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    NAA Investigation

    You all have been way to quite about the NAA for to long now. Correct me if Im wrong but given that an election is to take place in less then two weeks aren't we supposed to have ballots 30 days prior to the elections? This violates the constitution. What gives, Is Brad Camp truely playing to the beat of his own music. Maybe he should have stayed home from Germany and got his work done.


    Now for the really juicy stuff. There was an independent audit of the NAA books and it seems as thought there is around 250,000.00 missing/in somebody elses pockets. No not a rumor but you can look up the info on the El paso County Court web page and find it there. Its all true. Seems to me that money was leaving and someone was sleeping or getting a take as well. No wounder people have been asked to leave and been told to keep there mouth shut if they know whats good for them.




    As the NAA world turns. Should be interesting to see how this all shakes out. Looks like maybe this shake up has been long over due!


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    My, My, This should get entertaining before to long.

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    Do you have a link to this alleged filing? I can't find it.

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    TWEELOW, please provide a link to this info.

    I am not disputing your claim, but this is just too serious to be left here without verification.

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    http://www.gofourth.org is the website, I think, though I have not found anything pertinent there (yet) . Perhaps someone else will be more successful...
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    Was browsing around the cited website, looking (unsuccessfully, so far) for info on the alleged embezzlement. Didn't find anything about that, but noticed who the County Clerk and Recorder is: none other than Bob Balink, former Executive Director of the NAA. (BTW, the county recorder function has nothing to do with any investigation or prosecution of the alleged incident.)

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    http://adm2.elpasoco.com/countypress...rrent&offset=0
    http://www.elpasoco.com/

    Those are the El Paso County websites. The search function on them shows nothing related to these claims.

    Google links:
    Searching the news:
    http://news.google.com/news?q=audit+...=1&sa=N&tab=wn
    http://news.google.com/news?client=f...nG=Search+News
    http://news.google.com/news?client=f...nG=Search+News


    the web...
    http://www.google.com/search?tab=nw&...%20association




    Since you seem to know where information is Twee, how about providing it? Libel isn't a joke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spangler View Post
    http://adm2.elpasoco.com/countypress...rrent&offset=0
    http://www.elpasoco.com/

    Those are the El Paso County websites. The search function on them shows nothing related to these claims.

    Google links:
    Searching the news:
    http://news.google.com/news?q=audit+...=1&sa=N&tab=wn
    http://news.google.com/news?client=f...nG=Search+News
    http://news.google.com/news?client=f...nG=Search+News


    the web...
    http://www.google.com/search?tab=nw&...%20association




    Since you seem to know where information is Twee, how about providing it? Libel isn't a joke.

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    Spangler, Figure out the name of the person arrested and you can find all the info you want. This in fact did happen. I personally confirmed it with a reliable source at the Police department. (namely my brother who is a cop)

    I doubt this will be the last arrest before this one is over with!

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    This is the best topic ever. I sincerely hope that the NAA's top brass is linked to terrorism and a Jewish conspiracy against Aryan supremacy before this thread is deleted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BHNTR1 View Post
    Spangler, Figure out the name of the person arrested and you can find all the info you want. This in fact did happen. I personally confirmed it with a reliable source at the Police department. (namely my brother who is a cop)

    I doubt this will be the last arrest before this one is over with!
    Interesting. So, who was arrested? Since you know and have confirmed it can you please provide the name? When did it happen?

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    I am sorry, but this is getting to be "a friend of a friend of a friend of a friend's roomate told me, and I heard it on the corner, so it must be true."

    If this is true, please post a link to a report, either in the media, the NAA website, or in court papers. These are serious allegations and, if false, may make this thread libelous.

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    Wow,

    I'd love to be the first one to say "I told you so", but it's probably best to hold off 'till it's in the news

    FYI, I believe if you want arrest records, you'll have to fill out the forms and pay the fee.....it's a mail thing.

    I could be wrong, but in our state, it's not posted on the web.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spots_N_Dots View Post
    Wow,

    I'd love to be the first one to say "I told you so", but it's probably best to hold off 'till it's in the news

    FYI, I believe if you want arrest records, you'll have to fill out the forms and pay the fee.....it's a mail thing.

    I could be wrong, but in our state, it's not posted on the web.
    Good point, but the office over there in El Paso County seems to be pretty darn good about posting news releases up about investigations and information. There is nothing about this alleged issue so far.

    *shrug* If a quarter of a million dollars is found to be missing and arrests are made, the local reporters will be all over it. It will be in the news. I'll gladly accept that something fishy is going on at that point...but until then I wish this thread could be removed from existance.

    Right now Google shows nothing in the news about NAA and embezzelment, but soon it will show one thing, this thread where so far only unfounded claims have been made. This thread should be removed before google indexes it unless someone can provide proof of claims made.

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    I heard about it too...but it is totally unsubstantiated.
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    I called the district attourny's office. There is a case open and arrest made. The case number is 07CR3003.

    It's a sad sad day

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    I am going to leave this thread up for now.

    Please, do NOT name names or post unsubstantiated speculation, or the thread will have to be locked or deleted.

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    I did a Google search for "07CR3003" and "el paso county", a search for "07CR3003" and "el paso", and aearch for "07CR300" and "docket" and go no results each time. I also did a search on http://www.elpasoco.com/ for "07CR300" and got nothing. However, if this still being investigate by the DA, there may be nothing on the web yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TWEELOW View Post
    Now for the really juicy stuff. There was an independent audit of the NAA books and it seems as thought there is around 250,000.00 missing/in somebody elses pockets. No not a rumor but you can look up the info on the El paso County Court web page and find it there. Its all true. Seems to me that money was leaving and someone was sleeping or getting a take as well. No wounder people have been asked to leave and been told to keep there mouth shut if they know whats good for them.

    As the NAA world turns. Should be interesting to see how this all shakes out. Looks like maybe this shake up has been long over due!
    If true, this would certainly explain why the NAA needed so many "unfunded" events for compounders.

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    I called the Court and after a long wait gave them the Case number. It is a Case with two over $15,000 charges. I will not leave a name because I do not know this person and if they have any ties to the NAA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Recordkeeper View Post
    I am going to leave this thread up for now.

    Please, do NOT name names or post unsubstantiated speculation, or the thread will have to be locked or deleted.

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    It would seem to me that this is not the only thread that suffers from "unsubstantiated speculation". If you shut down all "unsubstantiated speculation", A/T would get substantially smaller.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CM JOAD View Post
    It would seem to me that this is not the only thread that suffers from "unsubstantiated speculation". If you shut down all "unsubstantiated speculation", A/T would get substantially smaller.
    While there is certainly truth to the statement that there is "unsubstantiated speculation" on AT, our objective in this instance is to prevent unwarranted reputational (and perhaps even financial) harm to individuals and/organizations.

    I'm sure we can all agree that this is a volatile and very sensitive matter. I'd rather not see rumor and innuendo fill the gaps in known facts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Recordkeeper View Post
    While there is certainly truth to the statement that there is "unsubstantiated speculation" on AT, our objective in this instance is to prevent unwarranted reputational (and perhaps even financial) harm to individuals and/organizations.

    I'm sure we can all agree that this is a volatile and very sensitive matter. I'd rather not see rumor and innuendo fill the gaps in known facts.
    Interesting! Without "unsubstantiated speculation", there hasn't been a post in over two hours!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CM JOAD View Post
    Interesting! Without "unsubstantiated speculation", there hasn't been a post in over two hours!
    The problem is that we do not have any official paperwork to back the reason that this person has been charged. The person had worked for the NAA and has been charged with two counts. That is where it ends for now until a news agency or a local goes to the Court and gets the official account to print. I do not think speculating the amount, the when, the where, and why does nothing but to add to the confusion.
    Also I think the USOC, NAA, and Colorado Springs are going to keep this quiet because all scandals hurt their funding and the sport involved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CM JOAD View Post
    It would seem to me that this is not the only thread that suffers from "unsubstantiated speculation". If you shut down all "unsubstantiated speculation", A/T would get substantially smaller.
    Are you saying then that AT is Unsubstantially large

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