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    Law allows creationism to be taught in Tenn. public schools

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/nation...xAT_story.html

    A bill that allows Tennessee public school teachers to teach alternatives to mainstream scientific theories such as evolution will become law this month after the governor refused to sign or veto the measure, The Washington Post’s Valerie Strauss reports.
    OH boy....here we go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huntin4Elk View Post
    I don't have a problem with it. Teach the kids as much as possible and let them decide for themselves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CherryJu1ce View Post
    I don't have a problem with it. Teach the kids as much as possible and let them decide for themselves; only getting one "theory" like evolution or creationism is anything but beneficial.
    THIS!!! ^^^^^^

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    Quote Originally Posted by CherryJu1ce View Post
    I don't have a problem with it. Teach the kids as much as possible and let them decide for themselves.
    First off, their is no genuine scientific controversy over evolution--the consensus of science is that it is true. The "controversy" is a religious one which has no place in science class. So there is no scientific controversy to teach. Second, children are not research scientists. So we teach them the consensus of science, and the scientific method, rather than tell them to figure it out on their own.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CherryJu1ce View Post
    I don't have a problem with it. Teach the kids as much as possible and let them decide for themselves.
    Look, OK, that's just about the most ridiculous thing a person could say. Yes, yes, teach then alchemy, astrology, and creation myths and say they are alternatives to science. Brilliant. We'll be the nation of the dumbest people on the whole planet within a generation. Goodbye world leadership, we're teaching our children to be morons now! Good-bye those of you who put a man on the moon, we're headed for the caves with the other third-world dung-heap nations. Goodbye America, we're a religiously-run nation now, like Iran! Yippee! Hell-fire, Cletus!

    I'm tellin' ya, Lincoln was wrong, he should have let the south go into their merry land of BS, we'd have flying cars up north by now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spreggy View Post
    Look, OK, that's just about the most ridiculous thing a person could say. Yes, yes, teach then alchemy, astrology, and creation myths and say they are alternatives to science. Brilliant. We'll be the nation of the dumbest people on the whole planet within a generation. Goodbye world leadership, we're teaching our children to be morons now! Good-bye those of you who put a man on the moon, we're headed for the caves with the other third-world dung-heap nations. Goodbye America, we're a religiously-run nation now, like Iran! Yippee! Hell-fire, Cletus!

    I'm tellin' ya, Lincoln was wrong, he should have let the south go into their merry land of BS, we'd have flying cars up north by now.
    so much drama. Relax were not Iran.I and many other Christians don't wanna be like Iran.Chill for crying out loud.So you guys can't brain wash kids anymore. Now they can pick what they believe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sticshooter View Post
    so much drama. Relax were not Iran.I and many other Christians don't wanna be like Iran.Chill for crying out loud.So you guys can't brain wash kids anymore. Now they can pick what they believe.
    Yeah bro, and they talk about religious brainwashing. What's that H word..oh yeah, hypocrites.
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    I don't see this as a big issue........If parents don't like it they can home school there kid and keep them in a bubble so they don't hear any possible other ideas except what mommy and daddy want them to be....

    I figure this is what religious folks have had to do to keep their kids bubble wrapped fair is fair right.......
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    Quote Originally Posted by BUCKSTER View Post
    I don't see this as a big issue........If parents don't like it they can home school there kid and keep them in a bubble so they don't hear any possible other ideas except what mommy and daddy want them to be....

    I figure this is what religious folks have had to do to keep their kids bubble wrapped fair is fair right.......
    Good point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BUCKSTER View Post
    I don't see this as a big issue........If parents don't like it they can home school there kid and keep them in a bubble so they don't hear any possible other ideas except what mommy and daddy want them to be....

    I figure this is what religious folks have had to do to keep their kids bubble wrapped fair is fair right.......
    huh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BUCKSTER View Post
    I don't see this as a big issue........If parents don't like it they can home school there kid and keep them in a bubble so they don't hear any possible other ideas except what mommy and daddy want them to be....

    I figure this is what religious folks have had to do to keep their kids bubble wrapped fair is fair right.......
    There's a flaw in your argument. If a child's parents want their kids to be taught creationism, it should be a class dedicated strictly to that subject or they should carry the burden of the home schooling, not those who want their kids to be taught something that can help their understanding where we and all life came from. I for one would not tolerate my child's time wasted in school on back door theology.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sticshooter View Post
    so much drama. Relax were not Iran.I and many other Christians don't wanna be like Iran.Chill for crying out loud.So you guys can't brain wash kids anymore. Now they can pick what they believe.

    That's rich....
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    Quote Originally Posted by DougKMN View Post
    That's rich....
    not only that its true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spreggy View Post
    Look, OK, that's just about the most ridiculous thing a person could say. Yes, yes, teach then alchemy, astrology, and creation myths and say they are alternatives to science. Brilliant. We'll be the nation of the dumbest people on the whole planet within a generation. Goodbye world leadership, we're teaching our children to be morons now! Good-bye those of you who put a man on the moon, we're headed for the caves with the other third-world dung-heap nations. Goodbye America, we're a religiously-run nation now, like Iran! Yippee! Hell-fire, Cletus!

    I'm tellin' ya, Lincoln was wrong, he should have let the south go into their merry land of BS, we'd have flying cars up north by now.
    I don't know any Christians that reject science. We all studied science in school just like I imagine you did.

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    Good grief......have any of you guys read the bill.......I'm gonna bet not.....and for that I declare that you guys are pulling crap outta thin air........what magical minds you have.....

    Read the bill then you can get all distraught over what might happen in TN schools cause of this bill......

    http://www.capitol.tn.gov/Bills/107/Bill/HB0368.pdf
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spreggy View Post
    Look, OK, that's just about the most ridiculous thing a person could say. Yes, yes, teach then alchemy, astrology, and creation myths and say they are alternatives to science. Brilliant. We'll be the nation of the dumbest people on the whole planet within a generation. Goodbye world leadership, we're teaching our children to be morons now! Good-bye those of you who put a man on the moon, we're headed for the caves with the other third-world dung-heap nations. Goodbye America, we're a religiously-run nation now, like Iran! Yippee! Hell-fire, Cletus!

    I'm tellin' ya, Lincoln was wrong, he should have let the south go into their merry land of BS, we'd have flying cars up north by now.
    What on Earth are you babbling about? A state's right to determine what its school districts can or cannot teach?

    Quote Originally Posted by ZenBubba View Post
    I don't know any Christians that reject science. We all studied science in school just like I imagine you did.
    Bingo. I agree with you, and I'm not even a spiritual guy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spreggy View Post
    Look, OK, that's just about the most ridiculous thing a person could say. Yes, yes, teach then alchemy, astrology, and creation myths and say they are alternatives to science. Brilliant. We'll be the nation of the dumbest people on the whole planet within a generation. Goodbye world leadership, we're teaching our children to be morons now! Good-bye those of you who put a man on the moon, we're headed for the caves with the other third-world dung-heap nations. Goodbye America, we're a religiously-run nation now, like Iran! Yippee! Hell-fire, Cletus!

    I'm tellin' ya, Lincoln was wrong, he should have let the south go into their merry land of BS, we'd have flying cars up north by now.
    Are you stating equivocally that belief in Creation makes someone a Moron?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrShake View Post
    Are you stating equivocally that belief in Creation makes someone a Moron?
    I am stating unequivocally that teaching creationism as a science is a method for making morons of your students. The same as teaching anything as a science that isn't a science. You might as well teach creationism as a math course.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spreggy View Post
    I am stating unequivocally that teaching creationism as a science is a method for making morons of your students. The same as teaching anything as a science that isn't a science. You might as well teach creationism as a math course.
    I'm not a teacher Spreggy, yet I believe in Creationism.... am I am Moron?

    And who here is asking Creationism to be taught as a science? Its asking to be taught as an alternative to Evolution. Is your entire arguement here is that Creationism isn't a science? If so, your in the wrong conversation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spreggy View Post
    I am stating unequivocally that teaching creationism as a science is a method for making morons of your students. The same as teaching anything as a science that isn't a science. You might as well teach creationism as a math course.
    Don't you subscribe to M or string theory possibilities/realities?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spreggy View Post
    I am stating unequivocally that teaching creationism as a science is a method for making morons of your students. The same as teaching anything as a science that isn't a science. You might as well teach creationism as a math course.
    ^ This. Creationism IS NOT SCIENCE. Therfore it has no business being taught in a science class.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CherryJu1ce View Post
    I don't have a problem with it. Teach the kids as much as possible and let them decide for themselves.
    Bingo!
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    Quote Originally Posted by CherryJu1ce View Post
    I don't have a problem with it. Teach the kids as much as possible and let them decide for themselves.
    Thats one of the craziest things I have read on here in a while.

    "Yeah just tell em a bunch of stuff and let them figure it out on there own"

    Why even have school?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ozzz View Post
    Thats one of the craziest things I have read on here in a while.

    "Yeah just tell em a bunch of stuff and let them figure it out on there own"

    Why even have school?

    I agree! With the NEA and Federal oversight, I've asked myself that same question a BUNCH of times!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Huntin4Elk View Post
    What a joke. Maybe they should teach the Scientology version of what happened too?

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