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mbw1924
December 30th, 2008, 08:08 PM
here are a few pics of my doe from last weekend, probably the biggest doe ive taken. how old do you guys think she is?

http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff88/mbw1924/S4023875.jpg

http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff88/mbw1924/S4023876.jpg

http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff88/mbw1924/S4023877.jpg

http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff88/mbw1924/S4023872.jpg

she is the closest one hanging.
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff88/mbw1924/S4023867.jpg

Meleagris1
December 30th, 2008, 08:49 PM
The lingual cusps on the first molar are slightly rounded but still distinct, the dentine is wider than the enamel, which means at least 3.5. To get to 4.5 the detine band will be at least as wide or wider in the 2nd molar (5th tooth) which it looks like it is. Light/Moderate wear on all premolars and the last cusp of the third molar is starting to wear towards the cheek. Looks to me like it could 4.5 years old. Not enough wear on most cusps to be 5.5. To really be sure between 3.5 and 4.5 I would want to have it in my hand. Sometimes its tough to tell from pics although I think you did a pretty good job taking them. Nice doe, congrats!

mbw1924
December 30th, 2008, 09:05 PM
thanks, i was thinking at least 3.5 but also thought it could be 4.5 bases on the head and size of the doe.

PAstringking
December 30th, 2008, 09:13 PM
she is 4.5 years old....and Meleagris basically explained why i think she was that age

jdslyr
December 30th, 2008, 10:47 PM
4.5-5.5
nice kill!:darkbeer:

SEOBowhntr
December 30th, 2008, 10:59 PM
she is 4.5 years old....and Meleagris basically explained why i think she was that age

+1, There's just a little more tooth there than the doe I killed, but I'm not sure if she's 5.5 or 6.5 looking at her, the jaw is in a carcas pile, hopefully nothing runs off with it, once it's cleaned up, I may go pick it out and take a couple pic's.


Nice kill, CONGRATS!!!
:set1_draught2:

bowhunt3r
December 31st, 2008, 01:13 AM
I would say 4.5

powertec07
December 31st, 2008, 02:18 AM
4.5 is my guess

LetThemGrow
December 31st, 2008, 09:59 AM
The lingual cusps on the first molar are slightly rounded but still distinct, the dentine is wider than the enamel, which means at least 3.5. To get to 4.5 the detine band will be at least as wide or wider in the 2nd molar (5th tooth) which it looks like it is. Light/Moderate wear on all premolars and the last cusp of the third molar is starting to wear towards the cheek. Looks to me like it could 4.5 years old. Not enough wear on most cusps to be 5.5. To really be sure between 3.5 and 4.5 I would want to have it in my hand. Sometimes its tough to tell from pics although I think you did a pretty good job taking them. Nice doe, congrats!:nod: Well stated!

**Frost Bite**
December 31st, 2008, 10:38 AM
Here is a guide that I had in my booksmarks too! :)

http://www.wildlifemanagement.info/files/deer_31.pdf

dartonfan
December 31st, 2008, 12:29 PM
Do you have to use the bottom jaw to judge the age, or will the top jaw work equally well? I have a few skull mounts I would like to know the age on.

Thanks

mbw1924
December 31st, 2008, 04:37 PM
i believe the bottom jaw is the only way to age them. im just not as good as some of these guys on here so i ask them.

Beamen123
December 31st, 2008, 04:40 PM
I'm very impressed Paul. Well said! :)


The lingual cusps on the first molar are slightly rounded but still distinct, the dentine is wider than the enamel, which means at least 3.5. To get to 4.5 the detine band will be at least as wide or wider in the 2nd molar (5th tooth) which it looks like it is. Light/Moderate wear on all premolars and the last cusp of the third molar is starting to wear towards the cheek. Looks to me like it could 4.5 years old. Not enough wear on most cusps to be 5.5. To really be sure between 3.5 and 4.5 I would want to have it in my hand. Sometimes its tough to tell from pics although I think you did a pretty good job taking them. Nice doe, congrats!

WNY Bowhunter
December 31st, 2008, 04:42 PM
Congrats, that's one big slickhead! As for her age, I'd say she's definately as old as she's gonna get...:D. I'll go with 4.5 too. There's just not enough wear for her to be any older.