Huge Nm Cat.. Holy Cow...

[jamaro]

This Cat was "rocked" this summer by a outfitter buddy of mine... THIS CAT IS HUGE... We spent days looking for this beast during the season but no luck.. He is still out there.. He goes at least 200lbs.. Man, he is a true giant..
jason

[adamcooper1983]

holy crap. where do i sign up to hunt that bad boy.. i got teh check book ready!!!!!

[jamaro]

Here is another photo of this beast... Man this cat is huge...
jason

[adamcooper1983]

jason.. what kind of hounds are those??? so i can get a size reference... also estimate a weight and hieght on those hounds

[Whitefeather]

jason.. what kind of hounds are those???

Either very dumb ones or ones with big b***s! I bet he could fit a dogs whole head in his mouth with no problem.

I wouldn't want to cross his path unarmed.

JP
www.parsonsoutdoors.com

[Matt / PA]

Geez one swat and that dog better have a parachute.

Yep that's a big cat.

[jamaro]

Billy Lee is his name.. www.gilaoutfitters.com Tell him I sent you and I posted the pictures...

They are some sort of terrier... probably 30lbs... 20 inches tall.. not huge but BRAVE *******S.... Man I love the pictures... I used to tease Billy about his rat-dogs all the time... NOT ANYMORE.... Look at the size of the ARM on the second picture.. This is the bigggest cat either one of us had ever seen... SPOOOKKEEEYYYYYYYY....

jason

[centercut]

Billy Lee is his name.. www.gilaoutfitters.com Tell him I sent you and I posted the pictures...

They are some sort of terrier... probably 30lbs... 20 inches tall.. not huge but BRAVE *******S.... Man I love the pictures... I used to tease Billy about his rat-dogs all the time... NOT ANYMORE.... Look at the size of the ARM on the second picture.. This is the bigggest cat either one of us had ever seen... SPOOOKKEEEYYYYYYYY....

jason

Maybe that is an average size cat and he is using Dachsunds to run them!


Seriously, that thing is huge! Hope you guys catch up to him again.

[Jose Boudreaux]

wow that is a big cat!!!!!!!

and some mighty brave dogs...I should have used them to tree my ex-wife on our honeymoon while I drove the get-away car.

[bowhuntin_kid]

You have GOT to be kidding me!! Geeze I didn't know those cats got that BIG?!?! Wow... Part of me's thinkin' thats gotta be photoshopped with a lion from Africa or something!! (don't take that the wrong way, I totally believe you, but it's just so damn big!)

[njshadowwalker]

OMG

I dont think i could hunt that thing with a bow. Tooooo big for me!

[drjr]

Hey Jason,
We have a bucnh of those. If you have anybody else wanting to shoot one let me know.

[BEARCOUNTRY]

Something is wrong with that photo?

[Dwarfking]

they are Deutsche Jagd Terriers (German Hunting Terriers).
Devils blood runs through the veins of these dogs and I realy mean it!

[Hare]

wow thats huge has that thing been pumping steroids or sumthing

[ZA206]

When I fist looked at the pictures, I thought those were 80+ lb. black labs.... That scale would have made the mtn. lion the size of a regular AFRICAN lion.....

When you said they were like 30 lbs., I was like "whew"!! Anyway, that's one big ornery looking cat, and those dogs are some ballsy little rascals. Chasing a 200+ lb. cat up the side of a cliff.... look at the first picture, one slip and it's bye bye doggie!!! I'd love to see the dogs in action!! Man, what a trip that would be!!!

-ZA206

[bhohler]

Huge cat for sure!! I'll echo what everyone else has already said - those dogs must be some crazy SOB's to get that close to that thing!!!!

[Bo Hunter]

So I'm wondering, why does the cat not simply kill the dogs? That seems really odd to me, especially considering how easy it appears it would be for it?

Why does this cat retreat like that? Are there 15 more dogs we can't see in the pictures?

You said you didn't see the Cat during season. Was this just a training round for the dogs?

Great pictures. Are those captured from Video footage? I'd love to see some clips from that video!

Bo

Another thing, are both photos from the same location? If so, how on earth was the bottom picture taken, it appears the cat is on a cliff - how did you get that angle? Helicopter?

[Jerry/NJ]

Jason, when my son and I were hunting Unit 23 we were set up in some really thick stuff and him and the so called guide were cow calling, a lost cow call. Well, I figured it was stupid for 3 of us to be there so I walked back to the dirt road to watch and see if a bull would try and sneak around down wind. Well unknown to me at the time, a cat (as big as that one) was stalking my son and the guide wanna be. He got within 4 or 5 feet of my son and he went OH SHEEET and the wanna be guide said WHAT??? , well the cat scared and he ran, well I didnt know this was happening as I was several hundred yards away. So I see something moving and this cat ...no this LION and I will never ever forget it, came out on the dirt road and looked and then kept going and I was like WOW isnt that too cool !!!!! Well, after dark we met back at the truck and compared stories and they were like , he was that big????? cuase they were in such thick stuff my son only saw the feet (thats how close it was). I wish I had the pics of him like above. What a memory ! Thanx for bringing it back to share.

[hayseed]

News Flash.....Female African lion roaming New Mexico. Good thing it dosen't like the taste of dogs!

[jamaro]

wow that is a big cat!!!!!!!

and some mighty brave dogs...I should have used them to tree my ex-wife on our honeymoon while I drove the get-away car.

NOW THAT IS FUNNY...

jason

[jamaro]

they are Deutsche Jagd Terriers (German Hunting Terriers).
Devils blood runs through the veins of these dogs and I realy mean it!

I will tell my buddy... All I know is that those dogs are brave... But they are pretty mellow around the house..

jason

[kevinh]

I'm with bearcountry. Those photo's look odd for some reason. Awfully crisp lines on some portions of both photo's. The edges of the cat don't seem to blur into the background as much as the dog's do. Maybe it's just a matter of contrast the colors provide. Also the scale seems odd. In the second photo the cats paw seems to be larger than the dogs head even witht he dog being closer to the camera...Not saying they arean't legit, I guess with an animal that size it is only natural to question the authenticity. I would also say that alot of things look "right" about the photo as well.

Do you have any additional pictures that you could share? I want to believe that the photo's are real as that would be one spectacular animal.

[Josh Michaelis]

In the second photo the dogs are two feet from the cat and not looking at him.

Photoshop or not that is still a big animal. Terriers? are you sure? Not that Terriers do not have the heart, but they lack the size and the nose, two thirty pound dogs would have a hard time treeing a bobcat, alone a lion like that.

[jamaro]

So I'm wondering, why does the cat not simply kill the dogs? That seems really odd to me, especially considering how easy it appears it would be for it?
Why does this cat retreat like that? Are there 15 more dogs we can't see in the pictures?
You said you didn't see the Cat during season. Was this just a training round for the dogs?
Great pictures. Are those captured from Video footage? I'd love to see some clips from that video!

Bo

Another thing, are both photos from the same location? If so, how on earth was the bottom picture taken, it appears the cat is on a cliff - how did you get that angle? Helicopter?

I am not sure why they just don't take a swipe and knock those dogs into outer-space... Maybe just the nature of the beast... It was just those two dogs...

The hardest part of cat hunting is striking a track and keeping up with the dogs... When they get a cat treed you need to be there ASAP or bad things can happen.... I think they were riding in the bottom of the canyon and had to scale the cliff.

Billy was taking a fishing client into the wilderness on horse back and decided to bring the puppies along for the ride.. They struck a track and all hell broke loose....

I will ask Billy if he has some video...

Not sure how the bottom picture was taken I was not on this fishing trip but I would think it could be from the mountain side of the cat????


Jason

[kevinh]

[QUOTE=Josh Michaelis]In the second photo the dogs are two feet from the cat and not looking at him.

I might add that the cat is not looking at the dogs either, even though he is in mid-snarl in an effort to intimidate the dogs. Seems he is staring off into left field. Even though the dogs are only two feet away they don't seem to be too tense in the second photo.

[Bobmuley]

That cats got some big shoulders. You guys need to get that deer-killer.

Please post the doctored up "after" photos for all the doubters. I'd like to see them out on a cat hunt when they get 10 feet from a 130 lb'er...."Oh my god its huge!", or hear them say "holy sheet" after a cat jumps off a cliff like that.

Those cats will patiently wait for there chance to kill a dog, without getting hurt by the other. That's their livlihood, and they're pretty good at it.

[jamaro]

Something is wrong with that photo?

I will see if Billy has some more pictures...This guy is as legit as it gets... I understand the skeptism... But this is the real deal...

jason

[jamaro]

In the second photo the dogs are two feet from the cat and not looking at him.
.

I noticed that two.. It is the whole divide and conquer deal.. You would be amazed how close those dogs get when a cat bayes in a pile of rocks... Those dogs have noooo fear... They often take little snips at the bayed animals.. Cats or Bears..

jason

[Dens228]

Looking at the two photos, is the second one taken from a helicopter?

They aren't adding up?

[Dens228]

There's also a tree on the lions right side that isn't in the first.

[kevinh]

There's also a tree on the lions right side that isn't in the first.

Cut down between photo's OR Photoshop. Adobe stock is going up...

[jamaro]

I think the second photo is taken from another rock outcropping..

jason

[WildAntlers]

Have you folks seen these photos?
These pics came from a guy in AZ. Yes, the mule killed the mountain lion. The lion had been stalking them for the better part of the morning, on the way out to a hunt. They were pretty sure it was after one of the dogs. The cat ambushed them, and the mule (pictured) tossed its rider and went into attack mode, the horses scattered and shots were fired but no one was sure if they hit the cat or not. Unfortunately, it wasn't until it was almost over that one of the guys started snapping pics. The mule finally stomped the cougar to death after biting and throwing it around like a rag doll. The dogs wouldn't even come close until the mule settled down.
The mule stomped the cat then pinned it to the ground and bit the heck out of it several more times. When the cat was pretty much dead the mule then picked up the cat again whipped it into the air again then stomped the cat again for good measure!
Note the dog audience....
Gives new meaning to the phrase "BAD *****"....

[jamaro]

Cut down between photo's OR Photoshop. Adobe stock is going up...

Believe me I wish I was that good with photoshop, my websites would be alot better.... But you are more then welcome to try to deconstruct the picture IT IS LEGIT...

Some people just don't want to believe... But hey that is cool.. no big deal


jason

[Josh Michaelis]

Believe me I wish I was that good with photoshop, my websites would be alot better.... But you are more then welcome to try to deconstruct the picture IT IS LEGIT...

Im just going to take your word for it and leave it at that. What is the world record for Lion, not score but pounds, anybody know, Some friends of mine killed one a few miles from my house last January that weighed 130 pounds, that was big enough for me.

[Mr.Optics]

I read that the mule went crazy after the guide went to put the cat on the back of the mule. The cat was already dead.

[Mr.Optics]

I believe the huge Nm cat is real. A mature cat can exceed 180#s.He just looks like a giant because the dogs are so small.Dont get me wrong he is a very big dangerous animal.

[kevinh]

I didn't mean to come off wrong. I know that they are not your photo's they just seem fishy. Nothing personal. I am putting in for an elk tag for that country and maybe I'm hoping that there are no cat's that big running around!!!

Kevinh

Believe me I wish I was that good with photoshop, my websites would be alot better.... But you are more then welcome to try to deconstruct the picture IT IS LEGIT...

Some people just don't want to believe... But hey that is cool.. no big deal


jason

[vpier]

You have GOT to be kidding me!! Geeze I didn't know those cats got that BIG?!?! Wow... Part of me's thinkin' thats gotta be photoshopped with a lion from Africa or something!! (don't take that the wrong way, I totally believe you, but it's just so damn big!)

They get that big here in Colorado. We had one that was killed by a car not to long ago and if I remember right the cat weighed about 205lbs. They get big and fat when there feeding on peoples pets