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    Lightbulb GUIDO's WEB Tips and techniques thread ("THE GO-TO THREAD")

    Hey everyone; I'm the guy who started the "Climbing to 17+ ft. w/2 Muddy Sticks!!!" climbing technique thread last fall....

    Anyways, now I have a Guido's Web too. (So I'm going to have to spend some time learning how to travel and hunt with this new tool for the upcoming season.)
    I'm liking the possibility of "enhanced comfort" (back and legs) along with low/no movement while waiting for prey.

    But I also have several questions and a lot to figure out (with little time to do it), so now I need some HELP PLEASE!!!!
    I thought it might be appropriate to start a GUIDO's WEB TIPS AND TECHNIQUES THREAD where we can all learn and share what works..... (and what doesn't)
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    For starters.....

    1.) Seems to me that since the Guido's Web takes the place of a pack, stowing gear is going to be an issue. What are you guys using for packing in gear? Shoulder duffle bag? GamePlan Gear "Sport and Stalk" worn sideways?
    2.) I'd love to see some photos of the bridge setup for use with a Guido's web. (I have several rope hookups made by JSouthern.)
    3.) And about that tree fork..... Seems way too big for archery, and I'm thinking about removing it completely. (Or at least using a much smaller & shorter one just to rest against tree, and possibly shaping the front of it like a "popsicle stick."
    (The long fork looks like a problem on many different levels and I don't anticipate using it for anything more than a resting point. ~ It certainly won't be a brace while taking shots.)

    Also, I know that Guido's is coming out with their own version of a bridge, but that's only going to provide ~10% (or so) pivoting capabilities. (I'm thinking I need at lest 3x that to shoot like I do out of the tree saddle.)



    FWIW: I have (as of yet) to even put this thing on my back, let alone try it in a tree. (And I won't have much, if any time at all to mess with it prior to Labor-Day due to work obligations.)

    Also: The web I have was very slightly used. I have the benefits of all the quieting accessories, along with the lightweight stuff (straps) already on the pack.
    (Not sure exactly what that means yet, but the seller was pretty knowledgeable while sharing what he has already done with this web. Apparently he saved me a bunch of work with regards to enhancements & upgrades.)

    My buddy bought a brand new one (from the factory) several months ago. So once Labor-Day gets here we'll be able to compare the two and note the enhancements/upgrades.
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    I would suggest looking at a vest for gear vs a pack. Fly fishing vest work great.

    I ground out the rivets on the fork & replaced the center one with bolt & nut. That way the fork could be folded back for climbing.

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    Subscribing. I want to hunt from my GW more this year.

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    I think I may sell one of my saddles and try a web this season.
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    If it works as well as I hope it does, I'll transition much of my hunting from saddle to web but not all. (I typically devote about 500 hours a season to bow hunting, so I'll hopefully have some good "experience" to share by the end of this season.... Along with "three deer down" (by bow) hopefully.....

    One of my biggest concerns is:

    Being able to pivot (the bridge thing) for taking shots from angles similar to my saddles. (Saddle hunting IMO gives you the ultimate shot angle/lean for about 270 degrees around the tree.) I'm not willing to give that aspect up.

    Also, anyone think this pack might work (worn with/under the web?): http://www.gameplangear.com/productc...&idcategory=11 ~You can wear this pack "sideways", so the only thing on your back (when worn under the web) is the strap.

    Quote Originally Posted by NHunter View Post
    I think I may sell one of my saddles and try a web this season.
    I may sell one of my 3 saddles too. (2 leather RoadTrips & a mesh Ambush) My used (but in great shape) leather RoadTrips one (no fraying on pivot strap) is now a bit big for me. It's a large (not XL) which is very comfortable as far as saddles go anyways. (Perfect for a 225 lb. guy. ~ I've lost some weight from running etc., so it's now almost too big for me.)
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    I hunted exclusively out of a gw last season. For the strap on the tree im using a 5ft nylon runner with an aluminum caribiner. For the bridge I use a 21 inch nylon runner. I thought about cutting the leg straps off as I never wear them however found they sort of act as a kidney belt if attached around your waist for the walk in. For a pack the I found I like a small sling style pack. About rounding off the whale tail I wouldn't because it will be hard to hold in one spot even at rest. For the climb I stopped wearing the web at the end of the season and setup in two climbs because of needing warm clothes. I would pack everything into the sling pack and put that in the web with my bibs and layers walk to the tree just in pants and base layer top. When I got to the tree I would put on a linesmans belt and throw the pack over one shoulder and my sticks on the other. I would climb the tree setting my sticks when I got to the top I would put my strap on the tree and then climb down. While on the ground I would put on my bibs and and layers then put on the web climb up my sticks and hook in. This year im kicking around the idea of the cranford rope steps instead of lonewolf sticks. Although there are some fantastic things about web hunting im also kicking around the idea of going to a hang on stand. One of the biggest things is not being able to apply and remove layers the other big drawback is the two trip deal and I also hate pissing in a bottle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BrokenLimbs View Post
    If it works as well as I hope it does, I'll transition much of my hunting from saddle to web but not all. (I typically devote about 500 hours a season to bow hunting, so I'll hopefully have some good "experience" to share by the end of this season.... Along with "three deer down" (by bow) hopefully.....

    One of my biggest concerns is:

    Being able to pivot (the bridge thing) for taking shots from angles similar to my saddles. (Saddle hunting IMO gives you the ultimate shot angle/lean for about 270 degrees around the tree.) I'm not willing to give that aspect up.

    Also, anyone think this pack might work (worn with/under the web?): http://www.gameplangear.com/productc...&idcategory=11 ~You can wear this pack "sideways", so the only thing on your back (when worn under the web) is the strap.



    I may sell one of my 3 saddles too. (2 leather RoadTrips & a mesh Ambush) My used (but in great shape) leather RoadTrips one (no fraying on pivot strap) is now a bit big for me. It's a large (not XL) which is very comfortable as far as saddles go anyways. (Perfect for a 225 lb. guy. ~ I've lost some weight from running etc., so it's now almost too big for me.)
    So do you not get as much freedom in moving around as you do the saddle?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NHunter View Post
    So do you not get as much freedom in moving around as you do the saddle?
    I don't know yet but from what I've learned thus far..... I doubt it. (Come September 2'nd, I'll have almost 2 weeks to figure it all out though.) I spoke with the manufacturer several months back and they were talking about a bridge (in the works) for pivoting (like you do in a saddle.) I was told the one in production only gives you roughly 10 degrees of pivoting for safety reasons. (Unlike some of the bridges that are being custom made for the web which pivot more.) The reason given for only ~10 degree pivoting was safety. All I do know is that I've had instances in the saddle where I've pivoted to extreme angles to "lean into" and get shots at deer. IMO, pivoting to extreme angles with the saddle is not really a safety issue. It's more of an "acrobatics" issue. ~ If you can get into position (quietly), the saddle safely cradles you with little risk of "falling out" regardless of how far you've pivoted "off center."

    I also asked as to why the tree fork was so large. The response was for stability in the tree while making shots. I have no plans of using the web like that. I intend to "lean into shots" while standing on the pegs. (just like I do with the saddle) The primary reason I am interested in the web is for comfort during long hunts. For that, all I need is a small "fork-less rest", I think.... IMO, the sole benefit of a web is comfort. And of course if I can "rest" comfortably with some back support (unlike the saddle), there will be much less movement while waiting.

    I have yet to try the web, but having as much experience with the saddle (as I do), I strongly suspect that hunting out of a web is going to have it's downsides/trade-offs too.....
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    My limbs are just fine.... Unlike the '02 TomKat that "detonated" (limbs failed twice) many years ago!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bbrilmyer View Post
    @ bbrilmyer: Do you sling the Maxpedtiion pack pack under or over the web's pack straps?
    (I would think that wearing it under, if possible makes the most sense from a tree climbing perspective anyways.)

    Also, is that pack large enough for you? I wonder whether the next size up would be better: http://www.maxpedition.com/store/pc/...CK-40p1344.htm
    (On second thought, maybe wearing it over the web would be fine too. Just worried about that fork prong sticking up.)

    Maxpedition makes some pretty rugged stuff. I've looked at their sling packs in the past.
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    Bumping this. My web and Muddy sticks will be here this week. Can't wait to use this system!
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