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    Bowtech insanity cpxl or Hoyt T vector

    It's come time to buy a new bow. It's down to the Hoyt turbo vector or Bowtech insanity cpxl. I have shot both, and they both feel great. I personally give the edge to the cpxl. My dilemma is I heard of various issues with Bowtech in Canada when or if repairs are ever needed. Customer service is a big thing when I purchase anything. I learned my lesson a few years ago when my Mathews blew apart and couIldn't get limbs for 2 months. I ended up buying another bow.

    Now the to the T vector. It also shot good. Both bows were not tuned, just a quick set up. There is a lot of talk with the dreaded tail left tear. It's a lot of moula to put down on a bow that may present tuning issues.

    I'm looking for some insight on Bowtech customer service in Canada, or any other issues with the cpxl.

    As well, for those who own or have shot the T vector, what are your thoughts on tuning etc.

    Thanks for your input in advance.



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    My vt was easy to tune and I liked it better than my BT had the insanity while a little faster out I the gates it seemed to lose energy down range with a heavy arrow my VT is hammering the target...not to mention you don't have to worry about the limbs peelin had mine for about a week outside once and started chipping at the edges

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    i like the vectors ten times better than the insanity, i would not own an insanity...just my opinion. if you have a GREAT dealer, i wouldnt be worried about getting a bowtech, but if you question it...get the hoyt, no doubt. you will probably never have to use hoyt customer service, but if you do...they will do anything and everything to get you fixed up. a friend of mine dropped his hoyt out of a tree, landed on the cam...the axle was tweaked a little bit, and they couldnt figure it out....sent the bow to hoyt...they called him and told him the axle was bent and they fixed it and it was on its way back....when he got it back, they put new cams, axles, and strings and cables on it, and sent him back his old ones, and the good axle! personally, hoyt for me.

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    Bowtech really did themselves a disservice when they named the CPXL an Insanity CPXL. The Insanity is a 6" brace height 32" speed bow, while the Insanity CPXL is a 7" brace height 35" bow. You'd be surprised at how many people say they didn't like the Insanity when I tell them what I'm shooting, and then realize that I'm shooting an entirely different bow than what they didn't like.

    I did not like the Insanity and would choose the Vector Turbo over the Insanity. However, I've had my Insanity CPXL for a just a few days, and so far, it's an absolute pleasure to shoot, and that and the Matrix RKT are my favorite bows of the year.

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    We've never had an issue with Bowtech's customer service at the shop, which I believe all the horror stories of inadequate service might be more dealer related than what we've hear on AT lol. But either way their CS is much much better than it used to be. They've put a new anorock like finish on the latest shipments of insanity limbs which seems to have solved the issues of the peeling. But even if your limbs do start peeling they've been really good about replacing them under warranty, around here anyway. Both tuned very easy after only a couple of shots. I don't know what all the fuss about when it comes to tuning the VT. It came down to the grip and overall balance for me which is why I went with the Vector Turbo. Both were lightning fast, smooth, shock free, and quiet. I just seem to shoot Hoyts very well. Hope this helps and good luck with your decision!
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    Don't buy in to all the mess about the Vector Turbo being so hard to tune, the "dreaded" left tear, and all the other fallacies that are circling around on AT about the bow. The truth is, if you have a dealer that knows anything at all about how to yoke tune the new Hoyt bows, all these "problems" are pretty much a mute point. When I bought my Turbo, it had the left tear issue. It took all of ten minutes of my dealer putting a few twists in one yoke, and taking a couple out of the other side, and the bow was shooting bullet holes. As others have said, there is some cam lean, and whether or not you buy into all the cam lean myths is up to you. I personally have not seen any adverse effects, and the yoke tuning that was done on my bow took most of it out anyway. The fact is, the Vector Turbo is a sweet shooting bow, AND it's one of the fastest, smoothest shooting bows on the market, hands down.

    As far as the Insanity is concerned... I have NEVER been even remotely a fan of Bowtech. But, I shot the Insanity the same day I shot my VT, and it was the ONLY bow I shot that made my decision hard on buying the Turbo. It's the only Bowtech I've ever shot that I've liked... and I REALLY liked it. The Turbo edged out the Insanity as far as having a smoother draw, and it's definitely faster, so the Turbo is what I went with. But, If I was going to buy a second bow, I'd take an Insanity in a heartbeat. Truthfully, I dont think You can go wrong either way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by timberghost51 View Post
    My vt was easy to tune and I liked it better than my BT had the insanity while a little faster out I the gates it seemed to lose energy down range with a heavy arrow my VT is hammering the target...not to mention you don't have to worry about the limbs peelin had mine for about a week outside once and started chipping at the edges
    How the heck does the same that leaves the bow at a faster speed lose more energy ? I'm assuming they are both are tuned .this sounds like some fanboy bs.The insanity is one of most tunable bows out there and vector is dang near imposable to tune.
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    I went to the local pro shop to purchase the Insanity. I was shocked that I left with the Hoyt VT. I love bowtech bows but the VT just won me over. The turbo tunes easy with the correct arrow spine and some yoke adjustments. I have to admit that I did not like the stock strings on the VT but over the years I have always got rid of stock strings anyway. I would probably be happy with both bows but the fit, finish and feel of the VT just hooked me. The Hoyt does torque easy but after some practice I got use to not letting it torque. The bow is quiet and very fast. JMHO

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    Quote Originally Posted by 0nepin View Post
    How the heck does the same that leaves the bow at a faster speed lose more energy ? I'm assuming they are both are tuned .this sounds like some fanboy bs.The insanity is one of most tunable bows out there and vector is dang near imposable to tune.
    LOL it takes a fan boy to know one. Do you have a Vector? There's a majority of peoples that WILL tune.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 0nepin View Post
    How the heck does the same that leaves the bow at a faster speed lose more energy ? I'm assuming they are both are tuned .this sounds like some fanboy bs.The insanity is one of most tunable bows out there and vector is dang near imposable to tune.
    No, THAT comment sounds like uneducated fanboy BS. There's NOTHING impossible about tuning a VT if you know what you're doing.

    There's already been several posts on AT about the insanity losing energy at a higher degree with heavier arrows than some other bows. Look it up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lowlevlflyer View Post
    No, THAT comment sounds like uneducated fanboy BS. There's NOTHING impossible about tuning a VT if you know what you're doing.

    There's already been several posts on AT about the insanity losing energy at a higher degree with heavier arrows than some other bows. Look it up.
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    Shot both alot and the they both lose speed the same as arrow weight is increased.he said the arrow lost more energy down rage after leaving the insanity faster .as long as they are both tuned his comment is incorrect .I have tuned both and the cpxl is way easier to tune.I don't own either but they are both my kind of bow.I would like vt better if it did not a roller guard.Cam lean is not a good thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 0nepin View Post
    How the heck does the same that leaves the bow at a faster speed lose more energy ? I'm assuming they are both are tuned .this sounds like some fanboy bs.The insanity is one of most tunable bows out there and vector is dang near imposable to tune.
    if ANYTHING sounds like a fanboy quote its yours! neither one of these bows are hard at all to tune, if they are, you simply do not know how to tune a damn bow!

    i agree with ironman too, the DEALER is who has to be good. bowtech deals with the dealer, not the customer. my best friend just bought an insanity, and it is already peeling....and the DEALER called bowtech, and new limbs are on their way. all the crap you hear on here is simply fanboys bashing other brands. i guess you could call me a hoyt 'fanboy', but i dont bash other brands...i like most other companies out there, INCLUDING bowtech...but personally, i dont like the insanity anywhere near the vectors....but i like the feel of the hoyt better....the invasion, on the other hand, is an awesome bow, as are the destroyers, in my opinion.

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    Look Hoyt n em! I most certainly know how tune a bow but the insanity is alot easier to to tune , I have tuned vt and it had to have cam lean to get bullet holes and the insanity does not need any cam lean to shoot bullet holes.
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    The BT has the overdrive system...that's why it shouldn't have cam lean. If it has cam lean you're in trouble
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    Quote Originally Posted by 0nepin View Post
    Look Hoyt n em! I most certainly know how tune a bow but the insanity is alot easier to to tune , I have tuned vt and it had to have cam lean to get bullet holes and the insanity does not need any cam lean to shoot bullet holes.
    Well then, you may know how to tune an Insanity, but it's VERY OBVIOUS that you don't know SQUAT about tuning the Vector Turbo! Mine shoots bullet holes right now, with almost no cam lean at ALL! 10 minutes worth of yoke tuning was all it took to GET it to that point. Let me get this straight... You dont actually OWN either one, but you're an expert on TUNING them?? Give me a break.
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    My 07 xforce tunes without any cam lean.the hoyt roller guard require you to add cam lean at rest so the cam straighten out at full draw.I tune them on my draw board.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lowlevlflyer View Post
    Well then, you may know how to tune an Insanity, but it's VERY OBVIOUS that you don't know SQUAT about tuning the Vector Turbo! Mine shoots bullet holes right now, with almost no cam lean at ALL! 10 minutes worth of yoke tuning was all it took to GET it to that point. Let me get this straight... You dont actually OWN either one, but you're an expert on TUNING them?? Give me a break.
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    I did not know I had to own one to know how to tune one.damm cracker must own alot of bows ?that sound you hear is the short bus pulling up to take you to archery school.
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    I believe you said "dang near impossible to tune". I don't think those words would come out of crackers mouth, that's the difference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 0nepin View Post
    My 07 xforce tunes without any cam lean.the hoyt roller guard require you to add cam lean at rest so the cam straighten out at full draw.I tune them on my draw board.
    Well alrighty then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 0nepin View Post
    I did not know I had to own one to know how to tune one.damm cracker must own alot of bows ?that sound you hear is the short bus pulling up to take you to archery school.
    Well obviously I know more about tuning the Turbo than you do, so you might want to reserve YOURSELF a seat on that bus there, buddy. And I SERIOUSLY doubt that you are in the same league as Crackers when it comes to tuning expertise.
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    I work part time at a shop and I have shot both. Normally, i shoot a Hoyt, but I personally like the CPXL better than the VT. It looks quite unique, its fast, draws good. The only thing i do not like about the CPXL, is the hold and valley.

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