View Poll Results: Which Is better?

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  • ILF(International Limb Fitting)

    19 76.00%
  • HDS(Hoyt Dovetail System)

    6 24.00%
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Thread: (HDS)Hoyt Dovetail System V.S The "Old" International Limb Fitting(ILF)

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    (HDS)Hoyt Dovetail System V.S The "Old" International Limb Fitting(ILF)

    I am gonna but my own Hoyt this End Of year and was wondering on what to get. Please help me, My bow's life depends on it. Thank lots



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    i don't shoot hoyt limbs anymore so ILF it is for me...
    two x-factor(25") set-ups with sure-loc supreme/ quest-x /hoyt super rest,cavalier champion II rest,beiter plunger and clicker, soma cex2 29" rod, doinker chubby backweight,fomax damper,jager grips....70" 26# samick athlete limbs..68" 34# border HEX5-H mk2 limbs..32# 68" border CXG limbs...mckinney II 725 arrows...PLUS spigarelli explorer II barebow riser..

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    sorry it is "buy my own hoyt"

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    How in the world can this poll be meaningful? Almost no one has tried the new system. Therefore the poll becomes a statement about something other than performance.

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    They are exactly the same thing.

    Hoyt has Named the limb fitting system that it invented "HDS", Hoyt has never called it "ILF"

    The New Hoyt fitting only applies to the Formula RX and the F3 and F4 limbs

    Everything else uses the same system that we used to call ILF but Hoyt calls HDS

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    +1, They're the same thing.

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    Now THIS is funny... but the poll has a purpose. it shows us who is clueless!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason22 View Post
    +1, They're the same thing.
    Maybe, just maybe this poll should have said Hoyt's "Paralever System" vs "ILF/HDS"

    Of course no one has been able to test the new system, so we really can't get any value out of this poll just yet.

    so...+2, they're the same thing

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    Hoyt has Named the limb fitting system that it invented "HDS"
    Hoyt has named the limb fitting system that it BOUGHT THE RIGHTS TO. This company certainly didn't invent the ILF. But they did invent a new name. They're good at that. It's called marketing

    I may sound a little bitter, but I think it's laughable when a company buys the rights and names of another, then makes claims like "we've been doing this for 75 years..."

    Really?

    I'm not picking on the new Hoyt either. Lots of companies do this all the time. Classic marketing strategy. Those who don't know the history will buy it hook line and sinker and it will offer them some well-purchased credibility.

    The question I keep asking is if your products are indeed the best, why do you need to make misleading claims to gain credibility? I'm sure W&W or Samick could use the same logic to make claims of hundreds or thousands of years of development in their products...

    How 'bout we just stick to the facts. But then, we might miss marketshare... ugh!

    John
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    Quote Originally Posted by limbwalker View Post
    Hoyt has named the limb fitting system that it BOUGHT THE RIGHTS TO. This company certainly didn't invent the ILF. But they did invent a new name. They're good at that. It's called marketing

    I may sound a little bitter, but I think it's laughable when a company buys the rights and names of another, then makes claims like "we've been doing this for 75 years..."

    Really?

    I'm not picking on the new Hoyt either. Lots of companies do this all the time. Classic marketing strategy. Those who don't know the history will buy it hook line and sinker and it will offer them some well-purchased credibility.

    The question I keep asking is if your products are indeed the best, why do you need to make misleading claims to gain credibility? I'm sure W&W or Samick could use the same logic to make claims of hundreds or thousands of years of development in their products...

    How 'bout we just stick to the facts. But then, we might miss marketshare... ugh!

    John
    What are you talking about? Hoyt introduced the GM in 1983. Easton bought them in 1982. So that cuurrent company is what invented the limb mount (and I would mention, a whole lot more).

    I gotta ask, someone at Hoyt whizz in your cheerios or what?

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    i think john just wanted to be more accurate in stating the facts...

    EARL HOYT JR. invented all this..NOT the current company..

    they BOUGHT earl's company and are riding on all his previous developments to market themselves which i presume is legal anyway and is a testiment to their marketing savy..

    now if only they would replace some of their spokesmen they would be more palatable to some of us here who are more familiar with what i'm referring to...
    two x-factor(25") set-ups with sure-loc supreme/ quest-x /hoyt super rest,cavalier champion II rest,beiter plunger and clicker, soma cex2 29" rod, doinker chubby backweight,fomax damper,jager grips....70" 26# samick athlete limbs..68" 34# border HEX5-H mk2 limbs..32# 68" border CXG limbs...mckinney II 725 arrows...PLUS spigarelli explorer II barebow riser..

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    they can call it Edward if they like, as long as it's still ILF dimensions who cares.

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    Yamaha, thought it wasn't ILF, had the same system for limbs (without a screw) in the Eolla. I don't know in the previous bows (YTSL, Alpha-EX, ...)
    Mathews Conquest Apex SKY TR-7 w/ Inno Ex-prime limbs
    Easton arrows w/ Beiter nocks
    Axcel 3000 Sight w/ MAC Ten Zone / Shibuya Ultima RC w/ Titan aperture
    Rest Futura Infinity/Hoyt superrest - B-Stinger/W&W HMC Plus - Tru Ball Center X release/Soma saker II

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    What

    NO one at the consumer level has tried this product or EVEN SEEN IT UP CLOSE.. seems a lot of people are just blowing wind here... give it time it might be the future, just like the automatic transmission in your car..... also some of you seem to be all over the company but aren`t those Hoyt risers in your hands in the pics... sorry Hoyt seems to set the bar for a lot of others to follow... and great they are a company that again tries new things and is not marketing same old same old.. obviously this riser is not an entry level piece of equipment.. just my thoughts and observations... happy shooting with what ever product you use...

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    it works

    the marketing I mean. Its got the archers buzzing and saying the words that archery dealers love to hear, "how is that new bow" and "Ill take one got to try that", we love a new gadget, no matter how similar. Gar.

    Let me know how it shoots, I cant afford a new one THIS year....
    So many bows, so little time

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