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    What's the best brand of bow & arrow?

    Er... if there are such things as "brands", I mean. I don't know the first thing about archery, so bear with me.

    My grandmother was an archer for about thirty years. She started in her early twenties and quit sometime in her fifties. She was a damn good archer and competed in a lot of tournaments. She's kinda getting up there (today was her 83rd birthday), so it would be cool to let her get back into one of her main old hobbies.

    But, like I said, all I know about archery is that you pull the string back and shoot the arrow. Can you all tell me what would be a good kind of bow and arrow to buy, as in... it's durable, works well, and uh... whatever other criteria archers use to determine a bow's worth which I wouldn't know of because I'm not an archer?



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    HA AHA HA HA! oh my god! you just opened the biggest can of worms in the whole world! so just go with Hoyt and never look back.

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    The best bow is the one you like the best. As for me, im a BowTech guy, as stated above, you could debate on that for days on end. The best arrows in my eyes are CX's. Put a half dozen of any other carbons on a arrow checker and watch them wobble compared to a CX. It'll open your eyes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Casey
    Er... if there are such things as "brands", I mean. I don't know the first thing about archery, so bear with me.

    My grandmother was an archer for about thirty years. She started in her early twenties and quit sometime in her fifties. She was a damn good archer and competed in a lot of tournaments. She's kinda getting up there (today was her 83rd birthday), so it would be cool to let her get back into one of her main old hobbies.

    But, like I said, all I know about archery is that you pull the string back and shoot the arrow. Can you all tell me what would be a good kind of bow and arrow to buy, as in... it's durable, works well, and uh... whatever other criteria archers use to determine a bow's worth which I wouldn't know of because I'm not an archer?
    Hello Dr. Casey:

    If I understand you correctly,
    you wish to purchase a bow and a set of arrows for your grandmother.

    A compound bow must be selected to fit your grandmother
    in terms of draw length and draw weight.

    If you can find out what her wingspan is
    (standing against a wall, arms also against the wall, arms horizontal)
    (distance from the middle finger tip to the other middle finger tip).

    Once you have her wingspan measurement,
    then take that number and divide by 2.5

    That will give you the AMO Draw Length,
    similar to a shoe size.

    I would recommend a compound bow with adjustable draw length.
    That way, the bow can be adjusted to fit your grandmother,
    because forumulas only get you within range.
    www.nutsandboltsarchery.com
    http://www.archerytalk.com/vb/showth...=who+wants+dvd
    Send me an email for DVD = $25.00....

    alanlui@comcast.net

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    HA AHA HA HA! oh my god! you just opened the biggest can of worms in the whole world!
    Oy, I had a feeling I had. >_<

    I would recommend a compound bow with adjustable draw length.
    That way, the bow can be adjusted to fit your grandmother,
    because forumulas only get you within range.
    So basically, as long as I get an adjustable compound bow (Why's it called a compound bow? Why not just a normal bow?) from a high-tier company like the ones hedoe and Musky mentioned, I'm good to go?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Casey
    Oy, I had a feeling I had. >_<



    So basically, as long as I get an adjustable compound bow (Why's it called a compound bow? Why not just a normal bow?) from a high-tier company like the ones hedoe and Musky mentioned, I'm good to go?
    The bow your grandmother used before,
    was probably a recurve bow. A recurve bow looks like this.



    This is a recurve bow in the style that is used in the Olympics.
    The limbs are removable, and available in a variety of pulling weights.

    The longer your arms, then the shooter will pull back on the limbs more
    and the weight on the fingers will be higher.

    The limbs can be ordered at a 20 lb pulling weight. Depending on how tall your grandmother is, she should be able to pull a bow with 20 lb limbs.

    If you have an idea how tall your grandmother is,
    I could make a recommendation for a size of Olympic style bow.

    Essentially, they come in three sizes (short or medium or long limbs).



    A compound bow is a modern day bow with pulleys.
    The pulleys multiply the pulling force that you apply.



    The silver wheels are on the top and bottom of the bow.
    These wheels are the pulleys and the shape of the pulleys are irregular or somewhat ovoid in shape.

    Again,
    if your goal is to surprise your grandmother with something
    that resembles what she used to use previously,
    I would suggest the Olympic style bow.
    www.nutsandboltsarchery.com
    http://www.archerytalk.com/vb/showth...=who+wants+dvd
    Send me an email for DVD = $25.00....

    alanlui@comcast.net

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    We could probably help you out alot more if we had a price range that you were looking to stay in. There's alot more to buying a bow than just picking one up at the local Academy...you'll want an arrow rest, a sight, arrows, tips, and a release at least for starters.

    As for brands, the very top of the food chaing is going to be Mathews, Bowtech, and Hoyt.

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    That looks more like a crazy war machine than a bow... >_>

    She's about 5' 6".

    We could probably help you out alot more if we had a price range that you were looking to stay in.
    A thousand dollars or less.

    you'll want an arrow rest, a sight, arrows, tips, and a release at least for starters.
    ... yeah, I don't even know what half those things are. I thought you just needed the bow and the arrows for starters.

    I like the sound of Bowtech the best. It just sounds like the best company based on nothing but the name and my own intuition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Casey
    That looks more like a crazy war machine than a bow... >_>

    She's about 5' 6".



    A thousand dollars or less.



    ... yeah, I don't even know what half those things are. I thought you just needed the bow and the arrows for starters.

    I like the sound of Bowtech the best. It just sounds like the best company based on nothing but the name and my own intuition.
    Bowtech only makes compound bows.

    If you are truly interested in a compound bow (lots of pulleys),
    then I suggest you visit www.huntersfriend.com

    They have a tremendous comparison chart
    and lots of articles that explain the basics of modern day
    archery, and they have pictures of what a complete compound bow package looks like.
    www.nutsandboltsarchery.com
    http://www.archerytalk.com/vb/showth...=who+wants+dvd
    Send me an email for DVD = $25.00....

    alanlui@comcast.net

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    Damn it, Bowtech! You've let me down!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Casey
    Damn it, Bowtech! You've let me down!
    If you would rather a Olympic style bow,
    then you can take a look at http://www.hoyt.com/products/helix.tpl

    This Olympic style bow has removable upper and lower limbs.

    You can order limbs in the appropriate pulling weight
    that will suit your grandmother.
    www.nutsandboltsarchery.com
    http://www.archerytalk.com/vb/showth...=who+wants+dvd
    Send me an email for DVD = $25.00....

    alanlui@comcast.net

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    That looks rather nice. =) Thank you.

    If the bow is 2.75 pounds, though, it should be a good weight for anyone, shouldn't it?

    I just hope she doesn't accidentally hack her hand off from lack of practice. x_x You can get rusty after thirty years of stagnation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Casey
    That looks rather nice. =) Thank you.

    If the bow is 2.75 pounds, though, it should be a good weight for anyone, shouldn't it?

    I just hope she doesn't accidentally hack her hand off from lack of practice. x_x You can get rusty after thirty years of stagnation.
    Yes, the metal handle in the middle weighs 2.75 pounds.

    You would need to order the following:

    1) The Helix is only the blue handle in the middle.
    2) 20 pound pulling weight limbs (come as a set of upper and lower)
    3) bow string
    4) finger tab (piece of leather that protects the fingers)
    5) arrow rest (suggest Hoyt Super Rest)
    6) plunger button (suggest Shibuya)
    7) dozen arrows

    You can order everything at Lancaster Archery

    Their technical staff can help you with the complete order,
    and even assemble the arrows for you, and help you select the proper arrow stiffness. All you need to tell them is that your grandmother is a former archer, and that she is 5'6" and she's 83 years old.

    I would mention that you are looking for 20 lb limbs.

    Lancaster Archery Supply
    2195-A Old Philadelphia Pike
    Lancaster, PA 17602

    Orders Only 1.800.829.7408

    I buy all of my archery materials,
    bows, arrows, etc from Lancaster Archery.

    They are a specialist for the Olympic Style bows
    and are very very knowledgeable.
    www.nutsandboltsarchery.com
    http://www.archerytalk.com/vb/showth...=who+wants+dvd
    Send me an email for DVD = $25.00....

    alanlui@comcast.net

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    Hmm... I think that covers everything, then. =D

    What's a plunger button?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Casey
    Hmm... I think that covers everything, then. =D

    What's a plunger button?
    A plunger button is essentially a barrel or externally threaded tube.
    The center of the tube has a plastic stick that is spring loaded.

    The arrow sits on the arrow rest.
    The threaded barrel is installed perpendicular to the arrow
    and the plastic spring loaded stick touches the arrow shaft.

    Just like a car needs a front end alignment to enable the car
    to go in a straight line,
    then a bow also uses this threaded barrel and plastic stick
    to help point the arrow.



    By rotating the threaded barrel in one direction,
    it will shift the arrow a little further to the left.

    By rotating the threaded barrel in the other direction,
    it will shift the arrow a little further to the right.




    This is right handed bow.
    That means you pull the string with the right hand.

    The arrow is on the left side of the riser (metal handle in the middle).

    You can see the back end of the plunger button in the picture (blue head).
    www.nutsandboltsarchery.com
    http://www.archerytalk.com/vb/showth...=who+wants+dvd
    Send me an email for DVD = $25.00....

    alanlui@comcast.net

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    Genisis Bow

    At 83 she will want a light bow that is easy to pull. I don't see her trudging up and down hills shooting field or 3-D. Probably some indoor shooting and mabey even in the back yard. There is no reason to spend a mint on a bow that is to heavy in both mass weight and draw weight. A Genesis Bow by Mathews would be perfect for her. Looks like a compound but does not have a heavy draw cycle. Once drawn 17" the poundage stays the same to 30". This negates the need to have a drawlength specific bow. So no wing span measuring required. The bow maxs out at about 20#'s and is sufficient for indoor and back yard shooting. Your local bow shop should be able to outfit her without breaking the bank and she can pick out her favorite color. At her age she just needs to have fun.

    SLash

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    You might be surprised to find that your Granny can answer this question herself!
    You might want to consider an inexpensive AIM or Innernature (same) recurve at 15lbs. 83 year old shoulders and arms will tire quickly. These bows usually weigh in at 1.5 to 2.5 lbs. If a compound is the way you want to go I'd suggest looking at some kids bows from places like Cabellas, Hunters Friend, Keystone Country Store, etc. 20 lbs and under draw weight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ridgerunner
    You might be surprised to find that your Granny can answer this question herself!
    This is supposed to be a complete surprise. XD

    Anyway... yeah, I agree that she should just be out for fun and not treat it as a serious sport, so I was thinking of going for these things...

    Bow and arrows

    12 Carbon Arrows (I don't think the two arrows included in the first link is enough)

    Targets

    Protective glove thing (It was put into the same category as finger tabs, so...)

    Am I missing anything that's completely basic and vital? I mean, I don't think an arrow rest is really necessary, for instance, since she can just set them on the counter or something... >_>

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