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  1. Poll: When Mathews starts paying him a salary then he...

    When Mathews starts paying him a salary then he will be obligated to push their bows over another brand in the shop. Until they do that he lets the customer decide what he wants to try. What is so...
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    Camo pattern that's yet unannounced and will be...

    Camo pattern that's yet unannounced and will be only available to order at the show. They are being pretty tight lipped about anything else. I would say there's something else we haven't seen yet.
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    It's no quieter than a Strother Wrath but it is...

    It's no quieter than a Strother Wrath but it is quiet. It's an updated version of an old Bear round wheel bow with an offset axle mount. It's what Matt McPherson does best. He takes an existing...
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    We set ours up at the shop. 74.2 lbs. 30 3/8...

    We set ours up at the shop. 74.2 lbs. 30 3/8 measured draw. 369 grain arrow. Loop only no peep. Hostage rest and shot through a Bow Force mapper chronograph. We got a three shot average of 310.5...
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    No different than the limb deflection angles on...

    No different than the limb deflection angles on the Monster series of bows compared to the PSE X Force limbs. I actually think there was a lawsuit brought when Mathews released the monsters.
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    22" power stroke plus 6.625 brace is 28.625. Add...

    22" power stroke plus 6.625 brace is 28.625. Add 1.75 inches for AMO standards and you get 30.375. Agreed? 30 3/8. Bow-a-Constrictor with draw and tune attachment and a retractable tape measure....
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    According to the draw board and (gasp) actual...

    According to the draw board and (gasp) actual tape measure it was just shy of 30.5. Any questions?
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    We would all love for you to point out which...

    We would all love for you to point out which Bowtechs use the AVS system with those untuneable yokes. We'll be waiting. In the meantime you should look some old Bear round wheel bows that have the...
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    HTR uses eccentric axles, similar to Bowtech and...

    HTR uses eccentric axles, similar to Bowtech and their OverDrive system. Realllllly similar thought and engineering.
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    2077588 lower cam at brace

    2077588 lower cam at brace
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    2077584
  12. No. Bow is rated 321 with 85% mods. This one has...

    No. Bow is rated 321 with 85% mods. This one has 85% mods. That's what Mathews sent the mod pack with as well. 330 with 65% 325 75% 321 85%. Ours is a half inch too long measured 30.5 and 10fps...
  13. Straight clamps don't come with a plate on them. ...

    Straight clamps don't come with a plate on them. Neither of mine came with them and haven't seen any others with them either
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    Did you figure the speed into that? 310.5 at ...

    Did you figure the speed into that? 310.5 at 30.5 measured draw with 369 grains at 74 lbs
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    Thing is the HTR doesn't draw as smooth as the...

    Thing is the HTR doesn't draw as smooth as the Chill X does and it's coming up about 10 fps slow on IBO
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    I shot the one we got in and at 30.5" measured DL...

    I shot the one we got in and at 30.5" measured DL and 74 lbs out of the box it shot 310.5 with a 369 grain arrow. Here is the DFC now. 2077569
  17. Keep your Chill X. You will be sacrificing speed...

    Keep your Chill X. You will be sacrificing speed for one and a smooth draw as well. Chill X is the better bow between the two. The HTR is shorter brace and still slower. The one we got in is...
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    2077541

    2077541
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    No. It's very close though. Biggest concern I...

    No. It's very close though. Biggest concern I can see is if your string breaks or you roll it off the cams your limbs will be toast. The post on the rock mods will come around and boom, splinters. ...
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    Initial impression is it looks similar to the...

    Initial impression is it looks similar to the Archery Research bows in shape and mass weight.
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    74.2 lbs on bow force mapper scale. I believe I...

    74.2 lbs on bow force mapper scale. I believe I just put up 74 above. That's for the nitpickers on here :)
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    No Cam HTR quick and simple review

    Came out of the box at 28/74 with 85% mods. Swapped out to the 30" 85% mods as that's the only let off mods they sent were 85%. D loop and hostage rest. 368.8 grain arrow ( closest I have to 371...
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    Nope. Response wouldn't have been any different. ...

    Nope. Response wouldn't have been any different. Hoyt hasn't brought anything new. Elite is using 8 year old cam designs. If you don't like the way it looks then don't buy it. Judgement should be...
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    I've read some stupid stuff on here over the...

    I've read some stupid stuff on here over the years but this is right up there with the best of the idiotic comments
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    Mathews saved money by laying off a third of...

    Mathews saved money by laying off a third of their workforce. I think you should wait and see what Mathews brings to the table before you run your mouth about another company's equipment.
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    First he cheated on his wife, now to Elite. Good...

    First he cheated on his wife, now to Elite. Good riddance. Elite is using an eight year old cam design and really hasn't brought anything new or innovative to the table. Look at how many other...
  27. True draw length AND speed? From Mathews? Wish...

    True draw length AND speed? From Mathews? Wish in one hand. ...
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    I think I have a set of 6' s laying around. Let...

    I think I have a set of 6' s laying around. Let me check
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    Bruce, it isn't an AT popularity thing that I...

    Bruce, it isn't an AT popularity thing that I suggested the Wac'Ems. One of the best heads out there for elk and a ton of hunters agree with that statement. Yes, the ST's are noisy in flight, some...
  30. [For Sale or Trade] I have several sets of their limbs, sold a pair...

    I have several sets of their limbs, sold a pair of their carbon/foam ones a couple months back and now I'm regretting that decision as I can't find another set of those and they are backordered until...
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