September 1st, 2009, 10:14 AM
Tips for Tighter Groups!
Well I'm shooting my bow (Alien-X) with a 12 inch 14 oz b-stinger and getting much better groups. But they're still not as tight as I'd like them to be. So I thought it would be good to start a thread on "Tips for tighter groups". Just sharing things that have worked for you or any advice you can give.
i.e.-new release, new arrows, stabilizer, taking a deep breath, smaller sight pins etc.
I'm currently shooting the Alien-X with 391 grain Carbon Express Maxima Hunters. I also have the Easton axis arrows at 420 grains and want to see if they group better. I use a spot hogg .019 hogg it hunter and a Scott Wildcat release. I'm not too fond of the release but haven't had any opportunity to try anything new to see if that would help.
Well I'm sure everyone could use some advice so let's hear what you got!!
September 1st, 2009, 10:43 AM
Shoot long distance to work on your form. Don't move until you hear the arrow hit the target. Keep your grip open and relaxed. Pull trigger don't punch. Try not to blink. Shift load to your back mussels. If you hold say 15# at full draw load the bow 2-4# over that number so your release hand moves backward as the trigger is released.
September 1st, 2009, 10:52 AM
I find that I shoot my tightest groups when I keep the pin in focus with the target blurred in the background (just like focusing on the front sight on a firearm).
September 1st, 2009, 11:28 AM
Deep breaths concentrate on nothingness.
September 1st, 2009, 11:44 AM
I think I would do better doing the exact opposite. If I focus too much on the pin, I notice how much it's wobbling around!
Originally Posted by Idahodawg
On another note, shooting from 50 yards for a while will generally improve your 30 yard groups when you move up.
September 1st, 2009, 11:48 AM
Practice form, this means to have someone take pics and video of you shooting. When aiming, focus on the spot and then bring the pin to that spot. Balance between holding weight and mass weight also help a ton regarding steadiness.
September 1st, 2009, 12:39 PM
Utilizing an anchor point that is both consistent and comfortable. Archery is a game of repitition; proper and repeatable form will lead to consistent and better groups. Make sure you are not over "bowed". If you cannot extend your bow arm out and slowly draw back, then you are probably pulling too much weight. Pick a spot on the target and burn a hole in it, while letting the pin float. The pin will come to that spot if you use proper shot execution; i.e. don't punch the trigger. If shooting an index finger release, hook the trigger in the middle finger joint and pull into the back wall without moving your finger. You are using back tension to trigger the release, which should result in a surprise release. Also, remember to have fun and don't overwelm yourself. If you tackle too much at once, you will get stressed which will lead to poor shots/groups. Hope this helps.
Last edited by Barlow; September 1st, 2009 at 12:40 PM.
September 1st, 2009, 01:02 PM
In addition to above, find the right grip angle where all the pressure is on your thumb muscle WITHOUT having to twist your wrist too far downward. Some of these grips today are TOO low.
Then tune the bow and add just 1 more "consistency" to your anchor point, whether it's face contact, centering in the peep, actually using the level on your sight, etc.
September 1st, 2009, 01:27 PM
The biggest obstacle to many people for shooting tighter groups - shooting a "PROPER" draw length! Most shoot too long a draw length... even a small change can affect your ability to hold steady and shrink group size at all distances dramatically
September 1st, 2009, 02:40 PM
September 1st, 2009, 03:12 PM
Yep! I second what he said!
Originally Posted by thunderbolt
September 1st, 2009, 03:55 PM
Consistancy with your anchor point and pick a spot and focus on it. Like said before, your pin will go to the spot. But also focus on the smallest spot that you can, smaller is better and will pull your groups in tighter.
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September 1st, 2009, 04:45 PM
I suggest you get larry wise's book Core Archery. very good book on form & BT. Practice one change at a time, then move to your next change. Shooting what ever release you have with BT will help your groups.
September 1st, 2009, 04:53 PM
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September 1st, 2009, 05:17 PM
Originally Posted by RugerRedhawk
i agree. thats how your suppose to do it.
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September 1st, 2009, 05:19 PM
That it is.
Originally Posted by stixshooter
September 1st, 2009, 05:52 PM
I find I shoot smaller groups when I stand closer to the target.
But seriously, as they say, " aim small, miss small".
September 1st, 2009, 09:34 PM
great advice so far everyone. I've tried some of the things tonight and am doing much better. Thanks for all the advice and keep it coming!
September 2nd, 2009, 08:20 AM
Smaller peep and aim small
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