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    Quote Originally Posted by rattus58 View Post
    well i'm glad i live in hawaii... In this case anyway, because you all up there are really uptight about some pretty innocuous things and you've hyperactive imaginations. I for one don't see dance representations of vaudeville or burlesque as "sexualization" of children. I see it as dance. On the other hand, sucking from a phallus is at best tasteless... And i've other characterizations that come to mind.

    You are also hung up on the woman saying dance like they can't afford you.... You make me laugh citrus... For one thing, she could be like me with limited vocabulary. She could be like me who may have used the vernacular of the day... You know the "roaring twenties"... As i might teaching one to fly in a cub... Stick and rudder... Step on the ball... Etc...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Huntin4Elk View Post
    Ratt.....you have totally nude kids running around your beaches??? Like...what ages are we talking about here???
    Depends on the beach... but at public beaches kids can be seen nude up to age 5 or so. Out of town and more secluded beaches maybe from birth to 80? There are clothing optional places all over Hawaii. It is illegal to be nude in public in Hawaii. That is the law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by citrus View Post
    But, is it fine for the show to be on the air?
    no. It's hard to say where the line should be drawn regarding what can be aired, but this is clearly over the line.
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    Quote Originally Posted by citrus View Post
    You said you didn't care for it but felt they should have the right to be on tv. I asked where would it end and now we see what is viewed as shocking. What will the next need to do to be shocking?
    er, I didnt say I felt they had the right to be on tv
    I dont give a flying what they put in shock value shows because I dont watch said shows
    is this stupid/re-tarded/wrong? yeah, then again I dont watch this flith, so, MEH.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rattus58 View Post
    Well I'm glad I live in Hawaii... in this case anyway, because you all up there are really uptight about some pretty innocuous things and you've hyperactive imaginations. I for one don't see dance representations of vaudeville or burlesque as "sexualization" of children. I see it as dance. On the other hand, sucking from a phallus is at best tasteless... and I've other characterizations that come to mind.

    You are also hung up on the woman saying dance like they can't afford you.... You make me laugh Citrus... for one thing, she could be like me with limited vocabulary. She could be like me who may have used the vernacular of the day... you know the "Roaring Twenties"... as I might teaching one to fly in a cub... stick and rudder... step on the ball... etc...
    +20.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spreggy View Post
    no. It's hard to say where the line should be drawn regarding what can be aired, but this is clearly over the line.
    I agree it is wayyy wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by citrus View Post
    I agree it is wayyy wrong.
    Agreed. But like you, I also think that teaching preadolescents to pole dance for someone 'like they can't afford you' is pretty despicable, too.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Indychris View Post
    Agreed. But like you, I also think that teaching preadolescents to pole dance for someone 'like they can't afford you' is pretty despicable, too.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Indychris View Post
    Agreed. But like you, I also think that teaching preadolescents to pole dance for someone 'like they can't afford you' is pretty despicable, too.


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    that wasn't pole dancing and you guys are beyond repaire...

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    Quote Originally Posted by rattus58 View Post
    that wasn't pole dancing and you guys are beyond repaire...
    Guess I didn't pay as a close attention to the suggestive prepubescent dancers as you, rattus. My mistake. Fortunately, I suppose, there's guys like you that are apparently more tuned into that stuff.


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    Quote Originally Posted by rattus58 View Post
    that wasn't pole dancing and you guys are beyond repaire...
    I'll take that as a compliment. I'll stand up for kids anytime I can!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Indychris View Post
    Guess I didn't pay as a close attention to the suggestive prepubescent dancers as you, rattus. My mistake. Fortunately, I suppose, there's guys like you that are apparently more tuned into that stuff.


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    Well when it comes to representative dance, whether ancient american Indian dance, vaudeville, japanee bon dance, or tahitian and hula, I don't read into it a bunch of perverted sexual innuendo or find any sexualization of kids with it. I don't find girls gynastics or wrestling to be innappropriate nor do I find any act of innocence to be innappropriate. Anyone who would be inappropriately moved by such dance or activity by children... in my opinion, needs to seek help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by citrus View Post
    I'll take that as a compliment. I'll stand up for kids anytime I can!
    then you should stand up for them, not project innappropriate characterization to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rattus58 View Post
    Well when it comes to representative dance, whether ancient american Indian dance, vaudeville, japanee bon dance, or tahitian and hula, I don't read into it a bunch of perverted sexual innuendo or find any sexualization of kids with it. I don't find girls gynastics or wrestling to be innappropriate nor do I find any act of innocence to be innappropriate. Anyone who would be inappropriately moved by such dance or activity by children... in my opinion, needs to seek help.
    That little girl drinking out of her penis cup was an innocent act as well. On her part anyways.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rattus58 View Post
    then you should stand up for them, not project innappropriate characterization to them.
    Show where I have mischaracterized.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huntin4Elk View Post
    That little girl drinking out of her penis cup was an innocent act as well. On her part anyways.
    Innocence of children is to me a very almost sacred thing that I think kids are being robbed of in todays society. I can accept this girls innocence in the cup thing, but the adults here involved with THAT depiction border on child pornography in my opinion...

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    Quote Originally Posted by citrus View Post
    Show where I have mischaracterized.
    I'm not got the time for this anymore... but vaudeville dance of a representative nature is just that, dance. If you see at something else.. well you see it differently and depending on HOW YOU SEE IT... might suggest whether or not you need to seek counseling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rattus58 View Post
    Well when it comes to representative dance, whether ancient american Indian dance, vaudeville, japanee bon dance, or tahitian and hula, I don't read into it a bunch of perverted sexual innuendo or find any sexualization of kids with it. I don't find girls gynastics or wrestling to be innappropriate nor do I find any act of innocence to be innappropriate. Anyone who would be inappropriately moved by such dance or activity by children... in my opinion, needs to seek help.
    What you are failing to grasp is they were specialized on tv. I don't view hula or any other dancing to be harmful to children as long as they aren't sexualized. That means put in a sexually provocative situation, IMHO. If they had a tv show and told little hula girls to dance like men can't afford them, that would be wrong too. Sorry to break up your only crutch, but you aren't getting the idea. I think you are trying to assimilate vaudeville will Burlesque. When Burlesque is done by little kids in flesh colored outfits and told to dance like men can't afford them, that is wrong. Sorry!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rattus58 View Post
    I'm not got the time for this anymore... but vaudeville dance of a representative nature is just that, dance. If you see at something else.. well you see it differently and depending on HOW YOU SEE IT... might suggest whether or not you need to seek counseling.


    SOME of you peeps dont understand simple things, if you see a stick figure of a kid as a sexual & erotic being, maybe counseling would be in order
    dance is just that, dance, you assign the value you want to it

    if you need it explained in better terms, Ill be happy to explain it to you as best I can.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rattus58 View Post
    I'm not got the time for this anymore... but vaudeville dance of a representative nature is just that, dance. If you see at something else.. well you see it differently and depending on HOW YOU SEE IT... might suggest whether or not you need to seek counseling.
    You are too funny! It's not that you don't have time. It's because you won't find where I mischaraterized.

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    We have movies with kids swearing, movies with kids and violence... who cares.

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    Quote Originally Posted by citrus View Post
    What you are failing to grasp is they were specialized on tv. I don't view hula or any other dancing to be harmful to children as long as they aren't sexualized. That means put in a sexually provocative situation, IMHO. If they had a tv show and told little hula girls to dance like men can't afford them, that would be wrong too. Sorry to break up your only crutch, but you aren't getting the idea. I think you are trying to assimilate vaudeville will Burlesque. When Burlesque is done by little kids in flesh colored outfits and told to dance like men can't afford them, that is wrong. Sorry!
    ok, but do you have an issue with the dance itself?
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    Quote Originally Posted by citrus View Post
    You are too funny! It's not that you don't have time. It's because you won't find where I mischaraterized.
    its because just about nobody can explain it to you with all your
    READ & TRY understand what he is saying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by citrus View Post
    You are too funny! It's not that you don't have time. It's because you won't find where I mischaraterized.
    Do you or don't you see kids dancing as a sexualization of kids? Do you or don't you see those kids in a sexual way?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jkcerda View Post


    SOME of you peeps dont understand simple things, if you see a stick figure of a kid as a sexual & erotic being, maybe counseling would be in order
    dance is just that, dance, you assign the value you want to it

    if you need it explained in better terms, Ill be happy to explain it to you as best I can.
    It doesn't have anything to do with us. It has to Dow ith the fact the little girls were put in a situation where they were sexualized. Different levels between the tv show and the pink root, but in the same realm. You and Rattus can try all you want to weasel out, but you can't.

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