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Thread: Lost my Nuts & Bolts YokeTune link

  1. #1
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    Lost my Nuts & Bolts YokeTune link

    Simple as that.

    I need the link that has a recipe for yoke tuning for point of impact, etc.

    Might be years old. HD Crash. Thought I printed it up.



    My new (to me ), Vector wants to shoot left with the shaft inside center. And I keep cranking with minimal success.
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  2. #2
    Quote Originally Posted by TMan51 View Post
    Simple as that.

    I need the link that has a recipe for yoke tuning for point of impact, etc.

    Might be years old. HD Crash. Thought I printed it up.

    My new (to me ), Vector wants to shoot left with the shaft inside center. And I keep cranking with minimal success.
    I like to start with the yokes set for TOP CAM LEAN = ZERO,
    when the bow is at full draw,
    in a draw board.

    This is just a starting point,
    before we fire the FIRST arrow.









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  3. #3
    Once your bow is at full draw,
    in your draw board....

    then,
    you can hold an arrow TIGHT to the side of the top cam.

    We are looking for the EDGE of the arrow
    and the EDGE of the bowstring
    to be perfectly parallel.

    THIS is just a starting point
    BEFORE we fire the first arrow,
    during tuning.








    So,
    goto the press,
    and tweak your yoke legs
    until you get to this STARTING POINT
    for tuning.
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  4. #4
    I also like to use my TWO ARROW TRICK,
    so set the sideways position for the arrow rest.

    AGAIN,
    just a SOLID starting point,
    that requires NO tape measure.














    Duct tape
    Scotch Tape
    Bungee Cord.

    Use whatever you have
    to LOCK down the SECOND arrow TIGHT to your riser,
    for a DEAD STRAIGHT ahead reference.

    Then,
    MOVE your arrow rest SIDEWAYS
    until both arrows are parallel,
    just like RAILROAD tracks.
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  5. #5
    NEXT,
    we gotta set the arrow rest HEIGHT.

    No lasers.
    Just raise or lower the arrow rest
    until the CENTER of your arrow shaft
    is ROUGHLY at the same height
    as the CENTER of the arrow rest mounting bolt.

    THIS IS A STARTING POINT,
    before we fire the FIRST arrow
    during bow tuning.

    We will fine tune LATER.

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  6. #6
    NEXT,
    we gotta decide on WHERE you want to SNUG up the d-loop.

    I LIKE to set the d-loop with the drop away arrow rest arm
    in the FULL UP position,
    so that the d-loop has the NOCK at the SAME height
    as the rest of the arrow shaft.

    SOME folks
    like to set the nock a SKOSH HIGH,
    so that the TAIL END of the arrow is HIGHER
    and
    so that the POINT end of the arrow is LOWER.


    Now,
    you folks DO REALIZE
    that moving the d-loop UP OR DOWN...

    is just an IN-EXACT way of changing CAM SYNC,
    right?

    MOVE the d-loop HIGHER and HIGHER up the bowstring,
    and ALL you are really doing
    is increasing the gap on the TOP CAM draw stop.

    MOVE the d-loop LOWER and LOWER on the bowstring,
    and ALL you are really doing
    is DECREASING the gap on the TOP CAM draw stop,
    when ONE of the two cams FIRST touches the cable, at full draw.

    YOU get MUCH MUCH more control,
    working the control cable with HALF TWIST adjustments...

    than,
    trying to move the d-loop UP OR DOWN your bowstring.

    BOTH ways work for adjusting cam sync.

    The control cable,
    is MUCH more exact....

    for tweaking cam sync.
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  7. #7
    Sooo,
    now we have the TOP CAM lean set to ZERO,
    while at full draw in the draw board.

    Soooo,
    now we have the arrow rest SIDEWAYS position,
    set so that the TWO ARROW TRICK,
    has BOTH arrows pointed DEAD STRAIGHT AHEAD.

    Soooo,
    now we have the arrow rest VERTICAL position,
    set so that the arrow is ROUGHLY at the same height as the arrow rest mounting bolt.

    Sooo,
    now we have the d-loop SET, snugged up,
    and the arrow is DEAD horizontal,
    when the bow riser is vertical...

    or

    you have the d-loop set so that the NOCK is HIGHER
    and the POINT is LOWER.

    Whatever you prefer,
    is AOK...

    cuz,
    WHERE-EVER you set the d-loop,
    LEAVE IT THERE FOREVER....
    NEVER touch it again...

    and make all CAM SYNC changes
    with the control cable....

    with half twist adjustments.

    IF you work the control cable
    AND
    you move the d-loop up or down
    ,
    then,
    you end up CHASING YOUR OWN TAIL....
    when CREEP TUNING
    to find your sweet spot for CAM SYNC.

    I don't recommend using BOTH methods.

    PICK ONE.


    If you want to MOVE the d-loop UP and DOWN your bowstring,
    then...

    LEAVE the control cable alone FOREVER.

    If you twist or untwist the control cable during CREEP TUNING,
    to adjust cam sync...

    then,
    LEAVE the d-loop alone FOREVER.
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  8. #8
    Sooo,
    now we are ready to fire the FIRST ARROW
    during bow tuning.

    I suggest
    at this point,
    Start with my KITCHEN SINK tuning.

    WHY?

    So,
    we can check your draw length,
    and MICRO-TUNE your draw length
    to PLUS or MINUS 1/4-inch.
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  9. #9
    GOTTA find out if your draw length
    is dialed into the SWEET SPOT,
    within 1/4-inch...

    BEFORE we play with yoke cables.
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  10. #10





    Portable Target.

    Pin a string with a weight on the end.

    Duct tape only 5 FEET,
    just 60-INCHES away.

    Fire a fletched arrow.

    DO NOT TOUCH THE ARROW REST.

    Only move the sight pins windage,
    until you can split a SINGLE STRAND of B-50 dacron bowstring.

    Now,
    I know that you can HIT what you are looking at,
    just 5 FEET away.

    SIGHT PINS windage.

    OnLY move the sight pins,
    when shooting a FLETCHED arrow at 5 feet.
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  11. #11
    Now,
    we do it again...

    but this time,
    with a baresahft.








    Use a potato peeler
    and cut off the vanes.

    If the base of the vane remains behind,
    that's AOK.

    IF you are RIGHT handed,
    and your BARESHAFTS miss to the RIGHT...

    DO NOT TOUCH THE YOKE CABLES.

    ONLY work the DL, say 1/2-inch SHORTER.

    Do NOT bend your bow arm MORE than before.

    SLIDE your hips SIDEWAYS away from the target.
    SLIDE your LEFT ARMPIT sideways CLOSER to the target.

    Go from THIS shooting position...



    to THIS shooting position.




    YankeeRebel has to drop nearly 2-FULL INCHES shorter on his draw length,
    to get to the STANDING up straight position.

    When you STAND up STRAIGHT,
    and do NOT bend your bow arm more...

    this will clean up your release forearm alignment (MORE inline behind the arrow, when at full draw)
    and
    your BARESHAFT and FLETCHED will do THIS....



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  12. #12
    BOTTOM LINE,
    NO YOKE tuning at 5 FEET...

    during Kitchen Sink Tuning.
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  13. #13
    Now,
    go and shoot 20 yards,
    go and shoot 30 yards,
    go and shoot 40 yards....

    and see how your FLETCHED arrow groups
    impact the bullseye.

    Select the MAX distance that is comfy for you to shoot.

    Let's say 40 yard is AOK for you to shoot
    and you get consistent arrow groups.

    So,
    you shoot a group of FLETCHED arrows
    at 40 yards.

    BUT,
    the arrow group is say a SKOSH off to the RIGHT.

    So,
    move the arrow rest a TINY BIT LEFT
    until your 40 yard arrow groups are SOLIDLY centered around the 40 yard bullseye.
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  14. #14
    So,
    the LONG range arrow groups
    are CENTERED on the bullseye.

    So,
    at 5 FEET,
    a fletched arrow SPLITS the single strand of bowstring material.

    So,
    at 5 FEET,
    a BARESHAFT touches or SPLITS the single strand of bowstring material.
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  15. #15
    WHEN do we TWEAK the yoke cables?

    Not Yet.
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  16. #16
    So,
    now we CREEP TUNE
    and find the sweet spot for cam sync.

    http://www.archerytalk.com/vb/showth...ghlight=tuning

    See Post #15...for Creep Tuning Instructions.
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  17. #17
    AFTER you finish ALL of Kitchen Sink Tuning,
    as described here...

    AFTER you finish Creep Tuning...

    then,
    shoot some long range groups,
    say 40 yards,
    say 60 yards...

    and then,
    EXPERIMENT with a yoke cable leg adjustment,
    just a half twist

    and then,
    find the sweet spot
    which makes your groups as NARROW as possible.

    Use Yoke Tuning
    for FINE TUNING your LONG RANGE arrow groups.
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