All Supertec Shooters, Past Or Present!!

[TOOL]

I'm thinking of grabbing a used supertec for my wife. But before I do, I'd like to know EVERYTHING about them. Is the draw adjustable (it has spiral cams, I think)? Is it hard to shoot with such a low brace height (she's still working on her form)? How about vibration? Noise? Shock? Does the bow jump? Thanks guys whatever you can tell me, would help.

[Jasen W]

I see you haven't got any replies, so I will give you my 2 cents worth.
I don't have a supertec. I have a turbotec.
They are essentially the same bow, only the turbotec has flames integrated in the riser.
The spiral cams are not adjustable. Many people are concerned with them
having a short brace height. With shorter draws, I have found that brace height is not all that it's cracked up to be. I have determined that shorter brace height is actually a benefit to the short armed shooters.
In my opinion, they are very smooth to shoot. However, if you talk to some of the "wiser" folks here, they will say they are too wild and unshootable.
They are fast. I can tell you that for sure. I don't know what your wife's draw is but this would be a good bow if you are looking for speed.

They aren't quiet as church mice. However, you can quiet them down substantially with limb savers and all the other good stuff.
Mine doesn't vibrate at all.
My letoff is 65%. I guess if you are used to shooting 80% you may think it's a bit jumpy. I'm unsure if you can get them in 80%.

I am very displeased that HOYT discontinued making them.
I love mine.

Good luck.
-Jason

[Kermit]

Originally Posted by TOOL

I'm thinking of grabbing a used supertec for my wife. But before I do, I'd like to know EVERYTHING about them. Is the draw adjustable (it has spiral cams, I think)? Is it hard to shoot with such a low brace height (she's still working on her form)? How about vibration? Noise? Shock? Does the bow jump? Thanks guys whatever you can tell me, would help.

Spirals, I'd say, are a bad choice. Cam and 1/2s are a different matter. Need to check on that before you commit yourself.

I do not shoot a supertec, but spirals are scary for beginners. Draw length is not adjustable. No valley to speak of. Have to shoot off of the wall and if you allow yourself to creep the least bit, the bow practically snatches your release out of your hand. Being is so aggressive, your wife probably would have to shoot something like 5 pounds lighter with it than with a soft cam. Think that she can handle the weight?

[BOWGOD]

i'll give you the ins and outs of what i know.
first off the spiral cams are draw length specific they do adjust down about a half an inch by moving the draw stop peg but this also decreases the let off.
set in the longest draw length they are 65% let off and go down from there. i've tried to shoot mine at the lower let off and i will admit it is tough.
spiral cams are not for everyone. i shoot them on all my bows and i love them (i couldn't think of shooting a different cam system) but in the begining there was some getting used to. if your wife is new to shooting and still working on achieving good form the spirals may just get frustrating for her. hoyt even posted i their catalog that the spirals are not for everyone, for an experienced shooter i think they are great but for an inexperienced shooter they may ruin the fun.

as for the brace height like previously posted shorter brace heights for shorter draw lengths ar not nessaserily a bad thing. a 6 inch brace height for a 24 inch draw would perform much like a 8 inch brace height for a 30 inch draw. it kinda balances it's self out with size. but the on thing you need to watch for is if there is a form issue a shorter brace height will be more apt to do some arm smacking and i can tell you from experience that that will ruin the day for a lady real quick.

so to sum it up. if your wife has been shooting for a little while and your confident enough in her form as is to maintain decent form through out the shot and maintain good back tension (this is important when shooting spirals the slightest let up in back tension and they want to go like now) then it could be a very good bow for her. it will give her exellent speed wich is ussually pretty hard to get for a woman. and the spiral will make her either give up or become a better shooter. just take this one point into heavy consideration get the bow set to shoot less poundage than she has been shooting. the key to loving the spirals is finding the right weight. i used to shoot 65 pounds when i went to spirals i cut back to 54. i know it seems like a big drop but my speeds are the same if not better at the low weight and they are a dream to shoot. i tried them at 60 and hated them cut back to 54 and they are smooth as a babies bottom. the extra few pounds can really mean the difference between loving them and hating them.

good luck
dave

[ursonvs]

i suggest going with a bow that has a adjustable cam. if you think say she is a 25" dl, try and find a bow she'll like with a draw range a inch below and above that starting measurement.

another thing to think about is poundage range. if she can yank the cams off a 40/50 bow 2 or 5 times in a row I wouldn't go buying a 50/60 bow, get a 40/50. repetition is the name of the game.

[Ole Fat Boy]

Edited quote;

'The Hoyt Supertec is one of the most successful bows that there has ever been. It was the first bow in the UK to ever shoot the legendary score of 1400 on the FITA round. It has been/is shot by many members of the British team. Both Chris White and Michael Peart have shot the Supertec and considered it to be one of the best bows they had ever shot.'

In addition to this the Supertec is the fastest bow I have ever had or used. Its AMO speed is over 330 feet per second. It has one of the best narrow slim line torque free grips you can have and the Tec design eliminates 95% of shot vibration compared with other bows. The limbs are the almost indestructible Hoyt patented XT2000 carbon limbs and the cams are the solid machined aluminium Spiral cams, Hoyts fastest ever cams.

One of the best Hoyt ever produced but I think it's a bow for an experienced archer.

[mdnky]

I'd be very cautious recommending a SuperTec or TurboTec to someone who didn't have a lot of experience under their belt. In all honesty, you can find plenty of bows out there (some 2 years old) that shoot the same/similar speed, but do in a nicer manner (better brace-heights, easier/smoother draws, less recoil/noise/vibs).

I bought a used SuperTec about three or four months ago to test left-handed shooting (I'm right-handed, left eye dominant), which seems to be working out. I just didn't want to was $800 on something new at that time.

For the most part I haven't had too many problems with it, but I'm not going to say it was very easy either. As previously mentioned, good form and metrics (back tension, follow through, etc.) are absolute necessities.

I came from shooting an XI Flatliner, so the roughness (or whatever you want to call it) of the cams isn't a big deal for me.


The cams are draw length specific, so you would need to find replacements for length changes. The Hoyt Tune Charts can tell you what model cam you'll need. Actually finding the cam may be a bit difficult, especially if its not a common size.

[killshot1]

I am fairly new to archery (3 years) so what I can tell you about my experience may help you with your decision. My first bow was a PSE and I was unhappy with it to say the least. To be fair it was an older bow. When I went to look at new bows, the supertec had the best feel to me so with only a little shooting experience and poor shooting tecniques I walked out of the store with it. I love not having a valley, it makes me feel like I'm shooting the same way every time. After a little practice I was showing dramatic improvement and started spliting arrows every couple of days from 25 yards with a 28" draw legnth. I usually shot a group of 3 arrows in 1.5" pattern at 25 yards and within 3" at 30 yards. This is just my case and limited to what I know, but if she has a short draw length she should use brace height to her advantage exspecially if she will be hunting with it. Noise wibration and shock are wery minimal with my bow. (62 lbs. 28" draw 383gr arrow)

[Stuka1166]

The Super Tec has an AMO of 330 ????

Isn't AMO using a heavier arrow and less draw wt then IBO ????

If that's the case...The Super Tec should rival the Black Knight II and Black Max II, not to mention the APA Black Mamba !!!

[TOOL]

Thanks for the replies. I had already decided she wasn't ready for it a while ago. She says she's happy with her darton, so I guess I'll wait until she's ready for an Equalizer.