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    Contradictions...part 1

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    Contradictions?


    GE 1:3-5 On the first day, God created light, then separated light and darkness.
    GE 1:14-19 The sun (which separates night and day) wasn't created until the fourth day.
    GE 1:11-12, 26-27 Trees were created before man was created.
    GE 2:4-9 Man was created before trees were created.
    GE 1:20-21, 26-27 Birds were created before man was created.
    GE 2:7, 19 Man was created before birds were created.
    GE 1:24-27 Animals were created before man was created.
    GE 2:7, 19 Man was created before animals were created.
    GE 1:26-27 Man and woman were created at the same time.
    GE 2:7, 21-22 Man was created first, woman sometime later.
    GE 1:28 God encourages reproduction.
    LE 12:1-8 God requires purification rites following childbirth which, in effect, makes childbirth a sin. (Note: The period for purification following the birth of a daughter is twice that for a son.)
    GE 1:31 God was pleased with his creation.
    GE 6:5-6 God was not pleased with his creation.
    (Note: That God should be displeased is inconsistent with the concept of omniscience.)
    GE 2:4, 4:26, 12:8, 22:14-16, 26:25 God was already known as "the Lord" (Jahveh or Jehovah) much earlier than the time of Moses.
    EX 6:2-3 God was first known as "the Lord" (Jahveh or Jehovah) at the time of the Egyptian Bondage, during the life of Moses.
    GE 2:17 Adam was to die the very day that he ate the forbidden fruit.
    GE 5:5 Adam lived 930 years.
    GE 2:15-17, 3:4-6 It is wrong to want to be able to tell good from evil.
    HE 5:13-14 It is immature to be unable to tell good from evil.
    GE 4:4-5 God prefers Abel's offering and has no regard for Cain's.
    2CH 19:7, AC 10:34, RO 2:11 God shows no partiality. He treats all alike.
    GE 4:9 God asks Cain where his brother Able is.
    PR 15:3, JE 16:17, 23:24-25, HE 4:13 God is everywhere. He sees everything. Nothing is hidden from his view.
    GE 4:15, DT 32:19-27, IS 34:8 God is a vengeful god.
    EX 15:3, IS 42:13, HE 12:29 God is a warrior. God is a consuming fire.
    EX 20:5, 34:14, DT 4:24, 5:9, 6:15, 29:20, 32:21 God is a jealous god.
    LE 26:7-8, NU 31:17-18, DT 20:16-17, JS 10:40, JG 14:19, EZ 9:5-7 The Spirit of God is (sometimes) murder and killing.
    NU 25:3-4, DT 6:15, 9:7-8, 29:20, 32:21, PS 7:11, 78:49, JE 4:8, 17:4, 32:30-31, ZP 2:2 God is angry. His anger is sometimes fierce.
    2SA 22:7-8 (KJV) "I called to the Lord; ... he heard my voice; ... The earth trembled and quaked, ... because he was angry. Smoke came from his nostrils. Consuming fire came from his mouth, burning coals blazed out of it."
    EZ 6:12, NA 1:2, 6 God is jealous and furious. He reserves wrath for, and takes revenge on, his enemies. "... who can abide in the fierceness of his anger? His fury is poured out like fire, and rocks are thrown down by him."
    2CO 13:11, 14, 1JN 4:8, 16 God is love.
    GA 5:22-23 The fruit of the Spirit of God is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control.
    GE 4:16 Cain went away (or out) from the presence of the Lord.
    JE 23:23-24 A man cannot hide from God. God fills heaven and earth.
    GE 6:4 There were Nephilim (giants) before the Flood.
    GE 7:21 All creatures other than Noah and his clan were annihilated by the Flood.
    NU 13:33 There were Nephilim after the Flood.
    GE 6:6. EX 32:14, NU 14:20, 1SA 15:35, 2SA 24:16 God does change his mind.
    NU 23:19-20, 1SA 15:29, JA 1:17 God does not change his mind.
    GE 6:19-22, 7:8-9, 7:14-16 Two of each kind are to be taken, and are taken, aboard Noah's Ark.
    GE 7:2-5 Seven pairs of some kinds are to be taken (and are taken) aboard the Ark.
    GE 7:1 Noah was righteous.
    JB 1:1,8, JB 2:3 Job was righteous.
    LK 1:6 Zechariah and Elizabeth were righteous.
    JA 5:16 Some men are righteous, (which makes their prayers effective).
    1JN 3:6-9 Christians become righteous (or else they are not really Christians).
    RO 3:10, 3:23, 1JN 1:8-10 No one was or is righteous.
    GE 7:7 Noah and his clan enter the Ark.
    GE 7:13 They enter the Ark (again?).
    GE 11:7-9 God sows discord.
    PR 6:16-19 God hates anyone who sows discord.
    GE 11:9 At Babel, the Lord confused the language of the whole world.
    1CO 14:33 Paul says that God is not the author of confusion.
    GE 11:12 Arpachshad [Arphaxad] was the father of Shelah.
    LK 3:35-36 Cainan was the father of Shelah. Arpachshad was the grandfather of Shelah.
    GE 11:26 Terah was 70 years old when his son Abram was born.
    GE 11:32 Terah was 205 years old when he died (making Abram 135 at the time).
    GE 12:4, AC 7:4 Abram was 75 when he left Haran. This was after Terah died. Thus, Terah could have been no more than 145 when he died; or Abram was only 75 years old after he had lived 135 years.
    GE 12:7, 17:1, 18:1, 26:2, 32:30, EX 3:16, 6:2-3, 24:9-11, 33:11, NU 12:7-8, 14:14, JB 42:5, AM 7:7-8, 9:1 God is seen.
    EX 33:20, JN 1:18, 1JN 4:12 God is not seen. No one can see God's face and live. No one has ever seen him.
    GE 10:5, 20, 31 There were many languages before the Tower of Babel.
    GE 11:1 There was only one language before the Tower of Babel.
    GE 15:9, EX 20:24, 29:10-42, LE 1:1-7:38, NU 28:1-29:40, God details sacrificial offerings.
    JE 7:21-22 God says he did no such thing.
    GE 16:15, 21:1-3, GA 4:22 Abraham had two sons, Ishmael and Isaac.
    HE 11:17 Abraham had only one son.
    GE 17:1, 35:11, 1CH 29:11-12, LK 1:37 God is omnipotent. Nothing is impossible with (or for) God.
    JG 1:19 Although God was with Judah, together they could not defeat the plainsmen because the latter had iron chariots.
    GE 17:7, 10-11 The covenant of circumcision is to be everlasting.
    GA 6:15 It is of no consequence.
    GE 17:8 God promises Abraham the land of Canaan as an "everlasting possession." GE 25:8, AC 7:2-5, HE 11:13 Abraham died with the promise unfulfilled.
    GE 17:15-16, 20:11-12, 22:17 Abraham and his half sister, Sarai, are married and receive God's blessings.
    LE 20:17, DT 27:20-23 Incest is wrong.
    GE 18:20-21 God decides to "go down" to see what is going on.
    PR 15:3, JE 16:17, 23:24-25, HE 4:13 God is everywhere. He sees everything. Nothing is hidden from his view.
    GE 19:30-38 While he is drunk, Lot's two daughters "lie with him," become pregnant, and give birth to his offspring.
    2PE 2:7 Lot was "just" and "righteous."
    GE 22:1-12, DT 8:2 God tempts (tests) Abraham and Moses.
    JG 2:22 God himself says that he does test (tempt).
    1CO 10:13 Paul says that God controls the extent of our temptations.
    JA 1:13 God tests (tempts) no one.
    GE 27:28 "May God give you ... an abundance of grain and new wine."
    DT 7:13 If they follow his commandments, God will bless the fruit of their wine.
    PS 104:15 God gives us wine to gladden the heart.
    JE 13:12 "... every bottle shall be filled with wine."
    JN 2:1-11 According to the author of John, Jesus' first miracle was turning water to wine.
    RO 14:21 It is good to refrain from drinking wine.
    GE 35:10 God says Jacob is to be called Jacob no longer; henceforth his name is Israel.
    GE 46:2 At a later time, God himself uses the name Jacob.
    GE 36:11 The sons of Eliphaz were Teman, Omar, Zepho, Gatam, and Kenaz.
    GE 36:15-16 Teman, Omar, Zepho, Kenaz.
    1CH 1:35-36 Teman, Omar, Zephi, Gatam, Kenaz, Timna, and Amalek.
    GE 49:2-28 The fathers of the twelve tribes of Israel are: Reuben, Simeon, Levi, Judah, Zebulun, Issachar, Dan, Gad, Asher, Naphtali, Joseph, and Benjamin.
    RE 7:4-8 (Leaves out the tribe of Dan, but adds Manasseh.)
    GE 50:13 Jacob was buried in a cave at Machpelah bought from Ephron the Hittite.
    AC 7:15-16 He was buried in the sepulchre at Shechem, bought from the sons of Hamor.
    EX 3:1 Jethro was the father-in-law of Moses.
    NU 10:29, JG 4:11 (KJV) Hobab was the father-in-law of Moses.
    EX 3:20-22, DT 20:13-17 God instructs the Israelites to despoil the Egyptians, to plunder their enemies.
    EX 20:15, 17, LE 19:13 God prohibits stealing, defrauding, or robbing a neighbor.
    EX 4:11 God decides who will be dumb, deaf, blind, etc.
    2CO 13:11, 14, 1JN 4:8, 16 God is a god of love.
    EX 9:3-6 God destroys all the cattle (including horses) belonging to the Egyptians.
    EX 9:9-11 The people and the cattle are afflicted with boils.
    EX 12:12, 29 All the first-born of the cattle of the Egyptians are destroyed.
    EX 14:9 After having all their cattle destroyed, then afflicted with boils, and then their first-born cattle destroyed, the Egyptians pursue Moses on horseback.
    EX 12:13 The Israelites have to mark their houses with blood in order for God to see which houses they occupy and "pass over" them.
    PR 15:3, JE 16:17, 23:24-25, HE 4:13 God is everywhere. He sees everything. Nothing is hidden from God.
    EX 12:37, NU 1:45-46 The number of men of military age who take part in the Exodus is given as more than 600,000. Allowing for women, children, and older men would probably mean that a total of about 2,000,000 Israelites left Egypt.
    1KI 20:15 All the Israelites, including children, number only 7000 at a later time.
    EX 15:3, 17:16, NU 25:4, 32:14, IS 42:13 God is a man of war--he is fierce and angry.
    RO 15:33, 2CO 13:11, 14, 1JN 4:8, 16 God is a god of love and peace.
    EX 20:1-17 God gave the law directly to Moses (without using an intermediary).
    GA 3:19 The law was ordained through angels by a mediator (an intermediary).
    EX 20:4 God prohibits the making of any graven images whatsoever.
    EX 25:18 God enjoins the making of two graven images.
    EX 20:5, 34:7, NU 14:18, DT 5:9, IS 14:21-22 Children are to suffer for their parent's sins.
    DT 24:16, EZ 18:19-20 Children are not to suffer for their parent's sins.
    EX 20:8-11, 31:15-17, 35:1-3 No work is to be done on the Sabbath, not even lighting a fire. The commandment is permanent, and death is required for infractions.
    MK 2:27-28 Jesus says that the Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath (after his disciples were criticized for breaking the Sabbath).
    RO 14:5, CN 2:14-16 Paul says the Sabbath commandment was temporary, and to decide for yourself regarding its observance.
    EX 20:12, DT 5:16, MT 15:4, 19:19, MK 7:10, 10:19, LK 18:20 Honor your father and your mother is one of the ten commandments. It is reinforced by Jesus.
    MT 10:35-37, LK 12:51-53, 14:26 Jesus says that he has come to divide families; that a man's foes will be those of his own household; that you must hate your father, mother, wife, children, brothers, sisters, and even your own life to be a disciple.
    MT 23:9 Jesus says to call no man on earth your father.
    EX 20:13, DT 5:17, MK 10:19, LK 18:20, RO 13:9, JA 2:11 God prohibits killing.
    GE 34:1-35:5 God condones trickery and killing.
    EX 32:27, DT 7:2, 13:15, 20:1-18 God orders killing.
    2KI 19:35 An angel of the Lord slaughters 185,000 men.
    (Note: See Atrocities section for many more examples.)
    EX 20:14 God prohibits adultery.
    HO 1:2 God instructs Hosea to "take a wife of harlotry."
    EX 21:23-25, LE 24:20, DT 19:21 A life for a life, an eye for an eye, etc.
    MT 5:38-44, LK 6:27-29 Turn the other cheek. Love your enemies.
    EX 23:7 God prohibits the killing of the innocent.
    NU 31:17-18, DT 7:2, JS 6:21-27, 7:19-26, 8:22-25, 10:20, 40, 11:8-15, 20, JG 11:30-39, 21:10-12, 1SA 15:3 God orders or approves the complete extermination of groups of people which include innocent women and/or children.
    (Note: See Atrocities section for many other examples of the killing of innocents.)
    EX 34:6, DT 7:9-10, TS 1:2 God is faithful and truthful. He does not lie.
    NU 14:30 God breaks his promise.
    EX 34:6, DT 7:9-10, TS 1:2 God is faithful and truthful. He does not lie.
    1KI 22:21-23 God condones a spirit of deception.
    EX 34:6, DT 7:9-10, TS 1:2 God is faithful and truthful. He does not lie.
    2TH 2:11-12 God deludes people, making them believe what is false, so as to be able to condemn them. (Note: some versions use the word persuade here. The context makes clear, however, that deception is involved.)
    EX 34:6-7, JS 24:19, 1CH 16:34 God is faithful, holy and good.
    IS 45:6-7, LA 3:8, AM 3:6 God is responsible for evil.
    EX 34:6-7, HE 9:27 God remembers sin, even when it has been forgiven.
    JE 31:34 God does not remember sin when it has been forgiven.
    LE 3:17 God himself prohibits forever the eating of blood and fat.
    MT 15:11, CN 2:20-22 Jesus and Paul say that such rules don't matter--they are only human injunctions.
    LE 19:18, MT 22:39 Love your neighbor [as much as] yourself.
    1CO 10:24 Put your neighbor ahead of yourself.
    LE 21:10 The chief priest is not to rend his clothes.
    MT 26:65, MK 14:63 He does so during the trial of Jesus.
    LE 25:37, PS 15:1, 5 It is wrong to lend money at interest.
    MT 25:27, LK 19:23-27 It is wrong to lend money without interest.
    NU 11:33 God inflicts sickness.
    JB 2:7 Satan inflicts sickness.
    NU 15:24-28 Sacrifices can, in at least some case, take away sin.
    HE 10:11 They never take away sin.
    NU 25:9 24,000 died in the plague.
    1CO 10:8 23,000 died in the plague.
    NU 30:2 God enjoins the making of vows (oaths).
    MT 5:33-37 Jesus forbids doing so, saying that they arise from evil (or the Devil).
    NU 33:38 Aaron died on Mt. Hor.
    DT 10:6 Aaron died in Mosera.
    NU 33:41-42 After Aaron's death, the Israelites journeyed from Mt. Hor, to Zalmonah, to Punon, etc.
    DT 10:6-7 It was from Mosera, to Gudgodah, to Jotbath.
    DT 6:15, 9:7-8, 29:20, 32:21 God is sometimes angry.
    MT 5:22 Anger is a sin.
    DT 7:9-10 God destroys his enemies.
    MT 5:39-44 Do not resist your enemies. Love them.
    DT 18:20-22 A false prophet is one whose words do not come true. Death is required.
    EZ 14:9 A prophet who is deceived, is deceived by God himself. Death is still required.
    DT 23:1 A castrate may not enter the assembly of the Lord.
    IS 56:4-5 Some castrates will receive special rewards.
    DT 23:1 A castrate may not enter the assembly of the Lord.
    MT 19:12 Men are encouraged to consider making themselves castrates for the sake of the Kingdom of God.
    DT 24:1-5 A man can divorce his wife simply because she displeases him and both he and his wife can remarry.
    MK 10:2-12 Divorce is wrong, and to remarry is to commit adultery.
    DT 24:16, 2KI 14:6, 2CH 25:4, EZ 18:20 Children are not to suffer for their parent's sins.
    RO 5:12, 19, 1CO 15:22 Death is passed to all men by the sin of Adam.
    DT 30:11-20 It is possible to keep the law.
    RO 3:20-23 It is not possible to keep the law.
    JS 11:20 God shows no mercy to some.
    LK 6:36, JA 5:11 God is merciful.
    JG 4:21 Sisera was sleeping when Jael killed him.
    JG 5:25-27 Sisera was standing.
    JS 10:38-40 Joshua himself captured Debir.
    JG 1:11-15 It was Othniel, who thereby obtained the hand of Caleb's daughter, Achsah.
    1SA 8:2-22 Samuel informs God as to what he has heard from others.
    PR 15:3, JE 16:17, 23:24-25, HE 4:13 God is everywhere. He sees and hears everything.
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    I love Jesus.... and all his contradictions... makes him human....

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    and do you have a link to the site you copied this from ?
    if a woman starts hitting me and won't stop , she's gonna get her lips tapped.

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    Oh Man, what rule would it be breaking? I can't keep up with all these crazy rules.

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    Hey stic... Just a note:
    Your current avatar of the Lion.........


    It kinda looks like Kokopellii....

    just saying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rattus58 View Post
    I love Jesus.... and all his contradictions... makes him human....
    It's just reading material...something different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soocom1 View Post
    Hey stic... Just a note:
    Your current avatar of the Lion.........


    It kinda looks like Kokopellii....

    just saying.
    hahashj really??? Isn't that some fertility deity?kinda looks like alien?
    if a woman starts hitting me and won't stop , she's gonna get her lips tapped.

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    Well, yeah. That is what happens whe stories are finally written down after a thousand years of oral tradition, then retold and translate countless times by people with political motives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sticshooter View Post
    hahashj really??? Isn't that some fertility deity?kinda looks like alien?
    With a BIG member...
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    Quote Originally Posted by sticshooter View Post
    and do you have a link to the site you copied this from ?
    A friend of mine in another state emailed it to me in 4 parts.....just thought it was interesting to read.It gets better

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZenBubba View Post
    Oh Man, what rule would it be breaking? I can't keep up with all these crazy rules.
    Well, they even come up with new specific ones too.
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    This would been way more interesting if it had the corresponding bible study.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MN_Chick View Post
    Well, yeah. That is what happens whe stories are finally written down after a thousand years of oral tradition, then retold and translate countless times by people with political motives.
    Not sure about your thousands of years. But the Gospels were written

    Matthew: 37 to 100 ad/ce

    Mark: 40 to 73 ad/ce

    Luke: 50 to 100 ad/ce

    John: 65 to 100 ad/ce
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    Quote Originally Posted by MN_Chick View Post
    Well, yeah. That is what happens whe stories are finally written down after a thousand years of oral tradition, then retold and translate countless times by people with political motives.
    The story of Jesus is just a regurgitated retelling of the story of Horus. They didn't even change some of the names.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sticshooter View Post
    Not sure about your thousands of years. But the Gospels were written

    Matthew: 37 to 100 ad/ce

    Mark: 40 to 73 ad/ce

    Luke: 50 to 100 ad/ce

    John: 65 to 100 ad/ce
    The gospels, yes. But these contradictions include the OT, you know, the rest of the bible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MoBo Act 4:12 View Post
    Well, they even come up with new specific ones too.
    I got a lot done the last time I got banned, so there's an upside.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MN_Chick View Post
    The gospels, yes. But these contradictions include the OT, you know, the rest of the bible.
    if you guys would spend just a little of the time you spend on here and check these so called contradictions out on the web you all might learn something.Just saying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sticshooter View Post
    if you guys would spend just a little of the time you spend on here and check these so called contradictions out on the web you all might learn something.Just saying.
    .... heck I might learn somethin....

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    Hijacking getting really bad here latly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZenBubba View Post
    I got a lot done the last time I got banned, so there's an upside.
    I got a lot of work done around the also.
    if a woman starts hitting me and won't stop , she's gonna get her lips tapped.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rattus58 View Post
    .... heck I might learn somethin....
    You know plenty bro.
    if a woman starts hitting me and won't stop , she's gonna get her lips tapped.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IChim2 View Post
    Hijacking getting really bad here latly.
    In my case is a disability...

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    Quote Originally Posted by sticshooter View Post
    You know plenty bro.
    Thank you... I'll try to not let it go to my head....

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3dn4jc View Post
    Hehe..... Long day....

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