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    Carbon Knight or Carbon Element

    I'm in market on purchasing a newer bow and shot the Carbon Elemend and loved it. Didn't want to spend full 1k+ on bare bow bc that's crazy to me. Found some nice deals on classified here but went to dealer and they introduced me to the new Bowtech Carbon Knight. I know it's not quite out yet but do I wait for Carbon Knight hoping it comes in camo bc don't like the black at $750-850.... Or make a deal on 2012 Element rkt for about $800? So many decisions please help out!

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    Are you afraid of lightning? There are lots of great aluminum bows.

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    Element.

    Proven performer and tough as nails vs. a big unknown at this point.
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    I'm a BT fan, but I'd go Hoyt out of those two but get the rkt cam on the element
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    Go hoyt

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    A bird in the hand is worth 2 in the bush.

    The Elements are awesome bows, but, there are some other top end Bowtechs that shoot just as well too.

    If you are going with a carbon bow and nothing else, stay with the Hoyt, but at least try some of the other bows, cause you will kick yourself in the butt later on if you don't.

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    Hard to say since the Knight is so new but 800 for a 2012 element sounds good

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    Elements are sweet shooters for sure, but if you want light weight, and speed, you may even want to check out a DNA. If all bow companies can do is make the equipment lighter, not a whole lot to gain elsewhere, besides, you'll more than likely put a stabilizer on it, and end up with about the same weight when you're done. Cheers--BB

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    Here we go , I didnt think I see this thread till week end.lol
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    Get me one to would ya, lol.......there is no comparison.........
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    Is this really a legit question...???
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    Wait on BT to come out with the new flagship bow.
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    Since the Bowtech has been out for about 2.5 minutes you can't get a honest opinion on it other than say just looks. If you want an honest comparison give it a few months to be thoroughly tested.

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    Even with the same riser technology, there really isn't much comparison between a Hoyt and a Bowtech IMO. And the Element is a proven ringer. Although there are other aluminum riser Hoyts that shoot just as well. But the Element has a certain feel to it - dead in the hand, and not hot in the summer or cold in the winter - and there is a noticeable weight difference. Is it twice the bow of a Spyder or CRX32? Of course not. But I just got one and it is the best Hoyt to date I have owned. And that is about 14 Hoyt bows.

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    Bowtech has notoriously had problems with limb coatings and cam fittings. I'd be a little nervous to trust an all carbon riser bow from them. We may have another high country situation on our hands. If you want a bow that's going to be tough...go for the Hoyt.
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    Im not replying might get SHANKED in my sleep

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    Quote Originally Posted by Longmire View Post
    Even with the same riser technology, there really isn't much comparison between a Hoyt and a Bowtech IMO. And the Element is a proven ringer. Although there are other aluminum riser Hoyts that shoot just as well. But the Element has a certain feel to it - dead in the hand, and not hot in the summer or cold in the winter - and there is a noticeable weight difference. Is it twice the bow of a Spyder or CRX32? Of course not. But I just got one and it is the best Hoyt to date I have owned. And that is about 14 Hoyt bows.
    Well, after 14 Hoyts, you might be a fan boy. I've shot Hoyts and Bowtechs and I own a Bowtech. Your right about one thing, there really isn't any comparison between them.
    The Element is a Flagship bow and the Knight is not. I would wait for BT to come out with their carbon flagship. Then you'll have something on a level playing field.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bbentley392t View Post
    Is this really a legit question...???
    no kidding
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    Quote Originally Posted by zmanastronomy View Post
    Well, after 14 Hoyts, you might be a fan boy. I've shot Hoyts and Bowtechs and I own a Bowtech. Your right about one thing, there really isn't any comparison between them.
    The Element is a Flagship bow and the Knight is not. I would wait for BT to come out with their carbon flagship. Then you'll have something on a level playing field.

    Possibly add to the mix Athens. Rumors abound about carbon in their near future as well!
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    First offering of a new material design and implementation that few people have even shot yet ( read: unknown risk), versus a proven tippity-top end bow? Is this a real question?
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    I owned a element and shot the knight today and it's a toss up .the knight is considerabilty lighter.I really don't know what the element has going for it .it's a carbon bow that weights as much as aluminum bows.don't get me wrong the element with rkt cams is a sweet bow but it has no advantages to warrant the cost.the knight did not give me any warm fuzzy feeling but man it's light.the DNA weights only 3.7 lb draws smoother than either and is alot faster and easier to tune.if the put the OD cam systems on the knight they will really have something.IMHO .but untill then the DNA is the king when come to being a light performance bow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 0nepin View Post
    I owned a element and shot the knight today and it's a toss up .the knight is considerabilty lighter...
    3.6 -vs- 3.2 = considerably...???

    Is that even noticeable?
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    I have a lightly used Carbon Element in the shop as a package for $1000...60RH28" in camo... has a Fuse 5pin sight, Carbon Blade stab, and QAD Hoyt Ultra Rest...

    As for the Knight, I should have one or two in by weeks end, and they'll be $799-$850 new. Faster, lighter, cheaper... what's not to like in it?


    Quote Originally Posted by Huelsmme View Post
    I'm in market on purchasing a newer bow and shot the Carbon Elemend and loved it. Didn't want to spend full 1k+ on bare bow bc that's crazy to me. Found some nice deals on classified here but went to dealer and they introduced me to the new Bowtech Carbon Knight. I know it's not quite out yet but do I wait for Carbon Knight hoping it comes in camo bc don't like the black at $750-850.... Or make a deal on 2012 Element rkt for about $800? So many decisions please help out!

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    For some reason BT went with regular bianary with no yokes instead of over drive system on the carbon knight terrible decision so for me Hoyt better cam system
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    Quote Originally Posted by bbentley392t View Post
    Is this really a legit question...???
    I'm with Bentley on this.
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