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    deer corn for planting?????

    Anyone ever buy a bag of deer corn from places like Tractor Supply, and try planting it? I am thinking of giving it a shot, as planting corn is going for $200. a bag, and deer corn is $9.00 a bag. It is solely for the wildlife to eat, and I don't plan on harvesting it. I know the planting corn has chemicals sprayed on it to help germination, but if I get at least 85% germination, I'm happy. Any thoughts? I am going to grab a handful from a buddy that puts it out for deer, and try it indoors. to see if it grows. I know last summer, when i grew sweet corn in the garden, I let a few ears dry out for planting this spring, and last fall, I stuck a few kernals in a bucket, and in a few days, they sprouted. So why wouldn't bagged deer corn?

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    I do it. I'm not spending $175 - $200 for a bag of glyphosate resistant seed! Not to feed deer. You can treat it for seed rot. $8 for a can of seed treatment (fungicide). Weeds are a problem, though. Now, I can't say I've been terribly successful, but, to beat the weeds -- kinda replacing them with more deer friendly chow -- I plant cowpeas with the corn. And, I've been thinking about planting clover early, and going back and planting the corn in the clover. Not ideal, but its fun playing with the possibilities. And then there's the fertilizer requirement...

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    The untreated (non Roundup Ready) corn will mostly germinate, but as said, you will have to control weeds the old fashioned way. With a row cultivator behind a tractor, or a hand wielded hoe! If weeds are left unchecked to grow, you will have no ears of corn, or at best, miniature ears. Corn is an expensive food plot item as you are finding out.
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    Oh, so the roundup ready part is what makes it expensive. How does it become roundup ready? If it is a breed (variety), wouldn't that genetic be passed on to the next crop, or doesn't it work that way? I guess I have some more reading to do.
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    Its gentically altered to not be affected by round up.There are many crops leki sugar beets and cotton that are the same way. Just google it you will find all sorts of info that will give you that all in nut shell.

    I say DO IT! I bought an old IH 2 row corn planter for 30 bucks. I am going to try just whole kernal corn from TSC, its $14.00 a bag. Back in the old days they didn't have all this new fangled stuff. My Granddad would keep back a good ammount of corn for the next years planting.

    Here is a great discussion about corn in food plots and the benefits to RR seed. http://www.iowawhitetail.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=13419

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    Corn is also geneticaly atlered to not grow back the next year. Soybeans can be harvested and replanted the following year and will be round-up resistant. Corn for the most part will not germinate some will grow but not enough to really matter. A good way to get good seed is to find a seed sales man and ask if they have any test plot seed left they come in 1 acre bags and are usually the best genetic seed for the company in a given year, and the best part is it is also usually free.
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    Quote Originally Posted by j.d.m. View Post
    Oh, so the roundup ready part is what makes it expensive. How does it become roundup ready? If it is a breed (variety), wouldn't that genetic be passed on to the next crop, or doesn't it work that way? I guess I have some more reading to do.
    Corn does not pass on it genetic traits. If the corn does germinate it will likely only put very small ears on and not get very tall.
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    I hope this isn't too much of a drift, but: How would you deal with preparing a seed bed if you didn't want the monsantos seed?

    I'm looking to plant sweet corn for me, and the deer can have the rest. Is this something I'll have to spend a buttload on seed for?

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    Spray the field with a glyphosate and pre-emergant, or work the ground and wait a couple weeks till the weeds come up and work it again. option 1 is your best bet.
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    I did some research on geneticaly altered seed, and I think I will try the deer corn. How do you find a seed salesman that will have those kinds of samples. A 1 acre bag is perfect for us. There is a seed company near me where I got my seed from last year, but I didn't take them for a co. that had a salesman. It was just an Agway type of place, where you just walk in and ask for what you want, they go into the back and weigh it out for you....done. I have to spray the field anyway with glyphosphate. What pre-emergence is recomended?
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    not sure about the planting

    but i get corn sprouting around my feeders every year
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    use atrazine for the pre-emergant. If you are wanting to produce a reasonable amount of grain, you will need to use seed corn and about 150 lbs of actual N. If you are just wanting stocks and a few small ears use grain corn.
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    Unless you are willing and able to hand hoe your entire corn plot, or at least use a row culitivator, I say suck it up and buy the expensive - $175 - bag of RR corn seed. Then weed control is easy. Spray the entire field with glysophate 21 days after emergence, and if the weather cooperates, and you have put enough fert into the equation, you will get something for the deer to eat. For many years, preemergents were used just in the rows themselves and applied while planting seed. Then row cultivators were used to tear out weeds between the seed rows several times during the growing period. Nobody except gardeners does it that way any longer. I can make one bag of RR seed corn last quite a while, as I just mix in about 5 pounds to every bag of RR soybean seed, which is my mainstay food plot item. Good luck.
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    It might just be cheaper and easier to buy a ton of corn and throw it down on the ground!

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    Quote Originally Posted by FarmerDan View Post
    It might just be cheaper and easier to buy a ton of corn and throw it down on the ground!
    Exactly precisely correct! A ton of shelled corn will still be less than $250 even at today's high market prices. Buying and putting grain in wildlife feeders is not as much fun as putting in plots, but way way cheaper, and probably just as effective. And not even weather dependent! Now you got ME thinking!!!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by 410gage View Post
    Exactly precisely correct! A ton of shelled corn will still be less than $250 even at today's high market prices. Buying and putting grain in wildlife feeders is not as much fun as putting in plots, but way way cheaper, and probably just as effective. And not even weather dependent! Now you got ME thinking!!!!!!!
    well depending on deer density's you can use approx. 5 tons per year.

    i can use up to 10 tons per year so it get's pricey at todays prices
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    Whole kernel deer feeding corn will grow, germination rates wont be as high as expensive seed corn and you may not get the disease and chemical resistance, but it will grow. Plant it thicker.
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    410gage has the best plan for a low cost late season food plot, i've seen rr beans go for $30 a bag on craigslist and i know if you talked to a local farmer he would give you 5lbs of seed corn to entice them deer to stay away from there crops, and as far as prices go for feeding deer corn in a feeder its not going to be cheap until corn and been prices drop in the market, i feed deer mainly by one big soybean plot and lots of august planted turnip plots with several clover fields, but as far as feeders go the cheapest way is goat pellets and i put them in a homemade gravity feeder that holds 3 bags of pellets, so you dont have to recharge feeder batteries and the only thing that usually eats them is deer unlike corn everything eats it.
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