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Thread: Serving Nockset Tieing and D-Loops

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    The most informative thread I have ever read on AT! Thanks to everyone that contributed and posted pics!



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    BUMP... this thread has helped me so much!

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    Nock Pinch?

    I understand nock pinch if you don't use a d-loop and just attach a release straight to the string. You only have one point of contact with the string. However, the D-loop gives you two points of contact. If the D-loop is set up surrounding the nock point, wouldn't that give a straight string between the ends of the D-loop as in Fig. 1? I can't understand what force would be causing the string to look like Fig. 2 and pinching the nock.
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    help me

    my arrow is tail spinning. is this because my d loop is to high or two low. my arrow spines and every thing else is correct.

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    Come back

    New to Archery Talk and just coming back to the sport after a 20 year vacation and wow things have changed. This thread is great is there a way to save it to come back to?

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    Good photos

    I will give this a try tomorrow.

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    I needed to subscribe. Get thread. Thanks Deezlin

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    Quote Originally Posted by T_well View Post
    I understand nock pinch if you don't use a d-loop and just attach a release straight to the string. You only have one point of contact with the string. However, the D-loop gives you two points of contact. If the D-loop is set up surrounding the nock point, wouldn't that give a straight string between the ends of the D-loop as in Fig. 1? I can't understand what force would be causing the string to look like Fig. 2 and pinching the nock.
    What you're saying makes sense. Unless the d loop slips & makes the nock slip it shouldn't be necessary. The space is probably there for a little fudge factor as the knots tighten into place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XP35 View Post
    It depends on how long a length you want when it's finished. But I like mine around 5/8" from the bowstring with the two releases I use. One bow is shorter than the other and I use a tied in nock point below the arrow and don't use any nock point with the longer bow. (A longer bow is less prone to pinch so the nock point isn't really necessary.) For the shorter one with the nock point I start it at 4 1/8" counting the melted balls and with the longer one I start with a 4" section.

    You will have to experiment with your own, though, to truly know what size they need to be for various reasons. Such as width of nocks, length from string, tied nock points or not and even the size of the nock point(s). So experimentation IS necessary to find the perfect size.
    This is the 1st time that I have heard to do this on a short ata bow, but that it is not needed on a long ata bow.
    Any other input on this?
    Or is it best to always use nock sets inside of a dloop?

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    Just a note that if you pay attention and tie the dloop knots so that your hand rotation at anchor is pulling them tighter (away from the loops, not into the loops), your d-loop may stay put better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tanto View Post
    This. Thread. ROCKS.

    I agree, great thread.

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    Great info!

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    this is a GREAT thread!!! THANKS!!
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    gonna have to try this using my outer limits loop tool. time for a new loop on my backup bow anyway...too much nock pinch.
    Can you point me toward the target, please?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tanto View Post
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    I agree!

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    wouldnt the crimp on nocks do the same thing or would the added wieght kill to much speed. i'm picking up a bow tomorrow and want to try this when i set it up. thanks for the help.

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    I wouldn't mind being able to tie my own D loops as a starting point for doing my own bow tech work. That said, I know its hard to explain in text but how exactly do you burn the ball on the loop to keep it from pulling through? Kinda scares me to think about pulling it back and it slips through. Whats a good way to get started and practice?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deezlin View Post
    I have completed tying in my D-loop. I melt the first ball on the rope and then wax the rope before beginning.
    Ok, this might be a stupid question, but as I'm going to redo my loop this evening using these tied nock sets, why do you wax the loop material before beginning? Won't this make the knots harder to get tight? Is that the point until you get it in the right position?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThunderEagle View Post
    Ok, this might be a stupid question, but as I'm going to redo my loop this evening using these tied nock sets, why do you wax the loop material before beginning? Won't this make the knots harder to get tight? Is that the point until you get it in the right position?
    I think it actually makes the knot grip better.

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    Great Post. Thank you for the excellent pictures and directions.

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