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Thread: Tuning Slick Trick Mag's with Evolution (frustrated!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by JRHOADES20 View Post
    I've always read you chase fp's, from slick trick, read center shot section.

    http://www.slicktrick.net/node/36
    Exactly. Chase fp's, not broadheads. Do if you are hitting right of your field points, you will move the rest to the left.

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    Try shooting feathers with a helical. Just a suggestion!

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    http://www.archerytalk.com/vb/showthread.php?t=1606741
    Used this post with pics to get my drt's hitting with my field points
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    Here's the final pic from that post...move rest right if broadheads are hitting left
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    That's a great visual, and pretty much mirrors what I was doing. I'm taking it to the shop tomorrow and have everything checked...then I'll bring it home and try again. Gonna try couple different arrows...some stiffer and weaker spines to make sure that's not the issue
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    Read what I told you earlier, I've been tuning bows a long time and what I told you is the correct information you need. The information others are giving you about moving the rest right if broadheads are hitting left of field points is wrong.

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    I agree with daniel2370, but I would also try a 125g head, sometimes changing the FOC of the arrow can bring big changes.
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  8. #33
    Daniel,

    Just brought back from the shop, and they said to do exactly as you said. So I came home and shot a few after moving it left...way left of where i had it, and although it's much closer now, I still need to do some more tweaking.

    Just for grins, I tried it even further left just to see if I could get the BHs to hit right of FP's, but they seemed to go further left instead...must be a sweet spot I haven't found yet.
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    Btw, thanks Daniel....wasn't that I didn't trust what you were saying...just that everything I was told up til now was move the rest towards the FP's, ie to the right in this case
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    Ok, so I was going off nuts and bolts archery guide...Apparantly, he shoots LEFT handed, which explains his moving the rest to the right for BHs hitting left. THAT was a minor detail I wish I had caught earlier on. Boy do I feel stupid!
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    Well I said move it right also...someone please tell me why rh/lh would make a difference?
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    From the slick truck website I posted earlier.


    CENTER SHOT
    Simply put, move your rest in the direction the fieldpoints are from the broadheads. With arrows coming out of the bow at an angle wind will push broadheads more than it pushes fieldpoints. As you move the rest in the direction of straighter arrow flight both fieldpoint and broadhead impact will move, but the broadheads will be closer to the fieldpoints. For example, suppose your broadheads hit low and to the right of the fieldpoint. First, fix the elevation by moving the rest in the direction the broadhead needs to go toward the fieldpoints, in this case raise the rest slightly until both fieldpoints and broadheads are the same height. Next, fix he horizontal by moving the rest in the direction the broadhead needs to go toward the fieldpoint, in this case move the rest slightly left until both fieldpionts and broadheads merge to the same spot. When your rest is CENTER SHOT both fieldpoints and broadheads will impact the same spot. Now, as the last step, simply move your sight to the spot the fieldpoints and broadheads hit.

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    The Slick Trick website is giving bad info.

    Silenceisgolden, when your moving your rest move it in very small increments. I mean like 1/32" at a time it doesn't take much to correct it.

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    I don't see how RH vs LH would matter, a rest is a rest and arrow an arrow ? You treat a Broadhead like a bs. Everything I read says move rest towards fletched arrow.

    Here is from wasp
    http://www.wasparchery.com/blog/tuni...for-broadheads
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    Man, information is all over the place in this thread. Tune broadhead flight like you would bareshaft flight. Right handed shooter...if a bareshaft flies right, it has a tail left situation. You'd move the rest to the right. Same for broadhead. Arrow is coming out of the bow tail left, this steers the broadhead to the right.

    OP, your situation is backwards of what I just described, but same principle. That broadhead tuning day thread that has been a sticky on this site for so long is wrong IMO. Most other notable tuners I talk to all agree. A bareshaft and a broadhead almost always follow the same path. Tune for the arrow coming straight out of the bow, just like you would paper tuning.

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    First of all, I appreciate all the advice here...it definitely helped a lot once I figured out which way to move the rest...

    Looks like I've finally got it pretty close now. I tried paper tuning and kept getting right tears, which I never could get rid of...went to modified french tuning and now I think I'm very close. BH's are grouping with FP's now, but they are a LOT less forgiving if my form is even the slightest bit off. Thinking of switching to mechanicals just because of the dynamics of hunting from a tree stand and how that might impact my form. But we'll see...gonna leave everything set like it is and do some more shooting.

    Thanks again everyone!
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    FP and slick trick...30 yds. I'm happy with that
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    Broadhead impacts left of field point - usually means right tear through paper - fix by moving rest to left

    Broadhead impacts right of field point - usually means left tear through paper - fix by moving rest right

    Broadhead impacts low of field point - usually means high tear through paper - fix by moving rest up or nock point down

    Broadhead impacts low of field point - usually means low tear through paper - fix by moving rest down or nock point up

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    Shim your cams slightly to the right or closer to the cable guard side. I did that to both my obsessions and they then shot right down the middle with a neutral grip. I had to have my rest waaay outside to get them both to tune before I shimmed the cams.
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    Quote Originally Posted by daniel2370 View Post
    You were moving your rest the wrong way, if broadheads are hitting left of field points you need to move your rest to the left to bring field points and broad heads together. I would bet that if you shoot a bare shaft through paper you would have a tail right tear. So you would need to move your rest to the left to correct the tear.
    Sight movements chases the arrow (ex. Hitting left sight moves left). Rest adjustments negate the arrow. (Ex. Arrow hitting left, move rest right)

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    If your broadheads are grouping good, adjust your sight and go hunting.
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