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Thread: The Warmbag vs HBS. My review and thoughts.

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    The Warmbag vs HBS. My review and thoughts.

    I did fine at 10 to 14 degrees on a windy day for twelve hours a couple of times this year and that was sitting in a tree stand the whole time. Put a digital thermometer in the bag and checked it a few times; it maintained 59-60 degrees the whole day. I had to keep my water bottle inside the bag to keep it from freezing.

    I wore a thin set of x-scent base layer, two pairs of walmart thermals, regular ASAT pants and shirt (cotton), and a light jacket. I used two large hand warmers on my kidneys, two on my knees (knees always get cold), and two small warmers in my shirt pocket (old farts setup; yours may vary). This may sound like a lot, but it is the same thing that I wear with the HBS under these conditions, and it is just enough to get to my stand tree without freezing or overheating in these temps.

    I also wore two layers of socks with 800 gram boots. A Loki head cover and thinsulate hat.

    As stated this is the same thing I have to wear with the HBS system. Plus with the HBS, I have to put on the heavy boot covers that come with the HBS.

    Results, I did feel more comfy in the Warmbag. It is lighter weight than the HBS, but uses dynamic thermal layer like Arctic Shield clothing (which is pretty good stuff, but bulkier and not near as warm as the WB). Plus the WB is waterproof; my HBS is not.

    I had my doubts when I got the WB at the beginning of season, but the end results changed that.

    The WB is lighter (easier to pack and carry). It is ten times easier to put on in the stand. It is a little more restrictive for my feet due to the fact that I am cocooned in a big bag instead of having legs and feet like the HBS, but it is manageable. As with any hunting product, practise makes perfect.

    My feet stayed warmer in the bag than the HBS, and I did not lose heat when I was preparing for a shot like I did in the HBS. Plus, you can sit with your arms out side of the WB for extended periods of time and stay pretty warm till your arms get cold; this is impossible with the HBS. When you unzip the HBS, all of the heat inside leaves out through the opening; by only opening the arms of the WB, most of the heat stays near your core (chest area).

    The WB seems a little noisier than the HBS, but I never got busted moving or unzipping the WB even on a 120 class 3.5yr buck that was 8 yards from my stand during bow season.. I nailed him. Noise is the only complaint I have heard from WB users, but I feel that it is only loud because the user is in such close proximity to the bag sort of like tapping on your skull with your finger seems loud to you, but no one else can hear it. Just unzip slowly or while deer are walking (same as with anything while deer hunting) and fuhgetaboudit.

    I used the HBS for three years, but I will only use the WB from now on.

    One other thing that I feel is important. The Warmbag is UV free; the HBS is a UV glow machine. The folks at HBS have been asked to not use UV brighteners in their fabric, but they refuse to go this extra step and tell folks requesting this that they don't care to do it because it doesn't matter. Been hunting for 35 years and can tell you it DOES matter in low light (dawn and dusk). The fact that they don't care about this and that the WB folks do, speaks volumes about the products.

    I killed five deer this year while wearing the WB (two mature big 9 pointers 3.5 and 5.5 years). Only lost one doe because I couldn't find the arm exit zipper string with gloves on, but that worked out because by the time I found it, I had a big 9pt, which showed up after she got out of bow range standing under me at 8 yards... as stated, I nailed him, so it's all good. Hint: practice using the WB a lot to become familiar with it.

    Got mine the only place that I think you can find them, thewarmbag.com . The WB cost less than the HBS, too. Got a pic of my 9pt mentioned earlier in their trophy room, too.

    Sorry so long, but I think you get the picture.



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    Thanks for the review..I had been back and fourth trying to decide between the two, and finally decided to pull the trigger on the WB...Cant wait..
    -Mathews DXT, Spot-Hogg Real Deal, QAD HD, STS, Limbsaver X-Coil, Vapor Trail, GT Pro Hunters, and Slick Tricks...

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    Thanks for taking the time to post a review.

    I haven't personally been looking at these but if I decide to get one i know which one to get now.

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    Your Welcome.

    Been meaning to do this for a while; just now remembered to do it while I had little extra time.

    Hope it is helpful for some folks.

    GL&GH
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    I was really wanting a HBS but now you might have changed my mind

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    Review

    Yep,
    Very helpful information.
    Thanks.

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    Glad to hear a side by side comparison.
    Hunting: 10% skill and 90% location.

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    Very nice review...thanks!

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    Wow, sounds like a great product!

    Great review. Just one question, did you ever fall asleep in your stand while wearing the Warmbag?

    I think snoring sounds like a grunt call.

    Stay warm and stay in the woods that's where the deer are.

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    Mind me asking the stand you used and the platform size?

    I certainly think this is a good product. How does with work with a safety harness?

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    Twelve hours in a stand? You better believe I sleep a little.

    That happens to me a lot. I'm lucky that hearing is the one sense that is not dulled while sleeping. Over the years I have gotten real sensitive to the sounds deer make when I am sleeping. I have had a lot of deer meet their demise while I "slept one up". For some reason squirrels or birds don't wake me, just deer or something like that; turkeys, hunters, yotes, etc.

    Killed two last year while dozing. Heard one mature buck rubbing a tree fifty yards from me. My second buck last year I heard walking in the leaves as he slipped up behind me. Talk about making you blood pump! Sort of like a good nightmare. LOL!

    The first mature buck I killed this year came in after a doe and fawn woke me when one of them stepped on a stick right under my stand; He came down the ridge chasing after them a few minutes later. What a rush!

    I try to stay awake, but some times i just get too comfy and too still (5 or 6 hours of sleep the night before doesn't help). I usually only doze for ten or twenty minutes, but I always worry about snoring.

    I use a Treewalker which is pretty comfy. I used to use a treelounge years ago when I was younger and could lug that troll around the woods; I think that is where the all day and sleeping thing started. Just never got out of the habit... thank goodness; my success rate has really improved over the years -- can't kill them if you ain't there, awake or asleep. LOL!
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    love my warmbag too!!!
    under construction...

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    Quote Originally Posted by phade View Post
    Mind me asking the stand you used and the platform size?

    I certainly think this is a good product. How does with work with a safety harness?
    I use a treewalker, which has a nice platform. I used to use a summit goliath, but like the TW better.

    Safety harness is no problem. I use a CDS harness because I hunt alone and want to be able to recover; don't like the idea of suspension trauma and I ain't a young monkey no more.

    I just run the life line out through the neck of the Warmbag. If I fall, the bag comes off easy so I can drop it to the ground then hit the silk and lower myself down. I think they have a video of escaping from the The Warmbag on their website; pretty simple, really.

    GL&GH
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    warmbag vrs hbs

    when i talked to tom schneider about HBS opening in cold, he agreed you will lose some heat but is not problem.
    he is very nice person too like joe is also.
    i wish the 2 of them would MERGE and come out with a new suit called HEATER WARMBAG,warmbag top with heater body bottom.best of both worlds.......

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