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    It's been way too long since the time when you'd see tons of Martin bows at a target shoot!


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    All this talk against the 3 piece risers - why? Have you had some issues with it or is it just in your head? (My guess is the second option ).

    I have a 2011 Onza 3 and I have no problem with how the (3-piece) riser is implemented.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantonza View Post
    All this talk against the 3 piece risers - why? Have you had some issues with it or is it just in your head? (My guess is the second option ).

    I have a 2011 Onza 3 and I have no problem with how the (3-piece) riser is implemented.
    I've had no issues with my rytera alien x either and to say it has been shot alot would be an understatement.


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    Nitrous Shoot-Thru! on scepter 2 38 aa 7 inch brace height martin bring back the good old bows

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost23 View Post
    So, who is the new CEO?
    I'm curious, too. How long has it been since the "change" has been announced, but we still haven't been told who the new CEO is -- especially since the announcement states that they have already come on board? I'm not a fan of the bows ever since my son's two Tiger bows warped and the less than stellar CS I received, but I'm particularly curious how this is going to affect AT, as I enjoy learning stuff on here, and have even had the benefit of meeting folks from this forum (oh, and the Classifieds rock, too!).

    Quite frankly, my smokescreen detector went off with the announcement. It smacks of "takeover" or "sold", if you ask me. Why isn't the new CEO one of the Martins? Why bring someone from outside on board as the CEO (national sales manager, I can understand)? Maybe I'm just skeptical after what our hospital has recently gone through, but when there are rumors that get silenced and then shortly after there is a new announcement about "changes", red flags go up. Our hospital had a rumor that our CEO was being forced out last January (2011). Those rumors were denied, denied, denied. Then, BAM, our CEO announces her "retirement" -- effective in 2 weeks. The CEO before her gave 6 months notice of his retirement. Our new CEO comes on board last summer, and in the fall, the rumor started about layoffs. Denied, denied, denied. In March, we had layoffs.

    So, the announcement raises more questions: Why the sudden change? Why bring someone in from outside the company when things are "perfectly fine?" Who is the new CEO? Who appointed the CEO? Is this tied in with the lawsuit in any way/ coming about because of it?

    One of my high school friends is a staff shooter for Martin, so I hope things continue to go well, for his sake at least (of course, if not, then maybe I can convince him to be a staff shooter for my favorite company!).

    We wanted to share some news of positive changes taking place at Martin Archery. Gail Martin, our founder and elder statesman, has finally decided to cut back his involvement in the company and enjoy some well earned fishing time. To partially fill the gap that Gail will leave, a new CEO and National Sales Manager came on board to strengthen the Martin Archery team. With the addition of these new experienced executives, Martin Archery is moving forward with an aggressive marketing plan and new strategies that will benefit everyone associated with Martin Archery.
    Martin Archery’s major focus area for 2013 will be to strengthen the product line for Pro Shops and aggressively partner with them. We will be looking at ways to increase market presence and sales through faster order delivery times as well as continually improving quality control, and better customer service.
    Our 2013 line will keep the best of our current models complimented by the introduction of three new bows. We will have the strongest bow lineup Martin Archery has ever produced. Eleven uniquely different models will make up a Pro and Gold series that will surely please the whole cross section current and future Martin customers.
    We will keep you updated as these new products are near completion. This is an exciting time for the future of Martin Archery.
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    Dear Martin, How to get me BACK into a Martin
    38" ATA, 7 1/2" brace, 330fps IBO, SPLIT slightly beyond parallel limbs with the X cams and a shoot through riser..... +/- 2-3% on the specs.

    Think Scepter V with a shoot through riser that looks more like the Onza 3 (LOVE a braced riser bow!) sporting split limbs and X cams.
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    Quote Originally Posted by roosclan View Post
    Why bring someone from outside on board as the CEO
    Change, hopefully for the better.

    I would consider buying another Martin if they had a full on long ata comp bow with Barnsdale limbs, fixed the cam issues, better quality control and went back to a normal grip (like the shadowcat or Alien Z). Loved shooting my Martins, even better was not needing a press to dissasemble the bow. I miss that.

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    ***? I try to answer this thread but I get an announcement: "Your new Post was Rejected due to a spam score of: 11.5 The Rejection limit is set to: 5. Please do not attempt to post spam at the AT forums, your attempts will be rejected & your user account banned."

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    A new attempt.

    I think some of the suggestions would need more explanation to be understood. Such as:

    Mahly wrote: "Dear Martin, How to get me BACK into a Martin ...SPLIT slightly beyond parallel limbs"

    Why do you prefer split limbs exactly?

    Destroyer wrote:
    "...and went back to a normal grip (like the shadowcat or Alien Z)"

    And why is that? I know it may be a personal preference - I personally appreciate the narrow grips of the most new models: it is very comfortable and does not induce torque. But I am not the only one who likes the current grip style. Bowhunting World magazine gave very good reviews for the grip of Bengal Pro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantonza View Post
    All this talk against the 3 piece risers - why? Have you had some issues with it or is it just in your head? (My guess is the second option ).

    I have a 2011 Onza 3 and I have no problem with how the (3-piece) riser is implemented.
    I've had a few Martin and Rytera bows with 3 piece risers. (2) FireCats, Rytera Nemesis and a 2010 Alien-Z. Haven't had a hint of a problem and the Alien-Z has many, many thousands of arrows through it. During just this past winter indoor season I had to average at least 500 shots a week for 14 weeks and it's now happy on the 3D range. A very conservative estimate of me personally putting 20,000 shots on (4) 3 piece rise bows without a prob has me satisfied the 3 piece risers built by Martin and Rytera are very sturdy. I don't think a sloppy riser would be able to knock down 58+ X's consistently and take home 2 ASA checks.
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    My recommendation:
    - Build and assemble all your bows with the same quality control and precision as my 2010 Rytera Alien-Z as it came out of the box flawless with the exception of me adding very thin washers on the roller guard axle. Personally, I prefer slides to roller guards. Do not let anyone have the experiences I had with the '09 Nemesis and '08 FireCat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    - Deliver new models on time and with excellent quality control and materials.
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    I'm still bustin limbs but have never had a single glich with the three piece risers. If it keeps the cost down and speeds up production so we're not waiting 3-4 months to get a bow delivered,Hell!- it works for me! Love 'em or leave 'em, haven't had a Martin yet(or any other brand) that matched the IBO speed advertised but they sure do shoot well, and that's what counts! Hell, I'm getting too old to pull 70 lbs anyway.

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    Things that might get more people looking at Martins:

    More target color options, get some blues, oranges, greens, in the line-up

    Shoot thru riser, would be awesome to see Martin bring this back

    Build a speed bow that pushes 360 fps but is easy to draw and not a 70 lb version (many archers are drawn to speed bows)

    Put Joel in a copy machine and make 4 duplicates of him! He is the best when it comes to resolving any issues!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantonza View Post
    A new attempt.

    I think some of the suggestions would need more explanation to be understood. Such as:

    Mahly wrote: "Dear Martin, How to get me BACK into a Martin ...SPLIT slightly beyond parallel limbs"

    Why do you prefer split limbs exactly?

    Destroyer wrote:
    "...and went back to a normal grip (like the shadowcat or Alien Z)"

    And why is that? I know it may be a personal preference - I personally appreciate the narrow grips of the most new models: it is very comfortable and does not induce torque. But I am not the only one who likes the current grip style. Bowhunting World magazine gave very good reviews for the grip of Bengal Pro.
    I have had more than one set of solid limbs fail....2 split right down the middle inline with the cams (Guess they just WANTED to be split limbs LOL!) and another split inline with the axle (probably not related to being a solid limb).

    Since going to split limb bows, I have yet to have ANY kind of limb failure. I think they are easier to produce flawlessly than solid limbs, and the fact that so many of the top performing bows use split limbs is not lost on me (PSE, Hoyt, Strother etc.)


    I'm with you on the skinny grips though. I HATE a fat grip! Solution...skinny grip riser, optional fat 1 piece grips to bolt on.
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    As a long time Martin/Rytera dealer.... great to hear.

    The line has not generated very much interest in this neck of the woods the past few years.

    Have not seen our sales rep either???
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    sounds great!! I wish Gail many more days and hope he enjoys them all.

    I am sporting a Elite logo these days, but I still love shooting my FireCat. Best of luck and hope to own more Martins in the future.
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    Give us an x system shoot through in 36" ata .

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    if the qc improves, one piece risers, good strings, quiet----i will be back-looking foward to the 2013!

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    The three peice risors durabillity doesn't seem to be a problem, if they can't anodize them because of it. Then that is. We need some good durable anodized color options. Not cheesy film dip and old school painted finishes.
    I'm with alot of others wanting the return of the dual cam, three track X-cam. These cams need to have 65% - 70% let off modules , 80% sould be a different modules. None of this 80% adjustable junk. The lower letoff
    is necessary to many target and 3-D shooters.

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    I hope the first change they make is making good on their prostaff contracts! Isn't a contract binding?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantonza View Post
    And why is that? I know it may be a personal preference
    The grip on my Shadowcat was just about perfect, yes my personal preference.

    Quote Originally Posted by SWOKarcher View Post
    We need some good durable anodized color options.

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    Best of luck to Gail on just chilling.
    If someone from Martin is truly reading this post.... Why is it that the ATA is getting shorter?
    I know that the numbers of us that shoot fingers is getting smaller, but come on. The Shadowcat is the best finger bow that I have shot of all the bows out there, for me.
    Now with dropping the Shadowcat and bringing back the Septer you (Martin) are looking the other way from us finger shooters. All I ever will shoot is a Shadowcat and I have 3 of them for backup bows because they are going to have to last me the rest of my shooting life because I will not shoot the other brands, I don't want to fall into that group of "everone shoots this brand", does this make sence?
    Please bring back a long ATA bow, they will sell.
    BTW....The California State Broadhead Championships, both adult and senior non-sight finger classes were won with Shadowcats.http://www.cbhsaa.net/2012-B.pdf
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    Quote Originally Posted by roosclan View Post
    I'm curious, too. How long has it been since the "change" has been announced, but we still haven't been told who the new CEO is -- especially since the announcement states that they have already come on board? I'm not a fan of the bows ever since my son's two Tiger bows warped and the less than stellar CS I received, but I'm particularly curious how this is going to affect AT, as I enjoy learning stuff on here, and have even had the benefit of meeting folks from this forum (oh, and the Classifieds rock, too!).

    Quite frankly, my smokescreen detector went off with the announcement. It smacks of "takeover" or "sold", if you ask me. Why isn't the new CEO one of the Martins? Why bring someone from outside on board as the CEO (national sales manager, I can understand)? Maybe I'm just skeptical after what our hospital has recently gone through, but when there are rumors that get silenced and then shortly after there is a new announcement about "changes", red flags go up. Our hospital had a rumor that our CEO was being forced out last January (2011). Those rumors were denied, denied, denied. Then, BAM, our CEO announces her "retirement" -- effective in 2 weeks. The CEO before her gave 6 months notice of his retirement. Our new CEO comes on board last summer, and in the fall, the rumor started about layoffs. Denied, denied, denied. In March, we had layoffs.

    So, the announcement raises more questions: Why the sudden change? Why bring someone in from outside the company when things are "perfectly fine?" Who is the new CEO? Who appointed the CEO? Is this tied in with the lawsuit in any way/ coming about because of it?

    One of my high school friends is a staff shooter for Martin, so I hope things continue to go well, for his sake at least (of course, if not, then maybe I can convince him to be a staff shooter for my favorite company!).


    This is exactly what i have been thinking since this thread came out a couple of weeks ago.... SMOKESCREEN DETECTOR
    I find it funny that the 2012 line is being treated as the red headed step child in a way.......as the 2013 line is going to be this difference maker.............wasn't the 2012 line a few months ago touted as the best ever in years....lol

    Here is what my dealer told me a couple of years ago......
    1. Martin has been for sale for awhile....quietly though
    2. one of the sons like to mess with these celebrity autograph and memorabilia crap on the side (his passion i guess) rather than the archery business....& travels all over for these conventions of sorts...........
    3. the sons don't have the education to run a business like the guy that is now hired, which his educational background easily qualifies him to run a business from a day to day standpoint. You need a guy with a marketing degree as well as business administration background or degree.
    4. The best thing for Martin archery was to bring someone in from the outside, because we all know that Martin was and is going the wrong direction and they aren't going to keep their doors open for a few more years at the rate they were going........
    5. Some might look at this move as a last ditch effort...............?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AdvanTimberLou View Post

    Put Joel in a copy machine and make 4 duplicates of him! He is the best when it comes to resolving any issues!

    Agree 110%
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