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  1. Steve, VAP's are a much better value than C1's...

    Steve, VAP's are a much better value than C1's IMO. My wife's "cheap" V6 VAP's are still better than the C1's some of my students have used (before I advised them to switch). QC on C1's is just...
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    And I agree with you here. The line is a lot...

    And I agree with you here. The line is a lot sloppier than it was when I started in 2004. And some of our "elites" are the worst offenders, but in the case of one of them, it was on purpose, to...
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    Mike, you know full well that this: Is how...

    Mike, you know full well that this:



    Is how this:



    happens. ;)
  4. First of all, I am not sure I'd recommend an...

    First of all, I am not sure I'd recommend an archer pay for V1 VAP's unless they were shooting 300+ at 70 meters. My wife's arrows are V6's (.006 straightness) and our preliminary 30M bare shaft...
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    Nick Faldo - World Golf hall of famer and popular...

    Nick Faldo - World Golf hall of famer and popular MAJOR NETWORK TV commentator - just said "I liked him (Boo Weekley) in camouflage. Maybe we need more camouflage."

    ROTF...!

    This from a...
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    Yes. 28# at 28" is a solid 1200 spine spec. My...

    Yes. 28# at 28" is a solid 1200 spine spec. My wife just came off that and bumped up to 30#@29" She now shoots 1000 spine VAP's. Grouped all 12 - without fletching - in a 10" circle from 30...
  7. I agree, and if the NFAA had a coaching and youth...

    I agree, and if the NFAA had a coaching and youth achievement program, I doubt I would have ever got involved in USArchery in the first place. It was through my older kid's JOAD program that I...
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    Well it seems that the most popular sports in the...

    Well it seems that the most popular sports in the TV world (professional football, baseball, college football, etc.) have ZERO problem with seeing camo on their athletes.
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    Don't fall for it. It's not true. Not here in...

    Don't fall for it. It's not true. Not here in the U.S. at least, and from the sound of it, not in Aus. either.

    Besides the logic above is pretty absurd if you ask me. We're okay with KEEPING a...
  10. Yes. 22" But with those 2000 XR's I've had kids...

    Yes. 22" But with those 2000 XR's I've had kids shooting arrows from 22" to full length, and 18 to about 24 lbs. There really isn't anything else that they can shoot at those weights and lengths,...
  11. They could be. If so, pardon the mistake.

    They could be. If so, pardon the mistake.
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    Maybe I shouldn't be so surprised, but it's...

    Maybe I shouldn't be so surprised, but it's incredible to me how some people take these rules so personally.

    I came out of the "trad" ranks to shoot target archery years ago, and thought I had...
  13. Arrow Selection "rules of thumb" for Oly. recurves

    I get about 3-5 PM's a day here, and another 2-3 emails a week about selecting arrows for recurves and barebow rigs.

    I thought it may be helpful to post some general "guidelines" I have stored...
  14. 1200's generally tune from a 28# bow at 28" of...

    1200's generally tune from a 28# bow at 28" of length, with reasonable (50-80 grain) point weights.

    1000 spine arrows generally tune from 30# bows at 29", with points in the 60-90 grain range.
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    And I'm still waiting on that phone call Jason. ...

    And I'm still waiting on that phone call Jason. You have my number.
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    Since I was a member of NFAA before I was a...

    Since I was a member of NFAA before I was a member of USArchery, which one do you mean? :D

    We're working on fixing the "problem" within USArchery and NFAA at the same time. But instead of...
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    Honestly, this is one reason the barebow crowd is...

    Honestly, this is one reason the barebow crowd is so enjoyable. :D
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    Yes. And we need MORE of this in our JOAD/AA...

    Yes. And we need MORE of this in our JOAD/AA programs.

    Yamamoto is a highly decorated and greatly respected archer in Japan. To see him engage in this sort of play is refreshing. It would be...
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    Another way of looking at this is that folks...

    Another way of looking at this is that folks believe in shooting barebow under WA Barebow rules SO MUCH, that they are even willing to play in an organization that has traditionally given them very...
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    I love the way you think. :D ha, ha. Again,...

    I love the way you think. :D ha, ha.

    Again, defining what is or is not "camo" is going to be entertaining to watch. Esp. when most of the field judges who work USArchery events have closets...
  21. Bob, if it makes you feel better, you can be the...

    Bob, if it makes you feel better, you can be the first one to turn me in when I show up on the field with a camo finger sling.

    As far as character goes, there was this fellow named Martin Luther...
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    Jason, if you would stop focusing on your fervent...

    Jason, if you would stop focusing on your fervent defense of the NFAA for a moment, and just look at the facts for what they are, you'd realize that even despite USArchery not supporting barebow to...
  23. Okay. Thank you. Now I'm done here.

    Okay. Thank you.

    Now I'm done here.
  24. Another Good Lord moment. :rolleyes: Now who's...

    Another Good Lord moment. :rolleyes: Now who's badgering?

    And you still haven't answered my question.

    If you go to a tournament and score 20 arrows but not the next 16, what score do you...
  25. You didn't answer my question (naturally). So...

    You didn't answer my question (naturally). So you're saying I am wrong? Fine. Then please explain what rule is being broken if you can, Bob. I'm all ears. If you go to a tournament and shoot 20...
  26. Oh good lord. I knew I opened a can of OCD worms...

    Oh good lord. I knew I opened a can of OCD worms when I wrote that. :rolleyes:

    We're talking about something that happens literally 5 times in a whole year. At our last pin party, we awarded...
  27. If you were at our club, and saw this happen...

    If you were at our club, and saw this happen real-time, it would make more sense. Trust me.
  28. When they do this - and it's not often - they do...

    When they do this - and it's not often - they do complete their scorecard. They just have 16 consecutive misses. :D

    Look, we don't have a lot of daylight on Monday evenings, and sometimes I get...
  29. Let's not get too uptight over a 15 year old...

    Let's not get too uptight over a 15 year old shooting at 20 meters. ;)
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    True. But you were looking for numbers. And...

    True. But you were looking for numbers. And despite USArchery virtually ignoring barebow archers for the past few decades, they still get significant numbers. This is what John and I are trying to...
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