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  1. Short answer is that I believe he did, bit I also...

    Short answer is that I believe he did, bit I also believe that he sold the rights to the press, or at least to market it and the draw board attachment to Specialty Archery. There was a thread awhile...
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    Um...I wasn't asking you any questions, other...

    Um...I wasn't asking you any questions, other than the whole lighter arrow penetrated farther then a heavier one, and inviting a discussion of why. You answered the simple why, but didn't really want...
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    Speaking of taking themselves way to...

    Speaking of taking themselves way to seriously...:doh:
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    Had to go read through that whole thread... ...

    Had to go read through that whole thread...

    You honestly think I and MSegal are the same? lol

    I went from believing in the advantages of single bevels in this thread, and that one,...
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    Because I'm bored...let's look at this a...

    Because I'm bored...let's look at this a little...



    Here's #43:



    Pretty simple non-confrontational statement which was absolutely true...with a lot of emos, which should be a clue.
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    A valuable lesson born of personal...

    A valuable lesson born of personal experience...also amazed at how prophetic, yet unsympathetic old-school ranchers can be.

    Also appreciate the honesty of yours.
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    But my arrows will be going so fast the hydraulic...

    But my arrows will be going so fast the hydraulic shock will cause him to go hooves up anyway...
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    I'll go so far as to say that is what I believe,...

    I'll go so far as to say that is what I believe, and what my theory is...but I almost always hate to get cornered with absolutes...:darkbeer::wink:

    And I'll double down on that...I anticipate...
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    I was talking about fixed heads in my first post....

    I was talking about fixed heads in my first post. The same applies to mechs IMO (aside from some of the other things lie the robbed energy). I believe it has more to do with the blade angle than...
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    I hoped the winky was a clue. :darkbeer: ...

    I hoped the winky was a clue. :darkbeer:

    Absolutes are almost always (see what I did there) a bad thing. There are just so many different variables that factor in.
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    One more addition...I swore off 2 blade double...

    One more addition...I swore off 2 blade double bevels a number of years ago. The blood trails stunk, and considering my red/green issues, it made it worse. So, when I was afforded the opportunity...
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    I can agree that the pics show a heck of a hole. ...

    I can agree that the pics show a heck of a hole. I don't know if the head spun or not, and can't tell from the pics (too small), but have no reason to doubt what you have said. I have no idea if it...
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    For purposes of comparative discussion...

    For purposes of comparative discussion only...steeply angled multi-blade heads (ST, QAD, etc.) also exhibit the same 'splash' affect. Wound channel larger than the head itself, especially with the...
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    Agreed...especially on the variables, and what...

    Agreed...especially on the variables, and what venue/purpose the bow is being used for with the type of sight.

    However, the standard close your eyes-draw-anchor-open your eyes is at best a general...
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    That was the point back on page 2...but some...

    That was the point back on page 2...but some folks missed the forest on that...:wink:
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    lol.

    lol.
  17. Personally, I prefer the Father for both...more...

    Personally, I prefer the Father for both...more expensive, but I like the dovetail attachment for sight length, and I thought the Boss was 'rougher' than the Father or Tommy. Which makes sense...
  18. Poll: I'm beginning to think that it is...:wink:

    I'm beginning to think that it is...:wink:
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    And the advantages and benefits they potentially...

    And the advantages and benefits they potentially provide to people who use lighter equipment cannot be ignored either...:behindsof

    Who knew...:ROFLMAO:
  20. Yes, yes you can. This is also a...

    Yes, yes you can.



    This is also a possibility.
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    Wait what...individual bias prevents rational...

    Wait what...individual bias prevents rational discussion of things because folks feel personally insulted whenever someone dares to say something that isnot comprehended and interpreted to challenge...
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    No...I'm pretty sure I have emphasized the need...

    No...I'm pretty sure I have emphasized the need for "all else to be equal" when trying to determine a single penetrating factor. But of course, relying on a single penetrating factor alone is a...
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    So...how many times did you shoot the individual...

    So...how many times did you shoot the individual heads (Helix 125 and VPA 150) each with the same arrow from the same bow into bone?

    And if you had actually shot each 500 times, I'd say your...
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    Well...I'm really not trying to make anyone think...

    Well...I'm really not trying to make anyone think anything...I think the test speaks for itself...the lighter arrow did out penetrate the heavier one...and that VPAs should not be used with the test...
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    Well...you first told me to go buy something I...

    Well...you first told me to go buy something I already owned, which I already said I owned, but anywho...
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    Gotcha...but you do have some data or results...

    Gotcha...but you do have some data or results that support you statement that you have shot these same heads with these same arrows from the same bow through bone a 100 or so times, right?

    50 per...
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    Seriously, have you only read what you wanted to...

    Seriously, have you only read what you wanted to read in my posts? This is not a trick question. Why would I run out and heads that I can walk to my basement and look at?

    Let me make this...
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    Not sure what that thread had to do with the...

    Not sure what that thread had to do with the number of times the same heads were shot on the same arrow from the same bow into bone...that thread had more to do witha bet to see which would perform...
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    And the material used to manufacturer and the...

    And the material used to manufacturer and the treating, and the ____________. It seems we are finally getting somewhere...and Yeah, I've read a lot about mehanical advantage already...

    But...can...
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    Why not publicize the previous results? I'm...

    Why not publicize the previous results? I'm really curious why you found it necessary to do a couple more shots with the exact same equipment to publish the findings, when you had already done it...
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