 release will make me feel better. if anything the 07's saved me a ton of money i ussually by at least 3 new bows a year i didn't buy any new ones this year, i bought a used protec to replace the one i sold, other than that i spent my money elsewhere.

i second the return of the protec and ultratec with the spirals....minus the black limb pockets and cams....if they go to a solid limb and harmonic dampers they should just call a truse and merge with mathews....and if that happens i'll go back to a martin

[steve_T]

Yeah, or weigh 5lbs.

a tuning fork, that was good. I would put the tuning fork with the martin bengal.

It does vibrate a bit more. the xt is the best ever from mathews still.


my bowtech is lighter than ur drenalin.

but all guys cant use the short draw so that sucks for them lol.

[-bowfreak-]

New bow (name), New cam:wink:

36" ATA, 7.5" BH, 320 fps:wink:

Parallel limbs?

[HotLZ]

physical bow weights and available draw lengths for each model?

[Marcus]

my bowtech is lighter than ur drenalin.

but all guys cant use the short draw so that sucks for them lol.

That's OK, the 2007 Allegiance is identical to the Equalizer except for the cam size.

[Big Daddy POP]

Here are the specs on the new bows.

New Bow, New Cam, 33" axle, 6" brace, 330 IBO
New Bow, New Cam, 36" axle, 7.5" brace, 320 IBO
New Bow, New modular cam, 36" axle, 7.5" brace, 307 IBO
New Bow, New modular cam, 28" Axle, 7" brace, 284 IBO (youth)

From the post above............

[tcooll77]

if those specs are true...im willing to bet top dollar ill be buying the second one down :)

[wihunter402]

Well with those specs I will be looking at that top 2 from Hoyt this year.

[2wyoming]

There is also going to be a 38 ata bow coming out.
It will probably be an upgrade from the 38 ultra and pro.

Cant wait to see what it is.!

[jamesaf2870]

I can verify the specs on the new bows are right got them 3 days ago.

[wihunter402]

There is also going to be a 38 ata bow coming out.
It will probably be an upgrade from the 38 ultra and pro.

Cant wait to see what it is.!

That would be great too. I shot the 38 pro, vectrix and vulcan. All shoot great and I wish I could own all. I like the thought of having the little longer bow for most hunting but...... I did buy a DB Matrix this year and I can see I will be hunting out of it more. So the 33 ATA is looking the best for that. If I could only have 2 new bows. I am also going to wait this year a little bit and see what else comes out from the other companies. Should be a good year all around.
Maybe in the mean time I will win the lottery.:RockOn:

[wihunter402]

I can verify the specs on the new bows are right got them 3 days ago.

Thanks. Now what else did you get 3 days ago. Please share.:tongue:

[Big Daddy POP]

I can verify the specs on the new bows are right got them 3 days ago.

What are you waiting for Sir? :tongue: We are dying over here...............

PICTURES, PICTURES, PICTURES, PICTURES, PICTURES......................................plea se?

[archer109]

When can a person order a new one?

[Boludo]

Here are the specs on the new bows.

New Bow, New Cam, 33" axle, 6" brace, 330 IBO
New Bow, New Cam, 36" axle, 7.5" brace, 320 IBO
New Bow, New modular cam, 36" axle, 7.5" brace, 307 IBO
New Bow, New modular cam, 28" Axle, 7" brace, 284 IBO (youth)

From the post above............


So it looks like the Vulcan and the Vectrix XL + 5 fps, and probably lighter. Nothing ground breaking, it sounds like, but I'll buy one anyway. :D

[smitty72]

Any names of the new bows?

[Big Daddy POP]

Here are the specs on the new bows.

New Bow, New Cam, 33" axle, 6" brace, 330 IBO
New Bow, New Cam, 36" axle, 7.5" brace, 320 IBO
New Bow, New modular cam, 36" axle, 7.5" brace, 307 IBO
New Bow, New modular cam, 28" Axle, 7" brace, 284 IBO (youth)

From the post above............

Perhpas the 3rd bow is the 38 inch looking at the IBO speeds?

[bowhuntin_KS]

Who all would kill for a hoyt bow 33-34" ATA 7" brace hight with ibo 344-350+...I know i'd have to have one

[Supershark]

I dont know if I would kill to get it, but this post definately has my attention again.


:cry:so I guess there is no Turbo Elite coming out this year:cry:

[tek]

Perhpas the 3rd bow is the 38 inch looking at the IBO speeds?

Not a typo :)

[outback jack]

I'm just sitting on go:moped_mazeguy: for them to come out with the new line. I sold my outback about a month ago to get a comp. bow but who knows what I'll end up with when the new line comes out:dontknow:

[Lost_Viking]

Any info on target colors for '08 ?

[gethuntin]

Who all would kill for a hoyt bow 33-34" ATA 7" brace hight with ibo 344-350+...I know i'd have to have one

thats why i didnt buy an 07 hoping for one to come out in 08 looks kinda dissapointing again, even 330 would be nice at them specs

[viperarcher]

The vulcan is very fast , silky smooth,and very accurate what more do you need or want? if you can't hold the pin right on and hit the spot with a bow going 300fps what makes you think you can with a bow traveling 330 fps??????????

[jcmorgan31]

This was posted on 3Dshoots.com a couple days ago...

Here are the specs on the new bows.

New Bow, New Cam, 33" axle, 6" brace, 330 IBO
New Bow, New Cam, 36" axle, 7.5" brace, 320 IBO
New Bow, New modular cam, 36" axle, 7.5" brace, 307 IBO
New Bow, New modular cam, 28" Axle, 7" brace, 284 IBO (youth)

No model names have been released yet, to me anyway.

[TheTone]

I really hope that isn't everything that is going to be new this year. The second bow looks good from the specs, time will tell. I still haven't found a bow that has made me give up on my 03 Ultratec yet. If they are able to reduce the weight this year I'll take a good look.

[djmaxwe]

I agree they need to have the second bow available in a 32", 33" or 34". I am really not wanting a 6" brace bow or a 36" ata bow. If this is all they are going to offer I am not looking forward to 08 and Hoyt I think will loose a lot of sales, this sinks!!!!!!!

[Big Daddy POP]

Someone has to have freakin pictures, a catalog, anything.......................................... .................................................. ..:tongue::wink::darkbeer:

[Greg M]

Does anyone have any idea what is happening to the Elite series, its been out for a while now. Just interested if there will be a significant change with the Ultra & Pro or they will be left pretty much unchanged.

[bowhuntin_KS]

The vulcan is very fast , silky smooth,and very accurate what more do you need or want? if you can't hold the pin right on and hit the spot with a bow going 300fps what makes you think you can with a bow traveling 330 fps??????????

haha, i could with my old turbotec at 322fps with 385 grain arow, something faster just means i can shoot a HEAVY arrow at 300+fps. my synergys ibo is 336- and faster with speedmods (which i have) and i'm getting 312 fps from a 405 grain arrow...oh yeah.. LOADED string (leaches, d-loop, peep) at 29.5" draw.

[WidowMaker]

Here is my dream hoyt-The Elite Hunter- a 35in ata-Elite riser with a wood grip-no parrallel limbs-7.5in brace height-320 i.b.o. So it sounds like a faster vtec with an elite riser.

[3DBIGBULLX]

Here is my dream hoyt-The Elite Hunter- a 35in ata-Elite riser with a wood grip-no parrallel limbs-7.5in brace height-320 i.b.o. So it sounds like a faster vtec with an elite riser.

Check out my post on the first page about the Turbine

[hoytsdaddy]

Those specs for the new bows are accurate. :wink:There is a new cam this year. Named_________cam. There is also a new ladies bow in the lineup 284fps to replace the selena. :eek::eek:Get your wifes this new dragster.:wink: Im signing off now:):):):)

[die-languh]

who knows something about a new color or colors?

[TheTone]

I'm hoping if they go with a new camo this year they go with Max 1 or at least an option for it. Please!

[3DBIGBULLX]

I'm hoping if they go with a new camo this year they go with Max 1 or at least an option for it. Please!

I think they will!

[czecheiko]

I agree they need to have the second bow available in a 32", 33" or 34". I am really not wanting a 6" brace bow or a 36" ata bow. If this is all they are going to offer I am not looking forward to 08 and Hoyt I think will loose a lot of sales, this sinks!!!!!!!

There is one at 33" , 7" BH, 320 fps for 08':wink:

[archer109]

When are they gonna be available.

[cosmo]

i am almost positive the elite bows are not going any where. i would almost bet the new ap camo from real tree is the new camo

[bowhunter79]

I seen the sheet from Hoyt today at my dealer and I swear it said 33" ata 7" bh and 330 fps. Could be wrong but I swear thats what it said. My new Vectrix is going to be here Tuesday and Im already going to have to order another one. Guess thats what I get for waiting till the end of the year. There was no names on the sheet just specs.

[djmaxwe]

A 33" bow in 7" brace now that is what I not only wanted but needed to hear. I just hope that it is in Realtree AP camo. I will be telling my dealer to get one ordered ASAP if this is all true. I don't think that it will be 330fps, that is the 6" brace bow. But, I think it would be closer to 320 like the 36" a2a bow, although I would LOVE to see a 33" a2a 7" brace at 330fps

[DDaily]

I seen the sheet from Hoyt today at my dealer and I swear it said 33" ata 7" bh and 330 fps. Could be wrong but I swear thats what it said. My new Vectrix is going to be here Tuesday and Im already going to have to order another one. Guess thats what I get for waiting till the end of the year. There was no names on the sheet just specs.

Your Vectrix is a collectors item now and you don't even have it yet.:tongue: According to 3Dshoots.com the Vectrix and the XL are gone. My guess is so is the Vulcan with those specs!!!

[Ib4Hoyt]

i want the safari color back :cry:

[SIR SHOOTS ALOT]

Your Vectrix is a collectors item now and you don't even have it yet.:tongue: According to 3Dshoots.com the Vectrix and the XL are gone. My guess is so is the Vulcan with those specs!!!

yeah but there bringing the vectrix backin 2009????????:confused::confused:

[vito t]

One year ago to the day I asked the following question for 2007:

Does anyone have the skiddily diddily on the new Hoyt lineup?

Some said we would not have an answer until the end of Oct. or first part of Nov. 2007. They were wrong. So if you have any skiddily diddily spill it. We are all waiting. Main guess, changes to the elite line ................

What say you?

Hello, B D POP... it has been a while, hasn't it? One year I'd say...

Anyway - if you've asked, this is what I have to say: we should all call one special guy... He gave us all a helping hand last year... I think his name is Archineer 30X !!! :) Yep. That's him... ARCHINEER 30 x.. :wink: I KNOW he has a lot to say about this year's (2008 that is) HOYT line up, but, is he ready? Is he willing? Well, dear Mr. Archineer? How about a big TIP? Target colours and the elite models?
And a SF request: a picture of a 2008 model or two?

With best wishes from Ljubljana, Slovenija, Europe. V.:)

[thumper_pa]

they are only taking the VECTRIX XL away the sheet i saw said the VECTRIX would be new and improved for 2008

[Big Daddy POP]

Hello, B D POP... it has been a while, hasn't it? One year I'd say...

Anyway - if you've asked, this is what I have to say: we should all call one special guy... He gave us all a helping hand last year... I think his name is Archineer 30X !!! :) Yep. That's him... ARCHINEER 30 x.. :wink: I KNOW he has a lot to say about this year's (2008 that is) HOYT line up, but, is he ready? Is he willing? Well, dear Mr. Archineer? How about a big TIP? Target colours and the elite models?
And a SF request: a picture of a 2008 model or two?

With best wishes from Ljubljana, Slovenija, Europe. V.:)


You english is just fine Sir! :darkbeer:

[vito t]

Thanks...:)

[sagecreek]

I bet it has a tech riser, split limbs, and a hybrid cam. :plain:

Not that is a bad thing. :D

[rwells]

I bet it has the name HOYT on it somewhere also.

[gilbert]

Well!
What about recurve bows?
:rolleyes:

[centershot]

I hope they do more than put a 25 year old Saunders Plunger err 'stealthshot string suppressor' on them, or I'll be shooting the '03 Ultratec another year.

[TheTone]

I hope they do more than put a 25 year old Saunders Plunger err 'stealthshot string suppressor' on them, or I'll be shooting the '03 Ultratec another year.

I'm in the same boat, that 03 Ultratec is hard to let go of.

[tcooll77]

I'm in the same boat, that 03 Ultratec is hard to let go of.


so i ive heard from you and others...could be the best bow in the history of hunting and target bows :darkbeer:

[VinZ]

Well!
What about recurve bows?
:rolleyes:
I second that! What about recurve bows?
If you look at the production historie aerotec(tec)-matrix-helix(tec)-nexus it probably is a tec design, but we can't be sure until 1 nov (or someone posts the catalogue like last year...)

[ricardo6926]

they are only taking the VECTRIX XL away the sheet i saw said the VECTRIX would be new and improved for 2008

Standard Cam and half on the Vectrix.

[Greg M]

I second that! What about recurve bows?
If you look at the production historie aerotec(tec)-matrix-helix(tec)-nexus it probably is a tec design, but we can't be sure until 1 nov (or someone posts the catalogue like last year...)

Well, I hope someone gets their hands on the catalogue and posts some pics, I've been waiting 3 months to see what they will bring out and it's killing me...:frusty:

[VinZ]

I've read that on the 24 oct the new hoyt bows will be shown at Las Vegas.

[Percy]

The new Hoyt lineup will be on their site Oct 16th.

[macatac]

Well, I hope someone gets their hands on the catalogue and posts some pics, I've been waiting 3 months to see what they will bring out and it's killing me...:frusty:


Problem is, you will have to wait another 6 months to get your bow once you order it. I have 2 Hoyts, so I love the bows, I just hate their fall production planning, or lack thereof.

macatac

[djmaxwe]

I don't kknow where you are buying your bows or what draw that you are but I have ordered the Trykon in 06 and the Vectrix in 07 and got both of them within 1.5 wks. I will put my order in as soon as I see the 08's and will expect to get it again in 1 to 2 weeks.

[macatac]

I don't kknow where you are buying your bows or what draw that you are but I have ordered the Trykon in 06 and the Vectrix in 07 and got both of them within 1.5 wks. I will put my order in as soon as I see the 08's and will expect to get it again in 1 to 2 weeks.

If you get them that fast, you should probably be playing the lottery too.

I waited 20 weeks for an 8 week order, then cancelled it. Some things are not worth the wait or broken promises.

I know 2 dealers in my area who have dropped Hoyt for thier lack of delivery and communication.

macatac

[macatac]

I don't kknow where you are buying your bows or what draw that you are but I have ordered the Trykon in 06 and the Vectrix in 07 and got both of them within 1.5 wks. I will put my order in as soon as I see the 08's and will expect to get it again in 1 to 2 weeks.

I just noticed you are from MO, where did you order your bows? That may explain a lot about our differring experiences.

[centershot]

so i ive heard from you and others...could be the best bow in the history of hunting and target bows

No doubt the '03 Ultratec is in the top 10 ever. For me, I try out the new bows each year - then shoot the Ultratec again.......well they haven't got my $800 yet! I use the same bow for Indoor Targets, 3D's, and Hunting - Old thing has well over 20,000 shots on it and is still the easiest tuning, smooth shooter I have ever owned. Most guys that owned one and sold it, say they wish they still had it.

[die-languh]

i have heard that the distribution center in holland allready received new hoyt bows, maybe that this time we dont have to wait that long...

[ccoburn33]

I was one of those guys that sold my '03 Ultra only to trade back for it after owning my '05 Ultra for a season. I loved the '03 so much I traded even up by giving the guy my '05. I have never shot anything better.

[vito t]

i have heard that the distribution center in holland allready received new hoyt bows, maybe that this time we dont have to wait that long...

Just hope you're right... Last year it was perfect for me: I got my Proelite 2007 in a week: orderd it on december 21st - and recived it on december 28th which I think is fast: guess some guys from the States didn't get them as fast as we did. Anyway: I'd just really like to see what they've done with the elite series for 2008... if they're just a bit lighter, maybe another cam..wow... :tongue:

[VinZ]

i have heard that the distribution center in holland allready received new hoyt bows, maybe that this time we dont have to wait that long...
I've heard about that from another source and discounted it as 'rumour' and/or wishfull thinking. Reading you post I'm beginning to doubt that. Seems I have to give BugXXXX a call (I don't want them to be overwelmed by calls. Dutch archers will know who I'm talking about).

[Boludo]

Just talked to my "guy". He confirmed the stuff on this board, and said the bows would still be over 4 pounds, but lose about 4-6 oz.

Too bad these Hoyt boys don't build a breakable bow. I'm sure we could really lose a bunch of weight then.

[tcooll77]

shhoot a drenalin then:)

i dont like my bows to light

[Greg M]

Pics of the new target bow.....

[1400 shooter]

Like the latest range but shave 2 pounds off every model and ad draw lenght modules...

[wihunter402]

Anyone have any definate information on Camo pattern/s? It would be cool if they would offer a couple of different ones.

[outbackarcher]

I wish Hoyt would build a 38" bow with 7-7.5 brace and binary cams. I think that would be one awesome bow.

[Big Daddy POP]

I've read that on the 24 oct the new hoyt bows will be shown at Las Vegas.

Share Dude, where did you read that?

[BOWGOD]

shhoot a drenalin then:)

i dont like my bows to light



yeah i don't see why so many complain that the hoyt bows are too heavy, they are with in a couple ounces of every other bow, but light bows are so hard to hold steady, i add at least a pound of weight to all my bows often times even more than that, just simple facts a heavier bow is going to hold steadier than a lighter bow. even my hunting bow has a 10 inch AEP stabilizer with 3 weights plus 2 side weights. and each of these weight weigh 2.5 ounces.

[Greg M]

I've heard they will be on the Hoyt site on the 16th October.

[Hoyt Thompson]

I added a 12oz. Stabilizer to mine and love my "boat anchor"!

[Big Daddy POP]

yeah i don't see why so many complain that the hoyt bows are too heavy, they are with in a couple ounces of every other bow, but light bows are so hard to hold steady, i add at least a pound of weight to all my bows often times even more than that, just simple facts a heavier bow is going to hold steadier than a lighter bow. even my hunting bow has a 10 inch AEP stabilizer with 3 weights plus 2 side weights. and each of these weight weigh 2.5 ounces.

Only makes sense. Light bows are very jerky and not very accurate compared to a heavier bow. I always add weight and I tend to hold straight on the target.........


:darkbeer::):cocktail::confused::pukey:

[eshorebwhntr]

Here is my dream hoyt-The Elite Hunter- a 35in ata-Elite riser with a wood grip-no parrallel limbs-7.5in brace height-320 i.b.o. So it sounds like a faster vtec with an elite riser.

This guy knows what he's talkin about!!! Balance all the way around....:wink:

[VinZ]

Share Dude, where did you read that?
I just googled 'hoyt 2008 bows' and started reading forums.
Let's hope Percy is right about 16 oct ... (update website hoyt).

Hopefully Hoyt has an answer to the superior limbs of W&W Winex/Innopower (and xpression if i have to believe postings on AT). That answer is 2 years overdue.

[gad]

I wish Hoyt would build a 38" bow with 7-7.5 brace and binary cams. I think that would be one awesome bow.

I had dreams about that too. :darkbeer:

[centershot]

I wish Hoyt would build a 38" bow with 7-7.5 brace and binary cams. I think that would be one awesome bow.

They did, the '03 Ultratec.

[-bowfreak-]

They did, the '03 Ultratec.


No they didn't. Cam and 1/2's are hybrids not binaries. But, I still love my 03 Ultratec.

[viperarcher]

I ordered a Hoyt vulcan had it in one week! Hoyt has come along way and is trying to fill orderes fast and promptly! As for the Vector cam's I think they are the smoothest and fastest cam's Hoyt has ever produced! The Vulcan is very fast , very smooth, and very accurate! its probley the best Hoyt bow I have ever owned and I have owned alot of them!

[wihunter402]

I ordered a Hoyt vulcan had it in one week! Hoyt has come along way and is trying to fill orderes fast and promptly! As for the Vector cam's I think they are the smoothest and fastest cam's Hoyt has ever produced! The Vulcan is very fast , very smooth, and very accurate! its probley the best Hoyt bow I have ever owned and I have owned alot of them!

I know several guys that got their '07's within 2 weeks. My step daughter got her target blue Trykon Sport in about 6 weeks and we were told 6-8. I know they USED to be slow but now that just doesn't happen very often.

Seeing the new BowTec General I will be giving much more consideration to what Hoyt is putting out. I think the STS thing looks like an afterthought that didn't get finished and I don't think I like the rollers for the cables. JMO. I will still shoot it and I am sure it shoots just as nice as the Guardian that I shot. Gonna be fun checking them all out.

[djmaxwe]

The 36" ata 7.5" bh bow that is shooting 320fps, someone posted earlier looks like it would be replacing the Vectrix XL, that looks true but it doesn't look like they will be replacing or revamping the Vectrix. There is no one seen where they will be making a 33" ata in 7" bh @ 320fps. I am wondering how guy's that are decent shots are shooting the Vulcan out at 50 plus yards, with the 6" bh that worries me, but if you want a new bow in a 33" from Hoyt and you don't want the old Vectrix you be ordering the 6" bh. Let me know!!!!!!

[tek]

There is one at 33" , 7" BH, 320 fps for 08':wink:

This might be the bow you are looking for? :wink:

[Mark250]

I know several guys that got their '07's within 2 weeks. My step daughter got her target blue Trykon Sport in about 6 weeks and we were told 6-8. I know they USED to be slow but now that just doesn't happen very often.

Seeing the new BowTec General I will be giving much more consideration to what Hoyt is putting out. I think the STS thing looks like an afterthought that didn't get finished and I don't think I like the rollers for the cables. JMO. I will still shoot it and I am sure it shoots just as nice as the Guardian that I shot. Gonna be fun checking them all out.


Not everybody is lucky enough to get their bow in a timely manner!! If you do great, if not relax it will make it to you eventually.

[djmaxwe]

djmaxwe

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Quote:
Originally Posted by czecheiko
There is one at 33" , 7" BH, 320 fps for 08'

This might be the bow you are looking for?
I talked to czecheiko and he said that he was actually looking at the 33"ata, 6" bh he thought, but he would check again. I hope that they made a 7" bh because the 6" bh worries me out at 50 & 60 yards. There again I need to here how guy's that are not expert shots but are very good shots, how they are shooting the Vulcan. czecheiko has a Vulcan and he loves it but he is also a great shot.

[smitty72]

I wish HOYT would hurry up and release pictures so we can see what the 2008's will look like BOWTECH already released pictures of there 2008's

[Greg M]

I wish HOYT would hurry up and release pictures so we can see what the 2008's will look like BOWTECH already released pictures of there 2008's

How true...I'm pulling my hair out waiting....

[-bowfreak-]

Come on Utah. Man up!!!!!!!! Lets see some pics.

[slick4]

Come on Utah. Man up!!!!!!!! Lets see some pics.
Maybe they are having the same problems developing their pics that they have with the production and delivery!:confused:

[BOWGOD]

Maybe they are having the same problems developing their pics that they have with the production and delivery!:confused:



you hear this so much. but i can assure you when your waiting in 99% of the cases it is your dealer not hoyt. i used to be a hoyt dealer, if your bill is paid you get bows quick if not they put you on credit hold and you wait.

as i said i USED to be a dealer, since those days i've been buying bows like the rest of you, the first dealer i was using took forever to get anything, i switched dealers my new dealer get's everything very quick, i've bought 6 bows in the last 2 years and all but 1 of those arrived in less than 2 weeks, and a couple of them were even target colors so go figure. the only one that didn't come in less than 2 weeks was a custom shop bow so i knew it would take longer (they have to get aproval to build them) and still i got it in just under a month.

so from now on instead of beating up on hoyt for delivery times look at other dealers you'd be surprised at how fast hoyt can get you stuff when your dealer is on the level.

[gilbert]

I need, need, need some pics!! (Lou Reed)

:wink:

[nodog]

you hear this so much. but i can assure you when your waiting in 99% of the cases it is your dealer not hoyt. i used to be a hoyt dealer, if your bill is paid you get bows quick if not they put you on credit hold and you wait.

.


Makes absolutly no difference to the consumer as long as hoyt refuses to deal directly with the customer. For me the consumer, their refusal and insitance that I get whatever from their dealers, even a msrp, has driven me away. Out of Hoyts own mouth, when I'm talking to a dealer I'm talking to them. I'm not paying top dollar for crappy service and I'm not screening dealers either. Treat me right or adios. Hoyts fault plain and simple.

[WidowMaker]

I got my new target color ultraelite faster than my friends got their guardians.

[viperarcher]

The 36" ata 7.5" bh bow that is shooting 320fps, someone posted earlier looks like it would be replacing the Vectrix XL, that looks true but it doesn't look like they will be replacing or revamping the Vectrix. There is no one seen where they will be making a 33" ata in 7" bh @ 320fps. I am wondering how guy's that are decent shots are shooting the Vulcan out at 50 plus yards, with the 6" bh that worries me, but if you want a new bow in a 33" from Hoyt and you don't want the old Vectrix you be ordering the 6" bh. Let me know!!!!!!

I am telling you I was sceptical about the Vulcan with only a 6in brace height , but once I shot this bow out to 60 yards my worries soon disapeared, this bow was so silky smooth, points like no other , and fast and very accurate and forgiving! put your worries aside! This bow shoots great rather your a professional or just a good shot to an average joe!

[wihunter402]

I am telling you I was sceptical about the Vulcan with only a 6in brace height , but once I shot this bow out to 60 yards my worries soon disapeared, this bow was so silky smooth, points like no other , and fast and very accurate and forgiving! put your worries aside! This bow shoots great rather your a professional or just a good shot to an average joe!


That's what I have heard. I only shot it at 20 yards but it shot great for me and I am NOTHING MORE then an average Joe.

[BOWGOD]

Makes absolutly no difference to the consumer as long as hoyt refuses to deal directly with the customer. For me the consumer, their refusal and insitance that I get whatever from their dealers, even a msrp, has driven me away. Out of Hoyts own mouth, when I'm talking to a dealer I'm talking to them. I'm not paying top dollar for crappy service and I'm not screening dealers either. Treat me right or adios. Hoyts fault plain and simple.


not sure how you go about buissness but hoyt's service has been anything but crappy to me, they have always been there ready and willing to answer any questions i have, sure i have to go to a dealer to get what i need but it don't matter it's the same with every other bow company mathews, bowtech, the top line pse, martins, even parker. it's their way of protecting their dealers. if they didn't do that every pro shop would go out of buissness then the average joe would have no where to turn when they need help or service. so i don't see the problem, i have a shop in my house i do all my own work but i still have to go to a dealer when i need something and i respect that policey. but i have nothing but good things to say about hoyt's customer service they have always been great to me and everyone else i know. the only problems i have had with them was because of dead beat deaers.

[thespyhunter]

not sure how you go about buissness but hoyt's service has been anything but crappy to me, they have always been there ready and willing to answer any questions i have, sure i have to go to a dealer to get what i need but it don't matter it's the same with every other bow company mathews, bowtech, the top line pse, martins, even parker. it's their way of protecting their dealers. if they didn't do that every pro shop would go out of buissness then the average joe would have no where to turn when they need help or service. so i don't see the problem, i have a shop in my house i do all my own work but i still have to go to a dealer when i need something and i respect that policey. but i have nothing but good things to say about hoyt's customer service they have always been great to me and everyone else i know. the only problems i have had with them was because of dead beat deaers.

Likewise, I too do my own work. I have been shooting Hoyt's for the last 4 years, and short of ordering some cams or a cable gaurd rod through my dealer, I have never even needed customer service. Everything I have ordered was at the dealers shop in 6 days or less. I have no problem ordering through my dealer, because that is what keeps him in business.

[bornagain]

Same with me 9 bows in the last two years, 3 of which were target colors average wait time, 12 business days less than 3 weeks. Plus customer service above and beyond the call of duty no compalints here. I do think the dealer has a lot to do with it.

[thespyhunter]

Same with me 9 bows in the last two years, 3 of which were target colors average wait time, 12 business days less than 3 weeks. Plus customer service above and beyond the call of duty no compalints here. I do think the dealer has a lot to do with it.

Agreed ~ my dealer is the #1 Hoyt dealer in Oklahoma for several years running. He has alot to do with it.

[Big Daddy POP]

Likewise, I too do my own work. I have been shooting Hoyt's for the last 4 years, and short of ordering some cams or a cable gaurd rod through my dealer, I have never even needed customer service. Everything I have ordered was at the dealers shop in 6 days or less. I have no problem ordering through my dealer, because that is what keeps him in business.

Never been an issue for either. BowGod is dead on. In fact I wait longer on bow strings and cables then I ever have on Hoyt bows through my dealer in Jacksonville. That is until I switched to wolfden strings. Those people crank the strings out in mere days.

Now, where the heck is are freakin pictures?

:darkbeer::):cocktail::confused::pukey:

[-bowfreak-]

Now, where the heck is are freakin pictures?

:darkbeer::):cocktail::confused::pukey:

I agree. Somebody has them by now for sure?

[smitty72]

I guess no pictures? :cry:

[ARROWS&ANTLERS]

looking forward to Vectrix replacement:darkbeer:

[Big Daddy POP]

I guess no pictures? :cry:

I guess not yet.....................:BangHead:

[thespyhunter]

Remember , it wasnt until Oct. 16 last year before any pics surfaced.
Maybe Luvs2shoot will come through again on the 16th of this year :)

[Big Daddy POP]

Remember , it wasnt until Oct. 16 last year before any pics surfaced.
Maybe Luvs2shoot will come through again on the 16th of this year :)

You are right I should be more patient.............

I just want my freakin pictures.........:crybaby2::cry:

[djmaxwe]

Makes absolutly no difference to the consumer as long as hoyt refuses to deal directly with the customer. For me the consumer, their refusal and insitance that I get whatever from their dealers, even a msrp, has driven me away. Out of Hoyts own mouth, when I'm talking to a dealer I'm talking to them. I'm not paying top dollar for crappy service and I'm not screening dealers either. Treat me right or adios. Hoyts fault plain and simple.

I am not sure what nodog is thinking, If I had a bussiness and someone had not payed me I am sure I would not be wanting to send them anything even parts until they would make a payment. The dealer I deal with has everthing thathe orders within 1 wk or less except for maybe special orders (Target Bows). I don't blame Hoyt and I would be looking for a new dealer.

[mjacobs576jq]

:darkbeer:I am not sure what nodog is thinking, If I had a bussiness and someone had not payed me I am sure I would not be wanting to send them anything even parts until they would make a payment. The dealer I deal with has everthing thathe orders within 1 wk or less except for maybe special orders (Target Bows). I don't blame Hoyt and I would be looking for a new dealer.

I was about to type the same thing....

Ok so dealer A owes Hoyt $3000 and dealer B is square with Hoyt, the new model line comes out and the dealers each orders $5000 worth of new bows and still has the past due balance; does it really make sense to ship them their bows at the same time when there are probably other dealers who are squared up as well? I can tell you I'd ship to dealers who pay me in full first so I am not hanging on the line for all kinds of cash, as far as the comment about not having to screening dealers...that's just silly. If you were building a house or an addition would you screen the contracter? It is your job as a consumer to screen the place of business you deal with, otherwise you could get duped...just my .02

Now bring on the pics :darkbeer:

[gilbert]

I want to see Hot pics!:tongue:

[thumper_pa]

there is several forms of debit to these bow companies and i would say that 95% of the pro shops that are hoyt dealers owe money to hoyt and if the dealer is late on his payments that has no reflection on the ship time however if the dealer is so late that his account is on hold and he can not order any more bows by that time he is no longer a hoyt dealer and sadly there is no why to find all of this out the best way to go about it is to go to a repitable establishment i would think a shop that is doing business and making people happy is a shop that is in good standing with hoyt and if you are skeptical on your local shop call hoyt to make sure he is still in fact a dealer and if he is in bad standings with hoyt and can not order bows they will tell you he is no longer a dealer and point you in the right direction now on the other hand there are shops that are on a cash base system meaning the bow that is ordered needs to be paid before it can ship and to be honest the only shop that is going to be that way is a bargin basement bandit STAY AWAY as afr as differant bows and ship time not one bow will take the same time unless identical bows are ordered and maybe one is in stock and the other needs to be built in that case luck of the draw

[smitty72]

Is it Oct. 16th yet? Maybe we'll see some pictures :confused:

[Punch_Master]

I am not sure what nodog is thinking, If I had a bussiness and someone had not payed me I am sure I would not be wanting to send them anything even parts until they would make a payment. The dealer I deal with has everthing thathe orders within 1 wk or less except for maybe special orders (Target Bows). I don't blame Hoyt and I would be looking for a new dealer.A dealer's financial status with Hoyt is not a customer's problem. The end customer should not be penalized for going to a shop that is not in good standing with Hoyt. Does Hoyt make this information available to the public? No they do not. How are we supposed to know which shop pays it's bills and which ones don't? I say it is up to Hoyt to police it's own rank of dealers and any store that lags in payment loses it ability to sell Hoyt. The fault of bad dealers still selling Hoyt bows with long delivery times is still Hoyt's fault for not policing the Pro shops enough. No matter how you slice it, poor customer service is still Hoyt's problem.

[macatac]

A dealer's financial status with Hoyt is not a customer's problem. The end customer should not be penalized for going to a shop that is not in good standing with Hoyt. Does Hoyt make this information available to the public? No they do not. How are we supposed to know which shop pays it's bills and which ones don't? I say it is up to Hoyt to police it's own rank of dealers and any store that lags in payment loses it ability to sell Hoyt. The fault of bad dealers still selling Hoyt bows with long delivery times is still Hoyt's fault for not policing the Pro shops enough. No matter how you slice it, poor customer service is still Hoyt's problem.

What he said. Hoyt has lost 2 dealers in my area. Guess I will just shoot Bowtech. I am tired of Hoyt's service, or lack thereof.

macatac

[djmaxwe]

What he said. Hoyt has lost 2 dealers in my area. Guess I will just shoot Bowtech. I am tired of Hoyt's service, or lack thereof.Originally Posted by Punch_Master
A dealer's financial status with Hoyt is not a customer's problem. The end customer should not be penalized for going to a shop that is not in good standing with Hoyt. Does Hoyt make this information available to the public? No they do not. How are we supposed to know which shop pays it's bills and which ones don't? I say it is up to Hoyt to police it's own rank of dealers and any store that lags in payment loses it ability to sell Hoyt. The fault of bad dealers still selling Hoyt bows with long delivery times is still Hoyt's fault for not policing the Pro shops enough. No matter how you slice it, poor customer service is still Hoyt's problem.

macatac

So, you guy's are telling me that if you had passed a bad check on something that you would want or as it sounds want that place of business to post your bad check out there for everyone to see, I don't think so. What they are doing is giving them a chane to make payment and keep in good standings. Now, if I was the customer and I waited as long as some of these guy's are waitng I would be looking for a new dealer to get the product or even order one from a dealer out of state in order to get the product. I DO NOT FEEL SORRY FOR THE ONES WHO ARE WAITING, because there are great dealers out there that can get you the bow that you want.

[Big Daddy POP]

So, you guy's are telling me that if you had passed a bad check on something that you would want or as it sounds want that place of business to post your bad check out there for everyone to see, I don't think so. What they are doing is giving them a chane to make payment and keep in good standings. Now, if I was the customer and I waited as long as some of these guy's are waitng I would be looking for a new dealer to get the product or even order one from a dealer out of state in order to get the product. I DO NOT FEEL SORRY FOR THE ONES WHO ARE WAITING, because there are great dealers out there that can get you the bow that you want.

Agreed. Those of you that are angry with Hoyt have you anger misplaced. The dealers who do not pay timely are to blame. Find a new dealer. Many will gladly order you bow for you, and ship it if they have to. As I indicated above, I have never had a problem no matter when I order. If the dealer sucks change dealers. It is that simple.

[Big Daddy POP]

Now, where are my freakin pictures!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :frusty::frusty::frusty::frusty:

[OklaArcher]

Now, where are my freakin pictures!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :frusty::frusty::frusty::frusty:

My thoughts exactly, this thread is getting side tracked.:mad:

[die-languh]

indeed allot of offtopic post's !!! only 9 day's till 16th of october!

[thespyhunter]

If you dont like Hoyt's customer service , then go shoot something else, like a Mathews. :violin:

Otherwise,

:focus:

[thespyhunter]

What he said. Hoyt has lost 2 dealers in my area. Guess I will just shoot Bowtech. I am tired of Hoyt's service, or lack thereof.

macatac


Good advice for yourself :thumbs_up:thumbs_up

[Big Daddy POP]

indeed allot of offtopic post's !!! only 9 day's till 16th of october!

Indeed!

[Mark250]

Agreed. Those of you that are angry with Hoyt have you anger misplaced. The dealers who do not pay timely are to blame. Find a new dealer. Many will gladly order you bow for you, and ship it if they have to. As I indicated above, I have never had a problem no matter when I order. If the dealer sucks change dealers. It is that simple.

Whatever happened to proshop loyalty!!! When you order the bow from another shop it takes money from your home shop. Most people will then take the bow and have their local shop change the accessories to the new one and or tune it. I know this because I see it at the local archery proshop I work at. It happens all the time.

I have seen some Hoyts come in quick and others it will take a long time to get. Last year I ordered two Proelites at the same time and one came in a month later than the other. Two to three month wait. In that time someone ordered a Proelite and it came in before mine did. It was there in less than three weeks. I wanted it to be mine but the draw was too long. Our shop it is the luck of the draw on how long it takes for a Hoyt bow to come in.

[huntelk]

There are definitely some leadership issues at Hoyt. Whether it is lack of communication between puchasing/manufacturing, manufacturing/sales or wherever I don't know. I do know first hand of several dealers that fit all of the forementioned types. Yes, I agree that there are a lot of dealers that shouldn't be dealers and I feel it is Hoyt's responsibility to shut down the ones loosing business for Hoyt. A lot of the issues hinge around the sales reps. Some are great and some would better serve the world as greeters at Wal-Mart. Then add the fact that some reps have their "pet" shops and the rest get neglected.

Hoyt USA needs to start a new program demanding all facets of the company "UNDER-promise and OVER-deliver".

That being said I will still be shooting my Hoyt's since they do have the best bow for me. As for you guys switching to BT or something else....go right ahead....I'll sit here and wait for my slow roasted prime rib while you run out and get a number 3 at the drive-thru:pukey:

For you Macatac I think that is a number 1:wink:

[tcooll77]

"right you are ken"

thanks vic

[macatac]

There are definitely some leadership issues at Hoyt. Whether it is lack of communication between puchasing/manufacturing, manufacturing/sales or wherever I don't know. I do know first hand of several dealers that fit all of the forementioned types. Yes, I agree that there are a lot of dealers that shouldn't be dealers and I feel it is Hoyt's responsibility to shut down the ones loosing business for Hoyt. A lot of the issues hinge around the sales reps. Some are great and some would better serve the world as greeters at Wal-Mart. Then add the fact that some reps have their "pet" shops and the rest get neglected.

Hoyt USA needs to start a new program demanding all facets of the company "UNDER-promise and OVER-deliver".

That being said I will still be shooting my Hoyt's since they do have the best bow for me. As for you guys switching to BT or something else....go right ahead....I'll sit here and wait for my slow roasted prime rib while you run out and get a number 3 at the drive-thru:pukey:

For you Macatac I think that is a number 1:wink:

Actually, it is a #3, with a Diet Coke. :tongue:

macatac

[gilbert]

Frankly...
Did they shoot HOYT at the THERMOPYLES'S PASS? :mad:

[BK Artworks]

So according to a few on here it's always the dealers fault or hoyts fault and there is no chance that the regionals sales person cant be at fault for say putting an order in late or something like that?

[wihunter402]

Anyone got any pictures yet??? What about colors both target and camo pattern this year? Any chance the Safari will be coming back??

[Schme1440]

Mr George Tek. from Hoyt has announced that no inof will be released untill october 16th. Not even hoyt shooters will kinow till then. Apparently.

[WidowMaker]

I already told you guys what Hoyt is releasing. INtroducing The Elite HUnter.
35in ata, 7in brace ,elite riser, staight limbs, 320ibo :wink:

[-bowfreak-]

Anyone got any pictures yet??? What about colors both target and camo pattern this year? Any chance the Safari will be coming back??

Since it is probably a given they will have the same old camo I am holding out hope for Safari color or flat black.

[wihunter402]

Since it is probably a given they will have the same old camo I am holding out hope for Safari color or flat black.

Safari or flat black would be cool. I thought somewhere I read that Realtree dumped the hardwoods pattern so I figure they have to do a different pattern this year.

[JHeuvel]

I know that the vulcan will be around for awhile and its a sweet bow!

Yah because Hoyt has never disconiued any bows before that everybody loved.:wink: LoL I hope you detect the sarcasm.

[viperarcher]

Yah because Hoyt has never disconiued any bows before that everybody loved.:wink: LoL I hope you detect the sarcasm.
I got it loud and clear! LOL !
well I am gonna hang onto this Vulcan for awhile its just a sweet shooter!

[tcooll77]

who checks this thread like 20 times a day

[OklaArcher]

I have instant email notification!:wink:



I'm so ashamed......:cry:

[Big Daddy POP]

I have instant email notification!:wink:



I'm so ashamed......:cry:

LOL:ROFLMAO:

[die-languh]

I have instant email notification!

Youre not the only one :secret:

[vito t]

Youre not the only one :secret:

Just stand in the line, please!!!:eek:


I'm the first on the instant email notification list.. :embara:

[Carphunter]

so, reading threads here and 3dshoots, it looks like we may see product info in the 10/15 time frame... that what other people are seeing? I'm asking because I'm guessing the price on the 07 Vec. XL I'm looking at will drop substantially when that list/product gets here.

[wihunter402]

who checks this thread like 20 times a day

Guess I would be one of them. Over 20,000 hits so there must be more then just a couple of us.

[gilbert]

Well!
Be seious now....

No pictures around? Pleeeeeaaase!

I'm down on my knees...

And Hoyt is loosing customers!:toothy2:

[Big Daddy POP]

Well!
Be seious now....

No pictures around? Pleeeeeaaase!

I'm down on my knees...

And Hoyt is loosing customers!:toothy2:


Seriously!!!!!! I am dying over here!

:frusty::frusty::frusty::baby::baby::baby:

[Smooch]

who checks this thread like 20 times a day

Honestly guy's, I only check this thread once a day. :lie::lie::lie:

[BOWGOD]

Yah because Hoyt has never disconiued any bows before that everybody loved.:wink: LoL I hope you detect the sarcasm.


i heard that i think the worst move ever in the history of archery was discontinueing the protec and ulratec, i'll be crying over the choice for years to come. it justs adds to my dislike of parrelel limb bows i hate them hate them hate them.:cry:

[OklaArcher]

it justs adds to my dislike of parrelel limb bows i hate them hate them hate them.:cry:

:rain:

It is hard to beat an '02 Protec with LX Pro limbs and command cams, with a shoot through harness, and fingers, and some 2613's. :eek: :hurt:

In all seriousness though, I am a man, and I can wait for the pics, it doesn't affect me one bit. :twitch:

[Carphunter]

The 36" ata 7.5" bh bow that is shooting 320fps, someone posted earlier looks like it would be replacing the Vectrix XL, that looks true but it doesn't look like they will be replacing or revamping the Vectrix. There is no one seen where they will be making a 33" ata in 7" bh @ 320fps. I am wondering how guy's that are decent shots are shooting the Vulcan out at 50 plus yards, with the 6" bh that worries me, but if you want a new bow in a 33" from Hoyt and you don't want the old Vectrix you be ordering the 6" bh. Let me know!!!!!!

One dealer I talked to thought it was quite possible that one or two of the mystery bows could be something along the lines of a Vectrix 2 or XL 2.

[djmaxwe]

One dealer I talked to thought it was quite possible that one or two of the mystery bows could be something along the lines of a Vectrix 2 or XL 2.

I also heard something along those lines as well today. They are suppose to announce the FLAG SHIP bow on the 15th to all the Reps and then to the public on the 16th. The order sheet that everyone is talking about earlier are for sure and the deals put in how many of them that they wanted to oder and Hoyt is going to just send so many of the Flag ship bows out to them. I just that it is a 33" ATA, 7" BH and 28" draw and I will take it. But Carphunter, thanks for reassuring just what I heard as well. ALso if it is the Vectrix 2 it will be lighter and faster I just don't want any handshock because then I feel that Hoyt would have taken a step backwards just as Mathews did with the Denilin.

[smitty72]

Only 6 more days :cry: and we should find out what the new bows are. :tongue:

[gilbert]

Long wait, Big deception.

No more recurve in The Shop....

Brand new! The iphone bow...:cow:

[Carphunter]

But Carphunter, thanks for reassuring just what I heard as well. ALso if it is the Vectrix 2 it will be lighter and faster I just don't want any handshock because then I feel that Hoyt would have taken a step backwards just as Mathews did with the Denilin.

And I'm guessing that since you're in not in the same state as I am...we're not talking to the same place :)

Dealer I talked to didn't know, though, if those dates were announce, ship, or arrival dates for the mystery bows.

I guess I better figure out pretty fast if I'm a 31 or 31.5 draw so I'm ready :)

[HCAman]

AAAARRRRGGGGHHHH!!!!

The suspense is killing me!!!!!:cry::angry::cry:

[rohenia222]

the camo is discontinued, along with the trykon, vectrix, vectrix xl, vulcan, and selena new bows are supposed to hit dealer doors 3-4 days after release (if the dealer took advantage of the preview order,,yes we order bows blind) other than that just be patient

[wihunter402]

the camo is discontinued, along with the trykon, vectrix, vectrix xl, vulcan, and selena new bows are supposed to hit dealer doors 3-4 days after release (if the dealer took advantage of the preview order,,yes we order bows blind) other than that just be patient


All those are gone. I can't wait to see what it coming in their place. All this is NOT good for the blood pressure.:fuming:

[djmaxwe]

the camo is discontinued, along with the trykon, vectrix, vectrix xl, vulcan, and selena new bows are supposed to hit dealer doors 3-4 days after release (if the dealer took advantage of the preview order,,yes we order bows blind) other than that just be patient

If you know all this then what is going to be the new camo and what I heard is that it will be a Vectrix 2. All I know is that I give up a bow that I really liked (Vectrix) to have the new one. I just hope that Hoyt comes through with a 33"ata and 7"BH bow that is around the 320-325fps. I heard they are and it is one of the bows that was not on the order sheet.

[rohenia222]

mossy oak

[djmaxwe]

mossy oak

Thats hard to beleive since they are useing Realtree APG on the Reflex line and Team Realtree is shooting their bows as well as Michael Waddell is their main man along with the Archers Choice and all of these guys are connected to REALTREE, I will BELEIVE it I see it!!!!!!!! I am betting on Realtree AP.:darkbeer:

[uphunter]

from my rep RealtreeAPG

[Big Daddy POP]

from my rep RealtreeAPG

Uphunter, I think that makes sense. Too many people in the industry tied to real tree that also Hoyt. It has been and is a good relationship that serve both very well.

:darkbeer::):cocktail::confused::pukey:

[gilbert]

And one more instant mail notification for all!!!:uzi:

What a suspense guys!

:wav:

[rustyfence]

Well, I have not posted on this thread yet, but come on somebody has to have some pictures by now.

[Paul Cataldo]

Realtree APG is cool with me.
Someone needs to tell Bill Jordan to put down that Mathews and pick up a Hoyt for a change...

[viperarcher]

Whatever happened to proshop loyalty!!! When you order the bow from another shop it takes money from your home shop. Most people will then take the bow and have their local shop change the accessories to the new one and or tune it. I know this because I see it at the local archery proshop I work at. It happens all the time.

I have seen some Hoyts come in quick and others it will take a long time to get. Last year I ordered two Proelites at the same time and one came in a month later than the other. Two to three month wait. In that time someone ordered a Proelite and it came in before mine did. It was there in less than three weeks. I wanted it to be mine but the draw was too long. Our shop it is the luck of the draw on how long it takes for a Hoyt bow to come in.

if the shop would pay its bill on time to Hoyt you would Have had the bows sooner! if you get a target bow with target colors it has to go out to be anodized so sometimes that takes longer!

[OklaArcher]

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[archery288]

so where's the pic then??!! :confused:

[Greg M]

Thats not funny......:uzi:

[OklaArcher]

okay, I'm sorry.:embara:

[BigJoe308]

Got few dollars the old lady don't know about. The wait is kill-n me too. If the specs posted here are right, then I may be looking seriously at the fast one.

Been reading this post for several days and just couldn't help but jump in. :)


Joe

[Big Daddy POP]

Realtree APG is cool with me.
Someone needs to tell Bill Jordan to put down that Mathews and pick up a Hoyt for a change...

Amen brotherman. When he first started he did shoot a hoyt. I think the initial resistance to using anything but their own (hoyt) camo may have dampened things but recent years relationships have made it all good.

:darkbeer::):cocktail::confused::pukey:

[Greg M]

I know there are photos, but how can someone keep a secret for this long...

Pics pleeeeeeeeese....someone.....:hurt:

[HCAman]

Hoyt should pick one lucky poster from this thread and fly them out to the factory and allow them to take pics of the 2008 bows and post them when they are ready to let that cat out of the bag!!!!

Wouldn't that be cool!!!!:wink:

[OklaArcher]

Hoyt should pick one lucky poster from this thread and fly them out to the factory and allow them to take pics of the 2008 bows and post them when they are ready to let that cat out of the bag!!!!

Wouldn't that be cool!!!!:wink:



I'll volunteer!!! :tongue:

[Carphunter]

Okay guys, after a lot of begging and pleading I got a picture. So here you go.
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