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    My review of the new Mathews Helim(pics)...

    I shot the new Mathews flagship bow yesterday. The bow is a nice shooter with the smooth shooting experience I'd expect from a new Mathews. With that said, I'm not seeing any reason to buy this bow? It does nothing better than the original Z7 which I liked better. Yes its lighter but some of the reasons are that they ditched the bottom string suppressor which was probably not needed with a string stop, and they used lighter(presumably cheaper) parts for the string stop and reverse roller assist. The string stop looked identical to one on a Mission bow sitting at the shop. If I'm paying $959 retail I don't want those parts on my Mathews bow.



    The shot was quite smooth as I shot the bow with just a biscuit and no stabilizer. It had a slight kick back which I'm sure was did to the new light Harmonic Stabilizer. This bow needs stabilizer with weight out front to get rid of that. The draw comes to a firm wall with the draw stop. I'm sure Mathews added this to pull shooters who didn't go the Mathews route because they haven't used them in a long time. I think for most Mathews shooters though, they're not going to like this as they're used to being able to creep a little without the draw stop.

    I do like the new wood on the grip but I'd rather have a Focus grip. I'm sure people will be happy there's no red accent on the cam. Overall its still a great bow and shoots very well but it doesn't seem very innovative or different at all from previous models. I'm glad though as I have no reason to sell my Monster so my wallet thanks Mathews! Lol






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    They had a countdown on there web-site for this? wow

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    Why OH Why in the name of everything holy with a bow the manufacturer is touting it's major selling point as being lightweight..so lightweight in fact that they need plastic doodad brackets to mount a quiver that they leave off just for the scales and then?..

    mount a freaking string stop 3"s above the lower cam?

    really?...are they serious?..Note to Self:..Never, Ever...buy a mathews.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JINKSTER View Post
    Why OH Why in the name of everything holy with a bow the manufacturer is touting it's major selling point as being lightweight..so lightweight in fact that they need plastic doodad brackets to mount a quiver that they leave off just for the scales and then?..

    mount a freaking string stop 3"s above the lower cam?

    really?...are they serious?..Note to Self:..Never, Ever...buy a mathews.
    Have you seen all the plastic in the new PSEs? Just saying
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Answer View Post
    Have you seen all the plastic in the new PSEs? Just saying
    no..but then again?..i've been looking at strothers lately...just sayin. LOL!
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Answer View Post
    Have you seen all the plastic in the new PSEs? Just saying
    What model? What parts?

    When you hold a 2012 PSE, you hold a bow that is substantial..stout, and one you know will not let you down...
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Answer View Post
    Have you seen all the plastic in the new PSEs? Just saying
    No, what plastics?
    Archery makes my shaft quiver.

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    Looks like you can flip the string stop and it will be 4.5 inches......LOL..Either way the string stop looks a lil cheap to me.I am sure some will love it some will hate it.Me I will keep shooting the sbxt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NY911 View Post
    What model? What parts?

    When you hold a 2012 PSE, you hold a bow that is substantial..stout, and one you know will not let you down...
    I said the same thing to the wife last night...Except for the pse,ing thing...lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by JINKSTER View Post
    no..but then again?..i've been looking at strothers lately...just sayin. LOL!
    Since we are talking flagships..let's use the Evo as a comparision...

    Plastic parts on the Evo;

    Axle QCR's
    Cable Slide (actually a very slippery "plastic"..dont even know if it qualifies as plastic
    MIGHT be thin pastic sheets under each limb in the pocket
    And........

    Ummm........

    Well...that about it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckatuk View Post
    I said the same thing to the wife last night...Except for the pse,ing thing...lol
    LOL....my wife said get the hell out of here! LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Answer View Post
    Have you seen all the plastic in the new PSEs? Just saying
    Quote Originally Posted by NY911 View Post
    Since we are talking flagships..let's use the Evo as a comparision...

    Plastic parts on the Evo;

    Axle QCR's
    Cable Slide (actually a very slippery "plastic"..dont even know if it qualifies as plastic
    MIGHT be thin pastic sheets under each limb in the pocket
    And........

    Ummm........

    Well...that about it!
    okay?..just took a look at my 2010 omen..and found one (1) piece of plastic..if ya wanna call teflon plastic...the cable slider...pocket rockers are metal.
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    I'm sorry but the new Heli looks cheap!!!!!

    The cheapo looking rod with the rollers on the end, CHEAP!!!!!!

    The string stop, CHEAP!!!!!!

    The new idler looks really thin, and cheap looking!!!!

    But what is amazing is how many guys will buy and believe that it's the best ever, Sorry the SB and SBXT have been the best!!!!!

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    I agree hansel...I will even out the Drenalin down as the LAST good Mathews bow...although I shot the Reezen and it was OK...but like the Switchy's...I spent ALOT of time behind a Switchback and enjoyed it...LOVED my Prestiges too...but mathews has certainly lost the edge..the only thing keeping them afloat now is their reputation and faithful re-buyers.
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    String stop and roller guard look like cheap after market parts. This bow Sucks.

    Their is no such thing In my book as a nice shooting 30 inch midget bow.

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    This thread is hilarious!
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    Well, thats 2 bows now you will never own, 2 weeks ago it was BowTech because of the cheesie video's. Your thinning the heard fast Jinks........LOL's
    Quote Originally Posted by JINKSTER View Post
    Why OH Why in the name of everything holy with a bow the manufacturer is touting it's major selling point as being lightweight..so lightweight in fact that they need plastic doodad brackets to mount a quiver that they leave off just for the scales and then?..

    mount a freaking string stop 3"s above the lower cam?

    really?...are they serious?..Note to Self:..Never, Ever...buy a mathews.
    I eat tomorrows trophies today

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    Turd

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    I just traded a Bowtech Invasion for the new Heli. I figured after shooting and dropping two deer with the Z7 Xtreme and shooting this bow it was worth it. But I like the smoothness of the single cam, it doesn't lurch you forward like the dual cams. And that's just me.
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    The Mathews haters must be drooling right now lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by olehemlock View Post
    Well, thats 2 bows now you will never own, 2 weeks ago it was BowTech because of the cheesie video's. Your thinning the heard fast Jinks........LOL's
    well unfortunately?.. "the herd" seems to need thinning! LOL! and btw..ya missed one..elite..i'm no longer interested in them either.

    PSE, Strothers or Bust...then again?..i'm geting more of a thrill and satisfaction shooting trad gear these days..wonder why.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NY911 View Post
    What model? What parts?

    When you hold a 2012 PSE, you hold a bow that is substantial..stout, and one you know will not let you down...
    This makes me laugh. Love my Omen Pro. Stupid Fast. But the S.O.B has gone through two sets of limbs already. $1000 for 2 let downs!
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    cheap looking on rollers and string stop. not what i look for in a mathews. very happy with z7 xtreme. im glad i didnt wait for this.

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    new bow

    Thats why i got this today
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    The switchback is the last Mathews I'll most likely own. I've owned the original, just bought a used xt, and I'll be shooting the strother bows as my primary bow for some years to come. Maybe I'll try some elites also. These new Mathews just don't get me excited at all.
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