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Good news for the folks that have a little lighter draw weight bow.
New for this year from Rage are newly designed 2 bladed broadheads with a cutting diamiter of an 1 1/2" instead of the 2". They also changed the way the blades fit and make them easy to be changed. I am not sure when they will be available yet, but once my wholesaler gets them you can bet I will have several dozen in stock!
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I like to listen how the Rage left a 2 1/2" hole and the deer ran 50 yards before dropping. I tried the Rage, they are junk, IMHO. I use Muzzy Phantoms, last bear I shot left a hole you could put your foot in, and it ran 20 feet.
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croskelley
I used the two blade model on a wildebeast, and impala in Africa. Wildebeast went about 150 yards and had 2.5" gash at entry. The Impala had complete pass through and went about 10 yards and stood there (the blood was gushing out of both sides and he was done in less than a minute. Also shot an elk in Canada with two blade and hit him a little high and too far back took out the last 2 inches of both lungs though and he died about 80 yards from where I hit him.
I used the three blade on a whitetail in here in Washington and lost him. As he ran away I could see the arrow sticking out of him so I obviously hit bone and my shot placement wasn't lack luster so I blame myself not the head. Shot a 60lb bowtech justice on all these animals. |
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I have never shot the rage. They may fly good they may work fine. I like mechs. also. My qualm is,,for what they are charging for a pack , there are far better heads out there for alot less money. jmo
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you shot a wildebeast with a 60lbs bow?? I thought there was draw weight minimum for soem of africa's big game
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Not to knock Rage but I shoot a lighter poundage bow and had penetration issues this season. The blades were not sharp enough especially the tip. Ordered some Slick Tricks and Silverflames.
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croskelley
For any of the antelope game you are safe with most tackle that we use here in the states. For thicker skin game my PH wanted me to have 65-90+lb bow. I am going back in October for more animals and a Giraffe. I guess the skin on the Giraffe can reach 2" thick. For this next trip I am going to use a Bowtech 82nd set at 71 lbs. The PH wanted close to 100 fp of energy. I will also be using rage broadheads on all the other game, but will be using a two blade fixed for the Giraffe.
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Whats the best
Whats the best vanes to use with a rage 3 blade??????? 2" blazer or 4" quick spin? 350cx maxima or 400?
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I just shoot 2 inch blazers (the camo and white zebra striped ones seem to work best
)I dont think fletching will be an issue unless you use a fixes blade that has a lot of surface area that could plane. |
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Rage Heads
Earlier I mentioned that the two blade model had issues with the blades falling out due to compression of the roll pin and lost tension. The other day I noticed that the replacement packs of blades come with a new solid spiral threaded pin which replaces the compression pin. I just might have to give them a try now. Seriously I applaud the guys who reconize a problem and improve the design.
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nc hunter 287, if it's mechanical it will fail, were , when and how often is the question. if the hit was in the vitals, any and I any any fixed blaed would have given a better result.
How many more will you loose, heaven only knows. But a Fixed blade would have worked ! there are some really good fixed heads, you might want to try some of them, G5 makes the montec and striker, both great fly very good and will be open when they get there, nap crossfire, razorback are also superb. steel force phat head, muzzy phantom, stinger boss and bullet, shuttle t lock, these are just the heads I have used or have first hand knoweledge of their use and results, do you get 3" groups at sixty with your mechanical? some of these blades will do it all the time, and there are others. loose the loss, get a better blade |
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I got a doe with a fixed bladethis last year. Hit it right be hind the shoulder. tracked her for a good 200 yards. No deer? How is this possiable dont ask me. Ending up kill the deer 3 months later during gun season. wound right behind the front shoulder arrow came out right above the heart. How did this happen?
It seems to me like everyone blames the mechanical head but what if that deer just reacted to the shot and the vitals moved as the arrow entered. This is what the doe I shot did arrow passed right though. She moved her lungs...If it was my choice a fixed blade should stop half way through and tear the inside up as the deer runs away but this cant always happen. I switch to mechanicals for the rest of the season. All broadheads work if you hit the deer in the right spot. |
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Has anyone used these on turkeys? Wondering how they perform on a gobbler.
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Rage 2-Blade
I've had both great and not-so-great success.
I've taken four whitetails using the rage 2-blade. Three of them went down within sight and one of those was a bad hit. Re: The fourth deer... The blades never opened - Thankfully it was a lung hit and the deer eventually went down. ...300 yards later. In my case, the only reason I can come up with that prevented the blades from opening, is the temperature. The first three deer were taken in temps above freezing. The fourth deer was taken in -10 degree wind chill. The smallest bit of moisture in the broadhead could have easily prevented it from opening. This is my theory - not proven. If that is the case, it is equally important to keep your gun powder and your broadheads dry. ;-) |
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rageh.h.
I ntried em in 08. 60#mathews drenalin. 27``d.l.300grn arrow@285fps. shot a nice doe @ 25 yds. arrow went thru both sides,fletching sticking out of deer l.side. recovered deer poor blood trail. #25pt buck 15`(feet) arrow w/rage bounced out of the l.shoulder no recovery. imediately went bac to fixed b.h.`s. shot a buc+doe both w/pass thru`s @18+22yds. Its my belief to shoot a large cutting head like a rage U got 2 have a lot of horse pwr. under your hood, like 70# or more. I was as was several others I hunt with Very dissapointed w/the rage. I also don`t like the fact that they open while knoc`d if U bump your arrow sometimes even while just knocking your arrow. good luc w/em. bob b.
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i have been using the the two blade rage for the last two seasons. shot three bucks anywhere between fifteen and thirty yards. none went more than 60 yards from the place where i let the arrow go. the only thing i do not like is the attention you need to pay if you do bump something with the arrow. other than that two thumbs up for sure
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forgot to mention that my 101st is at 62#s.
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I honestly dont believe in mechanicals, because i have heard some stories of them failing at the moment of truth, so i stick with a fixed blade that has the same kind of accuracy, like the SLick Trick broadhead, i can put 3 arrows in a 3 inch group at 40 yards with these, and every deer i have shot has gone down with in 100 yards, the farthest being 40 yards away.
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I have used fixed and the rage 3 blade ...no problems with the rage , from what I have shot the rage will make a larger hole than any fixed head that ive shot ....But you can use a feild tip and kill a deer if ya get both lungs not that i would ...but it could be done...the deer I shot this past season with the rage , when I gutted them there lungs came out like mush ...just like you had shot them with a rifle ..so I'll be useing them again this year...mabe even try the 2 blade .
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Rage
I think the 3 blade is best for more penetration. All the deer I shot with it had huge holes in them. I was initially against mechanicals but these are a lot different especially on shots that would deflect the previous generation of mechanicals.
On a non broadside shot, the blade that opens first is the one away from the body of the animal so it allows the tip to keep going in straight. In the other styles, the first blade to open would be between the tip and the animal thereby creating a lever to deflect the shot. I have had fixed blades plane and or fly differently than field tips. My only complaint is that when jarred, the blades can jump the o-ring. They pop right back though. |
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Love them. Shot 3 blade Muzzy's for years and there is nothing wrong with them, but wanted to see what the excitement was about. From the sound they make on impact to the blood trail unlike any other I have seen (second deer shot I could see the trail in the leaves from my tree 20 yards out), they are my broadhead of choice. Also shot my buck this past year and hit him right in the shoulder. Passed through almost the whole way (only the fletching sticking out) and he only went about 40 yards. Three blader out of a 60Lb Bowtech Guardian on Carbon Express Maxima Hunters. Not flying superfast, but definitely getting the job done.
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Rage
Yea, they sound like your breaking a board on impact. I shoot at 56 lbs and do some damage with the 3 blades!
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I used three blade rage 2 years ago and had no problem what so ever. Unless an 8 inch hole is a problem(quartering away hard) This past year I switched to G5 montecs and they were horrible. No blood trail on the four deer I shot at all. This year I'll be trying the 2 blade rage......sux that they are 40.00. Thats why I switched in the first place.
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I purchased a pack of rage three-blades but the blades were so dull I returned them. Assuming that it was a manufacturing defect, I purchased another set but it turned out to be just as dull. I decided that maybe I could sharpen them myself, so I went outside to practice with the included practice tip. What a piece of junk! On the first shot into a foam block target, one of the three "practice" blades broke off. I didn't even try shooting it again, just returned the whole pack for a refund. I wonder if I had bad luck with a bad batch, or if there is a serious quality control issue.
I wanted to shoot mechanicals because they fly more like field tips. Through trial and error, I discovered that mechanicals can fly just as good on an arrow with helical fletching. Currently I'm shooting Magnus Stinger 4-blades, on axis arrows with four 3-inch vanes (helical). I no longer have to pick out the straightest arrows to know that they will fly true... they all fly like field tips. I will never try mechanicals again. |
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My rage 3 blade appeared dull but I assure you it did the trick. As far as your practice blade goes that is weird......were you shooting intoo concrete or something....lol.
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All I know about the Rage is I saw Randy Ulmer have one open up on him at the ATA show this year during the 100 yard challenge. He missed the target by about 10 feet. No sir, no rage for me. I think I will stick with the Atom or another type of mechanical like Trufire's new piston driven one. Just my .00001 Peso
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I have
I have used mec's since they first come out and used all diff kinds with a miss hap THEY FLY TRUE my fixed blades wonder could never get them tuned and due to the wondering back then some bad shots w made and now with the speed of bows they really like to go on trips to on knowen destinations Back then they said they dont open now they tell you they open in flight use what you like the critter your shooten doesnt know the diff my 2 blade rage KILL everything from moose to bears here in ONT. and leave a wicked hole
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First of all I tried Rage two blades and didn't like them. Having said that I don't understand how anyone can hit a perfect shot behind the shoulder with these heads and say they didn't deploy. The animal will die if the arrow goes through the lungs! A field point would kill a deer if hit there.It takes so little energy to deploy these heads.
I didn't like the way they flew out of my x force at 75 pounds. I would get a flyer now and again. I switched to spitfires. Maybe it was a tuning issue or the odd head would open up in flight.I just wasn't comfortable shooting them. Not bashing just my .02
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I used the rage 2 blade this last year. It did great and took my elk down in nothing flat. It left a gaping hole in my deer also. But here is the thing. If you are sitting in a treestand (which I was when I shot my elk) they are great but out west here we are doing alot of stalking and hiking. Rage heads are not the ticket here. The blades pop open and give me grief. The slightest bump and I have to fix them. This does not work for long stalks in the sage brush. This year I am going back to the Grim Reaper. If rage could fix this one issue they would have something great.
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I know this post is old but here is my 2 cents worth from last years brief use.
When a broadheads blade come loose in your quiver while waliking it makes you wonder what they will do when launched at 300 + FPS. When you are watching TV and you see a hunters quiver full of broadheads with blades dangling loose do you wonder? Couple that with the magnet of an easton tracer knock! D I S A S T ER! It just so happens that one blade opens as shot causing it to plane about 24" to the left... As a result a 150 class gets it in the rear leg and is found by another hunter shed hunting. Is it repeatable? Yes! In a controlled environemt every shot afterwards thru a paper tunner then onto foam a target with actual Rage Broadheads (not practice tips) was 24-30" left and 8-10" low. (Shooting thru paper tunner shows that one blade was open in flight each time.) Do I have this problem with a Tekan? NOPE!
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down at Predators the one in gilroy not what you see on dateline NBC has actually quit carrying the 3 blade rage. They say they have had problems not opening. The two blade Rage they say sometimes opens but they have come up with a fix. they said to cut a tiny piece of peep tubing ( like an o -ring but slimmer) and use tweezers to open tubing and slip over rage . the tubing breakes on impact
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I shot a doe with the 2 blade a little back but found her the next morning piled up. I did switch to the 3 blade though, I like the added insurance of that 3rd blade. I haven't had a problem with them not opening though. Every deer that I have shot has fell within 50 yards.
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They are Garbage!!!!!!!
I shot a buck this morning and I cannot reccomend these broadheads. I'm shooting 67 pounds. I hit him quartering away behind left shoulder and had some blood at the scene. The blood trail was non-existent. I found him 125 yards away (thank God!). I am Done with mechanicals! One other thing too, the blades (two blade version) constantly open up. So, if you had a follow up shot, one would have to squeeze the blades to reset them. I thought about giving the other 5 away but I think it is far more ethical to just throw them in the garbage, which is exactly what I am going to do.
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I've been using the rage 3 blades for a couple years now, and have had complete passthroughs on each deer i've shot, one problem i did have though, one blade opened in flight, causing arrow to veer off target, could have been my fault for not checking blades when nocking arrow.
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A friend of mine forgot to change back to the broadhead and left the practice point on his arrow and of course it didn't open but fortunately, he got a good shot anyway and the deer went down. 150 yards but it went down. I shot one with 2 blade and it went maybe 20 yards and he crashed. I had been shooting with spitfire 3 blade but couldn't shoot quartering shots due to the blade configuration. I had to pass up some great deer due to the quartering problem.
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I've taken 6 or 7 deer with the 2 blade, without any issues. Have had a couple of misses in the past, and you always wonder why. Not blaming it on the broadhead.
Love the idea of rear opening expandables, and will try some others. Probably go to the G5 tekan next... It appears to me that the Rage 2 blade is probably the #1 selling head today. Perhaps due to marketing, but lots of us have had great success using this head also. |
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I have shot 7 deer with the 2 blade rage and never lost one!!! Anyone not wanting thier left over rage's, let me know. I'll take all these "junk" broadheads I can get!!! A bad hit is a bad hit with any broadhead!!! I have lost them with wasp and muzzy fixed blades but never with a rage. I think some folks just have trouble tracking if there is not a easy blood trail to follow but, who would admit that, right?
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