The Contender Elite

[N7709K]

sounds like a shooter alright, do you know the price?

[bigGP]

only one i have seen is the $1600 carbon job. I would think lil more then a Vantage but who knows.

[MrPibb]

Pro Elite and Ultra Elite fans alike will not be disapointed. In all honesty, the only difference between the Pro and Ultra was .75". The Contender Elite is a better bow. The pocket is tighter and the riser is stiffer. And trust me, it absolutly drills.

With the Contender all of you die-hard Ultratec cult members, you have your coveted geometry back in winning form.

I hope not, the Pro Elite has been the most forgiving and shootable bow for me since 2007. I had a few good outings with the Vantage Elite this yr including a win In Miss. In open A, but went back to a Pro Elite because I could find a more consistant grip that fit my style.

Is the contender a reflex or deflex configuration? Could just be in my head but I sure will miss the pro elite.

[loujo61]

only one i have seen is the $1600 carbon job. I would think lil more then a Vantage but who knows.

I can't believe YOU would mention price...

[Neuralgia]

I´m also thinking about the loss of the ProElite for all of those with longer DL (because of BH).

This one looks more like an UltreElite replacement.

For all of those asking for the specs and options:
http://www.hoyt.com/compound_bows/ho...contenderelite

or if you´re just lazy, here you go:

[Reo]

I'm sorry it took so long to get back to you all I was shooting a ton yesterday. I really played with it outdoors. It toned and the arrow flight was great. I also shot it threw the crono and was really surprised to find it faster than my VE and my Ultra I shot last year. As for the question on which limbs is what your draw length is what helps me decide that. I have 3000's on the one I'm shooting and it works great on my 28 1/2 inch draw. Hope this helps and like I said don't miss out on this bow.

Reo Wilde

[Moparmatty]

Thanks for the reports Reo. There's a bunch of us here that really appreciate your info.

My question is, why do you prefer your UE's and now CE's over the VE?

[RickinMo]

Reo, is the Contender Elite riser reflexed or neutral?
I suspect reflexxed if it is how much reflex?
Thanks
Rick

[USNarcher]

Thanks for sharing Reo, now the back order on Contenders will be 6 months.

Don't be givin Greg any tuning tips either. He doesn't need anymore help.

[Reo]

I won't say I prefer one over the other. I won Vegas with the VE. I have been using the ultra outdoors just because it shot really good when I put it together for outdoors. The new contender from what I was told is similar to the ultra in reflex but with the new more stabile pocket it should be nothing short of the best bow out there.

Reo Wilde

[Moparmatty]

Thanks Reo.

[RickinMo]

I won't say I prefer one over the other. I won Vegas with the VE. I have been using the ultra outdoors just because it shot really good when I put it together for outdoors. The new contender from what I was told is similar to the ultra in reflex but with the new more stabile pocket it should be nothing short of the best bow out there.

Reo Wilde

Thanks, Reo
I can't wait to get mine on the way

Rick

[monty53]

Just thought I would give a little report on the new bow. I shot it yesterday and all I can say is WOW! I walked into the range just set the bow up out of the box and tuned it by eye balling it. I then shot two Vegas rounds. I'm not in the best shooting shape and it held amazing. I then shot a 300 with 26x and a 300 with 29x. All I can say is Hoyt hit a home run with this one. I can't wait till the season starts. So I would have to say if your looking at getting a new target bow don't miss out on this one.

Reo Wilde

Really?.............

Was it the bow or was it the stabs?........

[bigGP]

I can't believe YOU would mention price...

I didn't say it was good or bad?? I was just passing on info??

usnarcher- Dont be worrying about what i'm doing!

[Jbird]

I can see the threads two years from now about the bows you wish you'd never sold, etc. Just a guess but I think the passing of the PE will fill a large part of those posts for field archers. The smart money is on keeping that PE till something PROVES to shoot consistantly higher scores in YOUR hands. I'm just sayin.........................

Jbird

[bullsi]

Are you using the cam.5 or the spiral x cams on your set-up, with the 3000 limbs. thanks

[bullsi]

Are you using the cam.5 or the spiral x cams on your set-up, with the 3000 limbs. thanks

[MrPibb]

I can see the threads two years from now about the bows you wish you'd never sold, etc. Just a guess but I think the passing of the PE will fill a large part of those posts for field archers. The smart money is on keeping that PE till something PROVES to shoot consistantly higher scores in YOUR hands. I'm just sayin.........................

Jbird

Not gettin rid of mine anytime soon!!!

[MrPibb]

Of course I will have to give the CE a try though.

[Neuralgia]

Brace height #s are over rated.....you can't just look at the # alone. The CE with 3000s will be very forgiving. If your looking for the bh to save you....ya need to work on your form and your shot execution.

I have owned and shot many Pros and Ultras and even the older Hyper/Super/Turbo Tecs and I shot the same scores with all of them for the most part back in the day. My scores are going back up now with the PE but it isn't because the bow has more bh then the UE. It's because I am better.....

Set the bow up and shoot a good strong shot and they go where they should if you do your part.

When you only pull 45# with a 26.5 DL, Brace Height does count, or at least plays an important part in the whole equation.

In my case, xt2000 with spirals would be the way to go, but since I don't look only at numbers, cam 1/2 was the choice I made.

This time, I guess it'll be also like this, ContElite xt2000 with c1/2... or maybe switch to Spirals? who knows, I still have to try them, and here in Costa Rica will be pretty much impossible, so I guess I'll have to wait for my next visit to the US.

PS> I'm also one of the guys that LOVE the orange version

[X-Shooter-GB]

Thanks for the reply about the limbs, Reo. I too have a 28.5 in. draw and usually shoot 3000's but was considering trying 2000's to see how they work.

[SteveID]

I want one. I would get it with 2000's but I can't get it to 32" draw length with Spiral cams. I guess I could give 3000's a shot. Decisions, decisions. Honestly I'll probably buy a Vantage.

[outback jack]

The more I see the orange color the more I like it. May eventually have to get rid of my ultra elite and swap over.

[bigGP]

I want one. I would get it with 2000's but I can't get it to 32" draw length with Spiral cams. I guess I could give 3000's a shot. Decisions, decisions. Honestly I'll probably buy a Vantage.

Being a 32" DL also i can say the Vantage Pro is the BOMB!!! I might try a Cont but the way this pro shoots makes it tough.

[outback jack]

32" DL I could wrap that back around my head when I draw it back

[xswanted]

Anybody know the price on the Contender Elite?????

[fivespotshooter]

anybody know the price on the contender elite?????

x2?

[pseshooter300]

i would guess about the same price as a pro elite.

[Neuralgia]

and that would be?

[possum trapper]

Brace height #s are over rated.....you can't just look at the # alone. The CE with 3000s will be very forgiving. If your looking for the bh to save you....ya need to work on your form and your shot execution.

I have owned and shot many Pros and Ultras and even the older Hyper/Super/Turbo Tecs and I shot the same scores with all of them for the most part back in the day. My scores are going back up now with the PE but it isn't because the bow has more bh then the UE. It's because I am better.....

Set the bow up and shoot a good strong shot and they go where they should if you do your part.

so your finially saying thats its not the equipment?thanks

[loujo61]

so your finially saying thats its not the equipment?thanks

Oh my!!!

[elkhunter130]

Reo,

How much are they going for? spiral cam, 2000 limbs

Target setup

[Reo]

I'm not sure on price that is the dealers and hoyts deal sorry.

Reo

[Honeymonster]

I don't see why this bow is better than the Ultraelite? You could get the UE with XT200o and Spiral cams too, IBO 320 fps, AND the Ultraelite is .2 lbs lighter.

[bigGP]

I don't see why this bow is better than the Ultraelite? You could get the UE with XT200o and Spiral cams too, IBO 320 fps, AND the Ultraelite is .2 lbs lighter.

I think the argument will be advances in limb pocket/riser technology slightly tweeked cams etc?

[Honeymonster]

I think the argument will be advances in limb pocket/riser technology slightly tweeked cams etc?

The Cams are the same as last year and honestly I don't think the limpockets make any difference it's just a matter of Hoyts new design.

The Vantage Elite supposed to be superior to the UE too, but even some Pros switched back to the UE. Will be the same with the CE. I don't see anything groundbreaking technology making anyone shoot better with this bow. IMO the technical aspect of target bow design is stagnant.
ATM it only matters to throw something new on the market to make people buy a new target rig.
Don't get me wrong, I enjoy buying new rigs with fresh looks too, and the orange is beguiling I have to admit, but I do not expect my scores to be affected. Personally I would have loved to see an UE in that orange, the looks of the CE is just not my cup of tea
Just my 2 cents.

[bigGP]

The Cams are the same as last year and honestly I don't think the limpockets make any difference it's just a matter of Hoyts new design.

The Vantage Elite supposed to be superior to the UE too, but even some Pros switched back to the UE. Will be the same with the CE. I don't see anything groundbreaking technology making anyone shoot better with this bow. IMO the technical aspect of target bows design is stagnant.
ATM it only matters to throw something new on the market to make people buy a new target rig. The orange is beguiling I have to admit.
Just my 2 cents.

Are they??? Dont you think some tweaking was dont to make the spiral more appealing to the average hunter ( and the speed freak) in the let off arena perhaps?

One would have to think that the longer limb pockets are more stable and therefore offer more long term accuracy/consistency? The older limb pockets where the best in the industry IMO so changing them for changes sake would make much sense unless the new ones tested better.

i do agree that getting something new to market just to get people to buy does happen (And work)..........I just cant figure out if the bows have reached the point where they cant make HUGE advances anymore or what???

[craigos]

i would guess about the same price as a pro elite.

I heard all prices are up 15% - so assume 15% over a 2009 PE or UE.

[Jbird]

I heard all prices are up 15% - so assume 15% over a 2009 PE or UE.

The prices were already sky high. As far as the limb pockets go I would bet that the if this new pocket was the pocket used for the last several years and they brought out last years pocket new in 2010 that the Hoyt engineers would be able to make just as strong a case about this being an improved pocket. Cheaper to build maybe, improved? You make the call. I will be curious to see how many people sell off their UE's and PE's to buy this "improved" UE. LOL. No doubt some will just to have the latest release from Hoyt or because the orange color is pretty. I mean some people think the Monster is an improved target bow over the Conquest 4.

Jbird

[SteveID]

Are they??? Dont you think some tweaking was dont to make the spiral more appealing to the average hunter ( and the speed freak) in the let off arena perhaps?

One would have to think that the longer limb pockets are more stable and therefore offer more long term accuracy/consistency? The older limb pockets where the best in the industry IMO so changing them for changes sake would make much sense unless the new ones tested better.

i do agree that getting something new to market just to get people to buy does happen (And work)..........I just cant figure out if the bows have reached the point where they cant make HUGE advances anymore or what???

The prices were already sky high. As far as the limb pockets go I would bet that the if this new pocket was the pocket used for the last several years and they brought out last years pocket new in 2010 that the Hoyt engineers would be able to make just as strong a case about this being an improved pocket. Cheaper to build maybe, improved? You make the call. I will be curious to see how many people sell off their UE's and PE's to buy this "improved" UE. LOL. No doubt some will just to have the latest release from Hoyt or because the orange color is pretty. I mean some people think the Monster is an improved target bow over the Conquest 4.

Jbird

You guys are both right. Specs wise it doesn't really offer much difference over the UE or PE or the VE for that matter. But how many more Ultra Elites and Pro Elites were they going to sell? Who knows, it could be far and away better than any target bow they have ever released. I'm sure it will be an awesome bow. I really want to shoot one side by side with a Vantage Elite so I can make my own judgements on which to buy.