July 13th, 2014, 11:44 AM
An Illinois hunter says his big game slingbow is a capable deer hunting weapon, but t
Slingbows are modified slingshots that can shoot with force comparable to powerful compound bows.
The small weapons are gradually gaining popularity among big game hunters. One such hunter is Illinois resident John, “Chief A.J.”, Huffer, who makes and sells sling bows that can shoot 28-inch arrows.
Huffer wants to sell his sling bows to Illinois deer and turkey hunters, but the state DNR won’t let him.
According to the Herald Review, the DNR told Huffer that his device doesn’t generate enough velocity to be considered a humane big game hunting weapon. They said it’s only suitable for fish and smaller game animals.
The 76-year-old hunter and former tribal chief is suing the DNR for $5 million, claiming that he’s being forced to meet regulatory standards that other bow makers don’t have to worry about. Huffer claims he has the engineering reports to prove his weapon is a humane weapon for big game hunting.
He’s also claiming racial discrimination over his Cherokee and Menominee ancestry.
In this video, Huffer shows off his sling bow, and describes how he used to it kill an Alaskan bear and a moose in Utah.
If you have any doubts about Huffer’s ability to take down big game, consider his shooting accomplishments. According to herald-review.com, the former marine holds a world record for shooting more than 40,000 2-12 inch wood blocks tossed into the air, over eight, 14-hour days, without missing a shot.
His shooting skills have been featured on a National Geographic television program, and he’s even had a special-edition Daisy BB gun named after him.
Huffer is no stranger to legal battles, either. He’s a former tribal judge who has met with two U.S. Supreme Court Justices.
And, the man knows how to attract media attention. Huffer said he plans to wear a coat made from the fur of a huge grizzly bear he shot in Alaska using his sling bow to court.
Youtube vid of the guy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnN1Qvw1HAU
July 13th, 2014, 11:50 AM
July 13th, 2014, 12:13 PM
be perfect in a blind and nothing to carry.
July 13th, 2014, 12:19 PM
July 13th, 2014, 12:29 PM
There are to many politic's in our country now days he will never be able to sell it if they get there way
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July 13th, 2014, 12:35 PM
Over 40,000 shots without missing one over 8 14 hour days???? That's incredible but who has time for that? After the first 1,000 I would have been like "This guy is probably not going to miss" and been done with it.
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July 13th, 2014, 12:58 PM
ya, and i dnt want to wear my seatbelt but the state says tuff crap.is a sling shot worth the 20 million are broke state is going to spend fight this.pack the piece pipe and let it go.
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July 13th, 2014, 01:08 PM
"He’s also claiming racial discrimination over his Cherokee and Menominee ancestry."
Was about to click on the link and check this guy out until I read this. The race card burns me like no other.
July 13th, 2014, 01:13 PM
Curious what kind of velocity they are getting. I can't find anything listed, which makes me suspect it's kind of low...
July 13th, 2014, 01:45 PM
Dave Canterbury has built these for years by zip tieing a whisker biscuit in it and modifying the nock with i think golf tees to use in a surivival situation on small game. but deer thats stretching it.
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July 13th, 2014, 04:07 PM
being highly inefficient and grossly abusive of power I bet the state government doesn't care what the cost is. No one is going to tell it what it can and cannot do.
Originally Posted by 2arrow1
Killed a bear and a moose, I'd say it gets'r done on a whitetail.
Whatever, I like the way this guy thinks outside the box, it's still a bow, 2 limbs and a string in what looks like the same stance.
July 13th, 2014, 04:48 PM
Did some quick research... looks like the very best slingshots shooting arrows might, (note: might-it seems like a stretch, pardon my pun) crest 30 ft-lbs of energy. So yes, these things are quite slow and inefficient. I can understand the game wardens position on this one.
July 13th, 2014, 05:05 PM
Originally Posted by Dblstufttaco
July 14th, 2014, 02:55 AM
When I first saw this I instantly thought of the movie "Maverick"
July 18th, 2014, 08:04 AM
No support for him or his products -
July 18th, 2014, 09:09 AM
Here is a guy trying to make a living using his own two hands in an area related to what we all love and we have to bash him. This makes no sense to me. Here in NC our minimum is 45lbs for a recurve, if this thing can generate the same KE what is the problem?
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July 18th, 2014, 09:14 AM
they are selling similar ones at Dicks, I can see Illinois having 3 more seasons, first sling shot season, second sling shot season, then late antlerless sling shot season
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July 18th, 2014, 09:23 AM
It is a weapon of choice for poachers. Shoot it out the window and hide the sling shot under the seat.
We had this happen a few years back. It took a couple visuals by the game warden to catch the guy. Second time when he threw it under the seat it didn't quite get out of view.
BTW: Indians never had rubber bands to shoot anything. Another Race card junkie.
July 18th, 2014, 05:05 PM
Guy uses what he knows works, race cards are not off limits. I suppose you don't take advantage of all the tax deductions because it takes advantage of opportunities provided.
Originally Posted by thirdhandman
July 18th, 2014, 05:24 PM
They don't belong in the woods in my opinion, much like crossbows during archery season. But I'm also called a closed minded elitist at times....
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Originally Posted by ncsurveyor
July 18th, 2014, 05:55 PM
Eh. They seem like they could be OK for things up to turkey sized. But they seem like a poor choice when precision and power are needed. Bottom line is all kinds of crazy contraptions can be used to kill things. What should and should not be allowed needs some regulation to protect the rights inherent to the animals and the public who share the wildlife. How open or closed should that regulation be? Now that is a hard question.
July 18th, 2014, 06:12 PM
There's quite a difference between telling him he can't sell them and not allowing them as legal weapons. If they're telling him he can't sell them like the article says then he's got a winning argument.
July 18th, 2014, 06:23 PM
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July 18th, 2014, 07:06 PM
The guy is just trying to make it legal so he can sell more of them. The people that have heard of him in Illinois have no respect for him. The state won't listen to him because he thinks his race has everything to do with them not approving a weapon that should not be used for deer.
July 18th, 2014, 07:40 PM
Some people have enough trouble trying to kill deer with bows. I don't want to even imagine people using sling shots. Lol