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    Mathews Creed, loud as hell

    i just picked up a creed here on AT actually, and this bow is wicked loud, like the loudest bow I've ever shot. 29'' 70lb limbs, set at probably 64 or so. No handshock, and I can stack arrows right up with this thing, good arrow flight.. just LOUD at the shot, TWANG! what the heck? 29'' Easton Axis 400 with 100gr tip coming in somewhere around 416-418gr.. I'm gonna try shooting a 340 spine arrow tonight, see if that does anything.. All my accessories are tightened up, ive double checked every bolt on this bow.. threads going right down the middle of the timing hole.. Any ideas? Do I have to put those dumb limb dampeners in this thing just to make it quiet? If so, what a shame..

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    They have some pretty good information about this on the Mathews forum. It is something to do with the bearings in the cam. I have 2 buddies and they each have one, one of them is dead quiet and the other sounds like a shotgun going off.
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    Where do you have your string stop set at?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryno529 View Post
    Where do you have your string stop set at?
    just a crack of daylight between the string stop and the string.
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    Most of the problems with noise were the sting stop rubber not all the way on or too tight or too loose setting (mine is 1/16) or that a set screw had come loose or was missing. When ever i run into problems like this i go over the whole bow to make sure all the screws are tight and none are missing (everywhere) and if that doesnt work i start taking off my accessories to see if they are the problem and if that doesnt work off to the dealer i go.

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    I was at the bow shop a few weeks ago...a guy was shooting a brand new Creed. Very nice looking bow, it had full camo cams and everything. It was LOUD when he fired! Might have been the loudest bow I have ever heard. I asked him if everything was ok with it and watched him shoot a few times. It seemed like the noise was coming from the top cam area. I looked at the bow and there were some extreme string angles going from the top cam to the roller guard and it looked like some cam lean.

    Not sure if the noise is due to a bad tune and cam lean? How well is your bow tuned?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ryno529 View Post
    Most of the problems with noise were the sting stop rubber not all the way on or too tight or too loose setting (mine is 1/16) or that a set screw had come loose or was missing. When ever i run into problems like this i go over the whole bow to make sure all the screws are tight and none are missing (everywhere) and if that doesnt work i start taking off my accessories to see if they are the problem and if that doesnt work off to the dealer i go.
    ive checked every single bolt on this bow, and double checked. everything is in place, everything is tight. my string stop rubber is snug against the rod. I have had the bow torn down to nothing but the drop away rest, and it is even louder this way, it seems. NOT impressed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheScOuT View Post
    I was at the bow shop a few weeks ago...a guy was shooting a brand new Creed. Very nice looking bow, it had full camo cams and everything. It was LOUD when he fired! Might have been the loudest bow I have ever heard. I asked him if everything was ok with it and watched him shoot a few times. It seemed like the noise was coming from the top cam area. I looked at the bow and there were some extreme string angles going from the top cam to the roller guard and it looked like some cam lean.

    Not sure if the noise is due to a bad tune and cam lean? How well is your bow tuned?
    im not entirely sure. i am getting good arrow flight, threads are lined up right where they should be in the timing hole.. I don't seem to be getting any lean..
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    You might want to try and pull the string stop out to see if it has a fracture in the rod. I did hear of a few with this problem. Changed it...problem solved.

    Hope you get it fixed bud. The Creed is a really good shooting bow.
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    People have cracked the rod by over tightning the set screws but I would say take it to a dealer. My creed is super quiet i do have alphashox and an rs1 on the string stop but something must be wrong with it. How long ago did you get it? The previous owner must have known something was wrong.... As for the tune on a creed its a solocam so super easy. I think after 1000 shots or so i had to put 2 twist in the cable to get it back centerd in the hole and i don't have any cam lean.

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    Sure it's not your rest?

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    Take a hard look at the cam. Look at the inner lobe of the cam. We had a creed that was doing what you are experiencing. Turned out the inner lobe screw was broken. Sounded like a loud CLAP! On every shot.

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    Mine is whisper quiet. Something must be wrong with yours.
    There is talk of cam buzz with some bows which your dealer can fix by replacing the offending cam. Good luck

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    Bought a broken bow!
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    Are you using an Axcel sight. I had an issue with a couple of sights that were making noise, it was a bugger to find. ended up being the micro adjust knob for the individual pin adjustment. I have a creed and it is very quiet, the only noise I hear is the QAD rest.
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    Mine is QUITE and not "loud as hell" and i love it !!!!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bpot4 View Post
    They have some pretty good information about this on the Mathews forum. It is something to do with the bearings in the cam. I have 2 buddies and they each have one, one of them is dead quiet and the other sounds like a shotgun going off.
    I looked and couldn't find it. Do you have a link?

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    Quote Originally Posted by missourihunter1 View Post
    Bought a broken bow!
    +1

    Probably been dry fired and now the bearings are bad.
    And your 400 spine arrows are too light spine.
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    I have a 2010 Z7 and the bow is quiet. Changed the strings and started shooting it. It twanged loud at the shot. Noticed I did not put some of those monkey tails on. Put them on and the twang went away. Got home shot the bow some than realized the string was not touching the little finger things. That is where the twang came from. Did an adjustment so the string touched an the twang was gone with or with the monkey tails. So if everything is tight and the string stop set correct. Try a couple of the monkey tails on the string. Hope this helps and good luck.

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    If it were me, I would take that bow apart. Every nut, bolt and screw. I would carefully inspect every part thoroughly. I would then, re-assemble the bow with the proper lube and grease and re-tune the bow. I have shot that bow, and a friend of mine owns one and that bow is definitely a shooter and whisper quiet.
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    hope you get it figured out, and thanks for posting this potential problem with these bows. things like this and the limb flaking on the newer bowtechs make us all more aware of what we are buying. ive got a new t-3 tikka 270 that im wanting to trade for a bowtech bow. right now the best option is the experience. i thought about a insanity, but changed my mind because of these kinds of problems being fore told here. might wait till the 2014 models come out. youll get it figured out. hope it doesnt cost you very much.
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    Mine is quiet!!

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    Could it be your arrow weight and spine are not a good fit for your DL and DW? Is your arrow 29" or is your draw length 29"? I am no expert, but you are shooting an arrow that seems like it is very light, at least to me. Manufacturers recommend shooting an arrow that is over 5gr per pound, I think. You are at almost 6 which is safe but still light. I shoot 400 spine arrows with a 25.5" arrow on a 27.5" draw length at 67# and I feel like I need to go with a heavier arrow, and I will before hunting season. Like I said I am don't know much about all the dynamics of DL, DW, arrow spine, and weight, I just think that a 350 spine would be a lot better, probably give you more weight, and make your bow at least a little quieter. If that wouldn't make it any quieter, than maybe you did buy a broken bow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jake Regan View Post
    i just picked up a creed here on AT actually, and this bow is wicked loud, like the loudest bow I've ever shot. 29'' 70lb limbs, set at probably 64 or so. No handshock, and I can stack arrows right up with this thing, good arrow flight.. just LOUD at the shot, TWANG! what the heck? 29'' Easton Axis 400 with 100gr tip coming in somewhere around 416-418gr.. I'm gonna try shooting a 340 spine arrow tonight, see if that does anything.. All my accessories are tightened up, ive double checked every bolt on this bow.. threads going right down the middle of the timing hole.. Any ideas? Do I have to put those dumb limb dampeners in this thing just to make it quiet? If so, what a shame..
    Well this doesn't surprise me.....I mean it is a Mathews problem number 1, problem number 2 its probably been dryfired and didn't survive it. Good luck, I would turn around and sell it if it was me.

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    Sorry bul, I'm going to override you on this one. 70lb. limbs set at 64 lbs. 418 grain arrow should be quiet. Somewhere in my mind I'm thinking cam bearings, limbs or limb pockets. Check everything out. This could very well be a dry fired bow and it could be dangerous at this point.
    Holy son of a gun....I'm down to only one bow now. I'm ashamed of myself

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