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    Anybody BUT Obama

    Will you still vote for the republican candidate ( against Obama ) if your preffered candidate doesn't win the primary??? OR will you throw your vote away and go 3rd party???



    I'm all in " Anybody BUT Obama!!!! "


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    Voting "anybody but obama" is a blind and uninformed choice. that will likely give us someone just as bad, but from the other end of the scale. I would consider that "throwing your vote away" as well.

    I will continue to vote third party because I believe that the two party system is a big factor in our current mess. Democrats and republicans are both trying to strip rights and invade your personal lives, but from different sides. They are two sides of the same coin, and both are equally bad for us. We need more viable parties to really limit the power of the government over us. If you can sleep at night knowing that you took the easy way out- so be it. That is fully within your rights. But I can't be comfortable with that.

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    Does anyone here have the results of third party candidates winning a presidential election at any time in our history? So whether you are voting against someone or for someone doesn't really matter does it? A third party so far has proven to truly be a throw your vote away. Ross Perot, Ralph Nader... ask Al Gore about that one, only proves that if you are ideologically driven, you'll probably lose. One thing most sports teams have learned, is that you have to have a 2nd string and some positions a third. Politics is is similar. Just because your first string player is gone, you don't start cheering for the otherside unless you are truly dysfunctional... and I see some of that present here.

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    I'm focusing on any candidate that won't throw the Constitution away.

    The 4th Amendment got tossed with the passage of the Patriot Act
    The 1st has been trampled and faces further jeopardy with the passage of SOPA.
    The 5th and 6th got trashed with the passage of Indefinite Detention.

    I imagine the 2nd Amendment will be next.

    I plan on voting for people that will stop shredding the Constitution and work to put it back together.

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    I will vote for who ever gets the nod. But if hell froze over and Paul got it I would vote for bummer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZenBubba View Post
    I'm focusing on any candidate that won't throw the Constitution away.

    The 4th Amendment got tossed with the passage of the Patriot Act
    The 1st has been trampled and faces further jeopardy with the passage of SOPA.
    The 5th and 6th got trashed with the passage of Indefinite Detention.

    I imagine the 2nd Amendment will be next.

    I plan on voting for people that will stop shredding the Constitution and work to put it back together.
    So speaking of the Patriot act, how would you accomplish its mission if you repealed it? And no soundbytes please... spell it out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sticshooter View Post
    I will vote for who ever gets the nod. But if hell froze over and Paul got it I would vote for bummer.
    yeah... at least 0bama is willing to send a missile into pakistan or yemen.... when the urge suits him... I understand he's done it so much now that he thinks he's a general ... pulitzer recipient... hahahahaha... he's really gored everyones ox hasn't he....

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZenBubba View Post
    I'm focusing on any candidate that won't throw the Constitution away.

    The 4th Amendment got tossed with the passage of the Patriot Act
    The 1st has been trampled and faces further jeopardy with the passage of SOPA.
    The 5th and 6th got trashed with the passage of Indefinite Detention.

    I imagine the 2nd Amendment will be next.

    I plan on voting for people that will stop shredding the Constitution and work to put it back together.
    Welcome to the libertarian party.

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    I'm not throwing my vote away. Do I agree with Romney 100%? NO! But I believe he's a better alternative to Obama. Santorum has good and bad ideas, still a better candidate than Obama. IMO!

    Can we just answer the question?!!!

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    Speaking of General 0bama, http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Militar...p-dramatically, isn't it interesting that under his watch, and since the Democrats took control of congress in 2006, 0bama's military has women and now maybe more men being raped in the military... but don't ask... When you don't have a leader, you have chaos. When you don't respect your missionaries, the mission sometimes gets affected. Another reason to demote him....

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    Quote Originally Posted by rattus58 View Post
    Does anyone here have the results of third party candidates winning a presidential election at any time in our history? So whether you are voting against someone or for someone doesn't really matter does it? A third party so far has proven to truly be a throw your vote away. Ross Perot, Ralph Nader... ask Al Gore about that one, only proves that if you are ideologically driven, you'll probably lose. One thing most sports teams have learned, is that you have to have a 2nd string and some positions a third. Politics is is similar. Just because your first string player is gone, you don't start cheering for the otherside unless you are truly dysfunctional... and I see some of that present here.
    That is the mentality that keeps the system broken. People are afraid to vote for what they want, and are stuck in the lesser evil idea. The dems and republicans really appreciate that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Claydee View Post
    I'm not throwing my vote away. Do I agree with Romney 100%? NO! But I believe he's a better alternative to Obama. Santorum has good and bad ideas, still a better candidate than Obama. IMO!

    Can we just answer the question?!!!
    you are 100% right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MN_Chick View Post
    Welcome to the libertarian party.
    I imagine I've been listed as persona non grata by the Republican party anyway. Apparently.

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    Of course you are right Clay, ABO in November.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Claydee View Post
    I'm not throwing my vote away. Do I agree with Romney 100%? NO! But I believe he's a better alternative to Obama. Santorum has good and bad ideas, still a better candidate than Obama. IMO!

    Can we just answer the question?!!!
    Yeahyyuuuuu, let's vote for turds that wipe their rear ends with the constitution by supporting crap like the P-A/NDAA/Enemy expatriation act. Obamas bailout = redistribution of wealth, Romney/Newts support of the bailout = ok
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    Quote Originally Posted by MN_Chick View Post
    That is the mentality that keeps the system broken. People are afraid to vote for what they want, and are stuck in the lesser evil idea. The dems and republicans really appreciate that.

    These guys wonder why the get stuck with candidates that support socialist/progressive/communist ideology whn the endorse the same vies by voting for them
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    Quote Originally Posted by jkcerda View Post

    These guys wonder why the get stuck with candidates that support socialist/progressive/communist ideology whn the endorse the same vies by voting for them
    Its ok to ignore the blatant similarities as long as they have an "R" in front on their name.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MN_Chick View Post
    That is the mentality that keeps the system broken. People are afraid to vote for what they want, and are stuck in the lesser evil idea. The dems and republicans really appreciate that.
    The system isn't broken. It's effective and keeps things in balance. When you have third parties, you now wind up with coalitions with no clear direction and you feed a series of interests, not that you're not with two parties, but the results are clearer when you have fewer delineated interests. Shakers and takers. What we have today, is corruption, and self interest. I think that people are realizing that and now we have an Establishment Mentality that we are battling in both parties, but moreso in the Republican Party. The TEA party isn't a "party" and a conservative democrat would just as likely get a vote as would a conservative republican. What I've noticed here in Hawaii, is that you are getting more clearly defined positions, and shakers and takers is definitely true here, but then you have the money. When you have a state that so controls everything, money matters, and so too does special interest and along with that special interest... and those interests make for bedfelllows.

    You notice that Republicans, when it comes to status quo, are every bit as vicious against younger republicans who entered the race on principal. TEA party folks want true conservatives, someone who is instinctively conservative... this is why Romney is the "alternative", and why Santorum is in the hunt, though you then have the Gingrich factor... one who is better at delivering the conservative message and who has performed... and led the Clinton successes. Then there are the Pelosi and Clinton associations.

    We have enough trouble with a two man race... and you want three.... We as republicans got screwed with McCain. I've absolutely no idea how that happened. Maverick??? Massengill would be more appropriate... But we're gaining. My only hope is that this election doesn't deteriorate into just a presidential contest but one of philosophical change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BaxMaine View Post
    Its ok to ignore the blatant similarities as long as they have an "R" in front on their name.
    Well when you have proven similarities and not soundbytes, that would be true. Now you seem to be saying that we have communists running the republican party? Care to expound on that... say as opposed to 0bama?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rattus58 View Post
    The system isn't broken. It's effective and keeps things in balance. When you have third parties, you now wind up with coalitions with no clear direction and you feed a series of interests, not that you're not with two parties, but the results are clearer when you have fewer delineated interests. Shakers and takers. What we have today, is corruption, and self interest. I think that people are realizing that and now we have an Establishment Mentality that we are battling in both parties, but moreso in the Republican Party. The TEA party isn't a "party" and a conservative democrat would just as likely get a vote as would a conservative republican. What I've noticed here in Hawaii, is that you are getting more clearly defined positions, and shakers and takers is definitely true here, but then you have the money. When you have a state that so controls everything, money matters, and so too does special interest and along with that special interest... and those interests make for bedfelllows.

    You notice that Republicans, when it comes to status quo, are every bit as vicious against younger republicans who entered the race on principal. TEA party folks want true conservatives, someone who is instinctively conservative... this is why Romney is the "alternative", and why Santorum is in the hunt, though you then have the Gingrich factor... one who is better at delivering the conservative message and who has performed... and led the Clinton successes. Then there are the Pelosi and Clinton associations.

    We have enough trouble with a two man race... and you want three.... We as republicans got screwed with McCain. I've absolutely no idea how that happened. Maverick??? Massengill would be more appropriate... But we're gaining. My only hope is that this election doesn't deteriorate into just a presidential contest but one of philosophical change.
    I stopped reading after the bold because I was laughing to hard and started to cry and the screen was blurry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Claydee View Post
    Will you still vote for the republican candidate ( against Obama ) if your preffered candidate doesn't win the primary??? OR will you throw your vote away and go 3rd party???

    I'm all in " Anybody BUT Obama!!!! "
    I've watched O'bama's political career for about 12 years now. He's a CHICAGO politician and Chicago politicians can NOT be trusted to represent "We the People". He has no leadership skills. He doesn't understand how to actually reach a compromise with an opposing party. His "Beer Garden summit" taxed his leadership ability to the max. He started with the assumption that the police acted stoopidly AFTER admitting that he didn't know all the facts. His next step was to bring both sides together (cop and professor) so they could "talk". That part was OK. Then O'bama wandered off to more pressing matters. Nothing was settled. He thinks his job was done just because two people voiced their opinions in his presence. He doesn't know how, or can't, handle the details. He can't finish the job.

    O'bama is nothing more than a spokesmodel for the progressive Democrats and Soros agenda. Even Democrats in Congress don't listen to him and he was one of them. Out with him I say and good riddence.

    Anyone but O'bama - 2012.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BaxMaine View Post
    I stopped reading after the bold because I was laughing to hard and started to cry and the screen was blurry.
    Same here. Balance? What balance? BOTH sides wanted /approved the P-A BOTH sides approved the NDAA BOTH sides helped pass the bailouts. , where is the balance when both sides crap on the constitution & agree to spend us onto the ground
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    Quote Originally Posted by jkcerda View Post
    Same here. Balance? What balance? BOTH sides wanted /approved the P-A BOTH sides approved the NDAA BOTH sides helped pass the bailouts. , where is the balance when both sides crap on the constitution & agree to spend us onto the ground
    so you removed Ratt from your ignore I see . Missed him didn't you Juan BLAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHA
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    Quote Originally Posted by sticshooter View Post
    so you removed Ratt from your ignore I see . Missed him didn't you Juan BLAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHA
    Nope, I read bax"s post. If you guys quote ratt, I get to see the post nice dodge btw
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    Quote Originally Posted by jkcerda View Post
    Nope, I read bax"s post. If you guys quote ratt, I get to see the post nice dodge btw
    dodge????
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