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    Your article is misleading. The author knows this...

    Your article is misleading. The author knows this and that is why I am sure he omitted that it is not a church but for profit wedding chapel. Which is not a Church. While the owners are in deed...
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    His voice isn't but all he is seeking is worship...

    His voice isn't but all he is seeking is worship of himself. So did it say he didn't pay taxes? I wasn't going to watch 29 minutes of crazy boy. And his elevators or whatever his fan club calls...
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    Not gonna do it his voice creeps me out it's like...

    Not gonna do it his voice creeps me out it's like nails on a board. I'll take your guys word on it, was hard enough to listen to the little bit of the video ya posted.
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    Sweet.

    Sweet.
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    I'm not sure that Joel is not saying that you...

    I'm not sure that Joel is not saying that you have to saved ....it's sounds more lie he is saying I'm not the judge on that. god is....but truthfully I'm not up on all Joel says.
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    Maybe maybe not..... Do you agree all,things...

    Maybe maybe not.....


    Do you agree all,things are possible with god?
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    He sad he agreed that Jesus is the way but he is...

    He sad he agreed that Jesus is the way but he is not the judge god is. So what is the issue in that? It is true isn't it?
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    No hayman you made a statement so you either have...

    No hayman you made a statement so you either have to show it to be true or not. By saying do your own homework you're showing me you have no proof. In simple term put up or shut up.
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    So in that video joel says he agree the only way...

    So in that video joel says he agree the only way is through Jesus, but he is not the one to judge as he doesn't know mans hearts only god does

    And you disagree with that?
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    So he preaches that or he doesn't

    So he preaches that or he doesn't
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    Ok, so still not getting this, how does he...

    Ok, so still not getting this, how does he preach about self-spirituality and god at the same time.

    I've not listen to much of his stuff. I do see a few shared post on facebook mostly those...
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    Olsteen gets tax free benefits? Can you show them...

    Olsteen gets tax free benefits? Can you show them to me ?
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    Yes he does. What you mean he shouldn't have 10...

    Yes he does. What you mean he shouldn't have 10 million dollar mansion....but I'm pretty sure god wants him to have that. ....if you skied him I bet he' agree.


    What things do you disgree with...
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    What is new ageism I've heard the word but never...

    What is new ageism I've heard the word but never in the context of A Christian.
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    I'll send you a pm.... Yes local but of a...

    I'll send you a pm....


    Yes local but of a larger denomination....
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    And Dawkins doesn't he do the same? He writes...

    And Dawkins doesn't he do the same? He writes many books about God to sell to the anti-god people.... no need to do that he could simply write only about evolutionary biology with out the god...
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    hmmm so things turned out well for them given...

    hmmm so things turned out well for them given their riches?


    if it's not riches you dislike about Olsteen message then what is it?
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    What wait you mean God doesn't want me to be rich...

    What wait you mean God doesn't want me to be rich and successful.... are you sure?????
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    I guess I look at it a bit different if one is...

    I guess I look at it a bit different if one is called by the lord to do ministry how in the he heck can they think they should be paid to visit their congregant in the hospital. That goes with the...
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    Olsteen and wife IIRC do not accept salary from ...

    Olsteen and wife IIRC do not accept salary from he church they make money form their books sales and such. See post to cobowhntr.


    Course what does modestly mean.....
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    That makes sense. Olsteen and wife make their...

    That makes sense. Olsteen and wife make their earning from their books, I don't think they take money from the churches coffers. Warren might be that way as well not sure, Franklin Graham has been...
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    All....of them This is just a general question...

    All....of them This is just a general question I'd like to see how you guys answer I will explain why I'm asking other then Stic and Elvis bringing it up


    I mean Is/was Billy Graham a personality...
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    no I'm not looking for scripture but your opinion...

    no I'm not looking for scripture but your opinion on this.....

    Where is the line drawn for you....you can even show me how in the scripture you base you number for m that.....


    Is it a pastor...
  24. sounds as if you're saying that being a...

    sounds as if you're saying that being a politicians is meant mostly for the likes of the "bad" people....


    Oh boy I'm afraid this very well maybe what it has come to....
  25. Can't disagree much on the banks. Not really...

    Can't disagree much on the banks.


    Not really not for some of us.


    In my area I have many Christian democrats I'm sure you'd not agree with much of their "christian doctrine"
  26. Well now that is a good question. At this...

    Well now that is a good question.


    At this point I'm not sure with the ever mighty dollar needed to "buy" elections one must sell their "soul" to win.... so sad .....so very sad..... But even the...
  27. If your using Sarah and her family as Good...

    If your using Sarah and her family as Good Christian politician a good model ...yikes.


    Yes the media chewed them up.... however they enjoyed that very much, till recently when even Roger Ailes...
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    Where is the line draw on money grubbers? What...

    Where is the line draw on money grubbers?

    What is appropriate amount of money one is allowed to be paid or given to spread God's word?
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    :roflmao::roflmao:

    :roflmao::roflmao:
  30. You do have a good (but sad point) it is all...

    You do have a good (but sad point) it is all about the dollars even int he little local elections. with these PACs being allowed to say anything even lies to get their candidate of choice a win........
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