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    I'm in the cabinet business as my screen name indicates. So a area where construction and home building thriving would be good.



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    Quote Originally Posted by JC-XT View Post
    Illinois: poor economy, high taxes, high cost of living, very little public hunting ground, very expensive land prices, very expensive hunting lease prices, very limited land access opportunities, entire state is controlled by the corrupt Chicago democrats, restrictive gun control, bad roads...now I've depressed myself.
    I work in Illinois and this describes Illinois very well. If Chicago would slide off in the lake Illinois would be a good state.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morrowcabinets View Post
    I'm in the cabinet business as my screen name indicates. So a area where construction and home building thriving would be good.
    Not sure about Waterloo, IA. But Rochester is booming. Twin Cities are growing. Hudson, WI is growing. La Crosse...... I am not sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morrowcabinets View Post
    I'm in the cabinet business as my screen name indicates. So a area where construction and home building thriving would be good.
    iowa city area, specifically North Liberty the home building business is booming. It is insane. We have the university of Iowa plus all the hospitals so a lot of people in the medical field plus professors. Lots of expensive home. West Des Moines has an crazy amount of home building as well.

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    Wife wants lots of snow, I want "lots of big bucks".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morrowcabinets View Post
    Wife wants lots of snow, I want "lots of big bucks".
    She does know what comes with "lots of snow", right? Around mid-late October when the first snow comes up here it is a pretty exciting time. About mid-late November we are ready for it leave. Around April we are happy to finally see it leave, maybe. This year we had 2" of lake ice on October 30th, were walking on it (ice fishing) by mid November.

    Here is the smoker on a nice warm day (March 31).
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    Come to Missouri and become a puppy mill owner and meth cooker. It's kinda our thing. Just kidding. Great public land in MO. Just live in southern Iowa and buy MO tags on the cheap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hoyttech13 View Post
    I have gone over this time and time again..........the best spot in my mind for deer, turkey, and waterfowl hunting oppurtunites would have to be some where on the outskirts of st Louis MO. MO alone has some awesome hunting/fishing. and you are within 6 hrs drive from most top whitetail destinations. 6 hr drive to Kansas, 4 hr drive to western ky, 6 hr drive to ohio. 4- 6 hr anywhere north to find mega bucks. and you are in the heart of the Mississippi flyway for ducks and the geese never fly south of st Louis anymore.....not to mention the trout rivers in south MO........that's my pick
    ....plus the Cardinals!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wade B View Post
    She does know what comes with "lots of snow", right? Around mid-late October when the first snow comes up here it is a pretty exciting time. About mid-late November we are ready for it leave. Around April we are happy to finally see it leave, maybe. This year we had 2" of lake ice on October 30th, were walking on it (ice fishing) by mid November.

    Here is the smoker on a nice warm day (March 31).
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    Walking on the lake in NOVEMBER!! Oh My!
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    Quote Originally Posted by benkharr View Post
    Walking on the lake in NOVEMBER!! Oh My!
    As a kid we used to be spearing by Thanksgiving. But it hasn't been that way in quite a while. But fishing, yeah. Very doable. Yeah, we are nuts up here.

    Here was my first venture out this year. Nov. 24th.
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    Oh, and with the snow comes this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wade B View Post
    She does know what comes with "lots of snow", right? Around mid-late October when the first snow comes up here it is a pretty exciting time. About mid-late November we are ready for it leave. Around April we are happy to finally see it leave, maybe. This year we had 2" of lake ice on October 30th, were walking on it (ice fishing) by mid November.

    Here is the smoker on a nice warm day (March 31).
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    Hope she does, but we don't like the hot weather. We might get 1-2 inches or snowfall per year. 100 degrees in Aug. 70 degrees in a tree stand in Nov.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morrowcabinets View Post
    Wife wants lots of snow, I want "lots of big bucks".
    My girl friend is from the south. She loved the first snow we had when she moved up.... For about a day. Then she realized everything doesn't shut down like it does in the south. Still have to go to work , and all your other daily activities. You have to drive on it. Your normal 15 minute commute to work can easily turn into an hour in bad years.
    I would recommend visiting someone during a big snow for a couple weeks if at all possible , before moving and being stuck. I know too many southerners that though they liked snow and cold until they experienced real northern snow and cold.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morrowcabinets View Post
    Hope she does, but we don't like the hot weather. We might get 1-2 inches or snowfall per year. 100 degrees in Aug. 70 degrees in a tree stand in Nov.
    Kentucky may be a happy median for you. Some snow and cooler temps.

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    Might be good advice. We had multiple -60 degree windchill days this year. I am not sure about hot, but there comes a point where cold is just cold regardless of how far the mercury falls. It used to be around -30 for me. It's getting to be around 0 as I get older. We used to skate on the outdoor rink in -20. Not anymore.
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    Born & raised in Ill. (don't go there). I now live in N.E. Ia. nearly 17 years + I've lived in Ws., Colorado., N.C. & California.
    I love Ws. & have done tons of deer Bowhunting there. Now, in your situation I would go to central Iowa in a town of 25,000 or less within 30-60 min from DesMoines. DesMoines is pretty large & IS one of the current fastest growing cities in the U.S.. So that means lots of houses being built & they all need cabinets. Your 4 hours or less from Loess Hills (lots of great Ia. whitetail-public land) & Neb. border & about the same from S.D., both have Antelope, Mule deer, whitetail & Turkey. Your 6-7 hours from Ok. & Tx (lots of off season HOG hunting). Your a decent drive from Colorado also. I have a daughter that lives 30 min. from DesMoines. Cost of living, rent ect. can be high IN DesMoines but less once you get outside that 30-45 min time you'll see a difference. Oh, DesMoines has a new huge Bass Pro + some Archery shops + clubs within a reasonable distance. You make the call. oh, Ks. is 2-3 hours away too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wade B View Post
    As a kid we used to be spearing by Thanksgiving. But it hasn't been that way in quite a while. But fishing, yeah. Very doable. Yeah, we are nuts up here.

    Here was my first venture out this year. Nov. 24th.
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    Oh, and with the snow comes this.
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    "That seems like torture to me"-My Wife

    Heat wave on Friday 18 degrees!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wade B View Post
    Might be good advice. We had multiple -60 degree windchill days this year. I am not sure about hot, but there comes a point where cold is just cold regardless of how far the mercury falls. It used to be around -30 for me. It's getting to be around 0 as I get older. We used to skate on the outdoor rink in -20. Not anymore.
    Cold gets to a point where it hurts. Literally. You guys up in Wisconsin and Minnesota seemed to be at that point for a couple months straight this year.

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    December 8th at the cabin.
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    January 2nd at the cabin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scottiwad4 View Post
    Cold gets to a point where it hurts. Literally. You guys up in Wisconsin and Minnesota seemed to be at that point for a couple months straight this year.
    Yeah, it was a brutal winter.

    We have what we call "The Winter Severity Index" that measures how hard the winter is on the wildlife.

    The Winter Severity Index (WSI) is a general measure of winter conditions based on the premise that prolonged cold temperatures and deep snow can reduce overwinter survival of white-tailed deer. In Minnesota the WSI is calculated by accumulating a point for each day with an ambient temperature <= 0 degrees F and an additional point for each day with a snow depth >= 15 inches. End-of-season values <100 indicate a mild winter; values >180 indicate a severe winter.
    http://files.dnr.state.mn.us/recreat..._cty_map14.pdf


    OH, I alos forgot to mention. One other thing the southerners may not know about or appreciate. In the dead of winter. It's dark for a really long time. Dec. 21st....... Sunrise is 7:57 AM, Sunset is 4:27 PM. That's 8.5 hours of daylight IF the sun comes out. Winter is a lot of overcast gloomy days.

    Don't get me wrong. We do love it up here. There are just things a person needs to appreciate about life up here.
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    The Des Moines area is booming as far as growth and housing. Iowa is consistently listed among the best states to raise a family based on education systems, safety, etc. There is some good hunting in central Iowa but it can be hard to find and highly competitive close to DSM because of the higher population. If you go more rural obviously the hunting is better but the further you get from the growing housing market. As previously mentioned, the Iowa city area would probably be the best medium between the two
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    I would go to North Dakota, great hunting and booming economy. They are having to build housing left and right.

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    Come to God's Country zone 3 in Iowa. Great hunting small town living but still within an hour drive of the big city for malls, bass pro, cabelas, casinos. I don't think I could live anywhere else.
    The loess hills over looking the Missouri river bottoms are a thing to behold!
    Went to school in eastern iowa and toured about all of our "east coast" great hunting much more populated, big time colleges near by and the high school sports are taken pretty seriously over there. My only gripe of eastern Iowans is iowa city and the looney tune democrats but if that fits your bill more power to ya its a lively community with hunting 20 minutes away, and coralville lake to get your fishing fix

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    Quote Originally Posted by Liv4Rut View Post
    I like Iowa but it is all I know. If my family was not in Eastern, Ia, I would probably move to Western, Ia and be 4-5 hours closer to the West where tags getting over the counter are the easiest compared to Iowa. A lot of good areas in Iowa though. I am in Iowa City area and I always hear it is one of the fastest growing areas in US. Seems like new houses being put up every day everywhere. Des moines to Ames is good too with some amazing hunting.
    When I was at Kirkwood in cedar rapids we often toured the country, a little gravel travel if you will, found an awesome spot that I could actually hunt now its houses we stopped in one night when they were still building all the houses low and behold in that new culdasac were the big bucks we had been scouting the timber for the previous fall. 3 of them dirtbags laying right amongst the equipment and new foundations. Friend of mine still lives in Swisher and reguraly sends me pictures of 150 caliber deer while hes farming

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    Quote Originally Posted by JC-XT View Post
    Illinois: poor economy, high taxes, high cost of living, very little public hunting ground, very expensive land prices, very expensive hunting lease prices, very limited land access opportunities, entire state is controlled by the corrupt Chicago democrats, restrictive gun control, bad roads...now I've depressed myself.
    Now I'm depressed, too. Mostly because this is true. I farm, so I'm kinda tied to illinois. If I could pack it up and move, my choices would be Iowa, northern missouri or Indiana. I'm not sure about the deer hunting prospects anywhere but my own farm, but those places seem more in line with the way of life I prefer to live. That said, I could probably be pretty happy in Wisconsin, too.
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