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    Exclamation Need Specs for a 06 Martin razor X !!!

    OK guys I got a 06 Razor X with MIni Tru Arcsand I need specs ATA and BH with 14" mag limbs SE Limbpockets. I ordered strings and cable a control cable off specs on the Martin website and my ATA is 2" (34 1/2")short and I gained BH too 9 1/4". With the 06 cataloge it says with Mini Tru Arc + cams the specs should be 36 1/4" ATA and 8 7/8" BH. Joel if ya se this message PM me! I am also having a problem with the control cable gettin cut by the cam also!
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    TTT guys need a littile help here where are all the M4L ppl!

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    send a PM to Joel C
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoytFlinger View Post
    send a PM yo Joel C
    Already did! thank for the help!

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    TTT I changed this bow from a Dyna cam today to the tru arc cams if that helps but all specs are by the Tru Arc Cams!

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    TTT Some one here has to know the specs of this bow. UGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG GGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHH Joel C or Pug or Doc , Nutsnbolts HELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLPPPPPPPPPPP PPPPPPPPP!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elk4me View Post
    TTT Some one here has to know the specs of this bow. UGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG GGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHH Joel C or Pug or Doc , Nutsnbolts HELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLPPPPPPPPPPP PPPPPPPPP!
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    Over all cam rotation:


    Gap in top cam:


    Cable hitting Bottom Cam:


    Top cam Rotation:

    Bottom Cam rotation:
    Last edited by Elk4me; June 3rd, 2007 at 05:17 AM.

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    [QUOTE=Elk4me;4725343]TTT

    Hello Elk4me:

    The Razor X SE is the M79.
    I couldn't get the 2006 specs table to open,
    but I could see the 2005 specs table.

    Let's start at the beginning.


    For the "small" Tru Arc cam...

    2005 m-79
    SE -- Shoot: 50" Split: 36" Contr: 40"

    Bowstring length = 50-inches
    Control Cable length = 40-inches
    Buss Cable length = 36-inches


    2005 Razor X SE ATA = 36.75 inches (2005 Martin Catalog)
    2005 Razor X SE BH = 8-7/8 inches

    2006 Razor X SE ATA = 36-3/4 (2006 Martin Catalog)
    2006 Razor X SE BH = 8-7/8 inches (2006 Martin Catalog)


    So,
    I would take off the bowstring,
    and put one end loop around a 1/4-inch diameter bolt.

    Put the other end loop into the hook on a ratchet strap,
    and stretch tight, and confirm that the length is 50-inches.


    Now, take off the buss cable,
    and stretch it tight. Confirm the length is 36-inches.

    Now, take the control cable,
    and stretch it tight. Confirm the control cable length = 40-inches.


    If your ATA is several inches less than the factory spec,
    your cable lengths must be way too short.

    The way too short cable lengths would explain
    the extreme twist you are seeing in the limbs.
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    [QUOTE=nuts&bolts;4725637]
    Quote Originally Posted by Elk4me View Post
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    Hello Elk4me:

    The Razor X SE is the M79.
    I couldn't get the 2006 specs table to open,
    but I could see the 2005 specs table.

    Let's start at the beginning.


    For the "small" Tru Arc cam...

    2005 m-79
    SE -- Shoot: 50" Split: 36" Contr: 40"

    Bowstring length = 50-inches
    Control Cable length = 40-inches
    Buss Cable length = 36-inches


    2005 Razor X SE ATA = 36.75 inches (2005 Martin Catalog)
    2005 Razor X SE BH = 8-7/8 inches

    2006 Razor X SE ATA = 36-3/4 (2006 Martin Catalog)
    2006 Razor X SE BH = 8-7/8 inches (2006 Martin Catalog)


    So,
    I would take off the bowstring,
    and put one end loop around a 1/4-inch diameter bolt.

    Put the other end loop into the hook on a ratchet strap,
    and stretch tight, and confirm that the length is 50-inches.


    Now, take off the buss cable,
    and stretch it tight. Confirm the length is 36-inches.

    Now, take the control cable,
    and stretch it tight. Confirm the control cable length = 40-inches.


    If your ATA is several inches less than the factory spec,
    your cable lengths must be way too short.

    The way too short cable lengths would explain
    the extreme twist you are seeing in the limbs.
    Nutsnbolts we did all of this yesterday that is why I PM'd Joel C. So I dont know what the deal is Fasst said there was some wrong specs on the cam charts so maybe the specs on the harness is wrong but I have all the right sz cable, String, and control cable. I am totally baffled

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    Quote Originally Posted by nuts&bolts View Post

    Nutsnbolts we did all of this yesterday that is why I PM'd Joel C. So I dont know what the deal is Fasst said there was some wrong specs on the cam charts so maybe the specs on the harness is wrong but I have all the right sz cable, String, and control cable. I am totally baffled
    Ok...could you have the buss cable and the control cable switched. I know, silly question but heck, sometimes it's the little things that get us.

    Good luck in getting it fixed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elk4me View Post

    Ok...could you have the buss cable and the control cable switched. I know, silly question but heck, sometimes it's the little things that get us.

    Good luck in getting it fixed.
    Nope goofy we check all legnths and even checked the placement on the diagram like 4 times everything is correct! Man this is racking my brain and I dont know what it is! Alll I can think is the measurements on the cam chart are wrong. But only time wil tell. If I have to ship the bow back to Walla2 I have NP with it. I know the fine ppl at martin will get the problem sloved
    Last edited by Elk4me; June 3rd, 2007 at 10:16 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elk4me View Post
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    So are you really frustrated yet?.....If so just send the bow to me, I'll take care of it for you...Oh and I'll keep it as well.


    I've been trying to come up with something myself....No luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goofy2788 View Post
    So are you really frustrated yet?.....If so just send the bow to me, I'll take care of it for you...Oh and I'll keep it as well.


    I've been trying to come up with something myself....No luck.
    Your pretty funny Goofy thats why I like you. AND NO YOU CANT HAVE MY BOW! A littile furstrated and I know come tomorrow one call to Martin will get it fixed!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elk4me View Post
    Your pretty funny Goofy thats why I like you. AND NO YOU CANT HAVE MY BOW! A littile furstrated and I know come tomorrow one call to Martin will get it fixed!
    yeah...I can be pretty annoying...err I mean funny at times.


    But heck if I didn't provide you with comic relief while your waiting and not being able to shoot that there Martin you just might go off the deep end and order a bowtech or something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goofy2788 View Post
    yeah...I can be pretty annoying...err I mean funny at times.


    But heck if I didn't provide you with comic relief while your waiting and not being able to shoot that there Martin you just might go off the deep end and order a bowtech or something.
    I dont think so buddy M4L baby!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elk4me View Post
    I dont think so buddy M4L baby!

    Yeah I know.

    I haven't seen joel around all weekend...He ususally pops in every now and then but I haven't seen him here, his BB or another one we're both on.

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    Lets see,,, "E4M goes off the deep end and takes a Goofy dog with him",,,,,,,wow, this is getting serious.


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    Quote Originally Posted by matforme View Post
    Lets see,,, "E4M goes off the deep end and takes a Goofy dog with him",,,,,,,wow, this is getting serious.

    Goofy is way off the deep end more than me! I am just going senial trying to get the info I need to fix this bow!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elk4me View Post
    Goofy is way off the deep end more than me! I am just going senial trying to get the info I need to fix this bow!

    Dang..why do I have to be the insane one.

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    maybe now the weekend is over and Joel got his Superman cape out of the cleaners . I should get an answer today!

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