I'm going to try big and beasty this year.
I'm going to try big and beasty this year.
"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote." - Benjamin Franklin
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Big and beasty has some wonderful things in it
The bonar rape is a longer maturity rape
The daikon radish is overlooked and i love it and use it for many applications
The pasja brassica is sweet
the dwarf essex rape will grow anywhere
The product should be about $4 a lb and i'm sure it sells for $10/lb One can buy rape for about $1/lb, the radish for $3/lb, the brassica for $3.50 a lb, the carrots for $6 a lb and the bonar rape for about $3/lb so.....a solid mix but for those who can buy separate ingredients from their local supplier, that would help the bargain shoppers. Or i know deer creek seed company has a new mix called prime time brassica that is like $17.95 for 5 lb bag. It has pasja brassica, radish, premier kale and winfred brassica. I put 1 acre in myself the other day.
I planted a different brassica mix last year. They deer really hammered it in the late season (Dec/Jan in IL). Does the Big and Beasty draw deer in Oct/Nov?
i'll walk people through the following forages....
this product has forage rapes, sugar beets, forage turnips, and daikon radishes.
they recommend 4 lbs an acre which is very low considering the products in it. Sugar beets i love but they also don't compete well unless in high enough % of mixes. They also don't like much moisture. I can talk sugar beets all day but i'll stop right there.
So, sugar beets can be planted earlier than many brassicas and i like the sugar content.
Forage rapes come with many different maturities and crosses. There are numerous trials of rapes out there and rapes in general i love. Their maturities come from 42-150 day maturities. If someone told me what forage rape was in big and beasty, i can't tell you how good it is, or how deer will consume it. I know which are consummed better than others, though.
Radishes are radishes no matter what fancy name someone puts on the tag, there are a small handfull of growers of daikon radish in the US, and i'll stop right there. Deer can eat it in september but in my area they nibble, then shut down until late January and early february. This is when i need them to be eating them anyways. I love radish to scavenge nutrients and loosen the soil up. They grow super fast and are pretty tolerant to various pH's and soils.
Lastly, the forage turnip. There are not many varieties of it and i believe i read which one is in the mix. It's also the one i use.
I love the mix but i prefer one called prime time brassica. It sells for $20 per 5lb bag which is believe is half the cost of big and beasty. It also shows exactly the variety of rapes and turnips. one can get it through www.advancedwhitetailhunting.com
Got .7 acres put in on Sunday and got 1.5" of rain on Monday. Stuff should be knee high by now.
I planted big n Beasty along a plot of Frigid Forage Clover. I wanted to plant some just to see how the spring application worked. It wasn't bad. I think I planted it on too thick as it burnt out. Patches started growing but quickly died. It had plenty of rain.
Two days ago I planted my summer application. Two straight days of rain has happened.
My question is, did anyone else get some weird grass? I sprayed twice before spring application and there is a weird grass with seeds. I mostly got it in my clover patch.
Wet years, wet soils leads to funky weeds. I even stumped the UW weed specialists on one ditty this spring. Yellowing is an excess water issue due to lower soil oxygen and lower nitrogen from soil leaching. There also can be plant disease issues or insect pressure. I got a report of army worms today....
My big and beasty is coming in just awesome!
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Nice plots fellas! I put some B&B in a few years back, came up great until first cold snap (had an earlier than normal cold snap that year). Deer then mowed it to the ground over a 2-3week stretch just prior to the archery opener (Oct. 1st). Wish I would have had it in the ground 2-3 weeks prior than I did that year it may have faired a bit better, my brassicas never made it to maturity for later year forage. Deer keyed in on the rape early on that first cold snap and it was all over after they did. It was little more than a dirt patch by Halloween that year. I planted the third week of august that year (NE IL), I should have had it in the ground by August 1st IMO to give it a better shot at maturing before it got mowed down.
Just a little late season update-
My B-N-B plots are hammered!!! Look like cattle yards. In the picture below, B-N-B is planted on the lefts and the strips on the right are an evolved harvest mix. Bought were planted on the same day, got the same treatments (spray, fertilizer, etc...).
Wow!... I think I seen tines sticking up out there!
" YOU GOTTA WANT IT!"
TTT... Just a throw out - Wallhanger food plots has B-N-B on sale and has free shipping. I bought all of my plot seed for next year.
sugar beets don't love water at all and you need them 1/2" deep. Mixes with sugar beets can be great or a failure. They also need a 6.0 pH or above. Some other options out there are rutabaga and the swedes.