March 28th, 2008, 02:25 PM
Bowtech String Suppressor problems???
I bought a Bowtech 82nd AB about a month ago. Anyone out there running in to accuracy problems possibly caused by the "Shortstop" String Suppressor on the Bowtech's?
March 28th, 2008, 02:29 PM
I have not found any problems with mine. Make sure that it is aliened in the center of the string and about 1/8'' away from the string. Good luck
March 28th, 2008, 02:29 PM
I have been shooting well with my 82nd..... Did you try removing it to see if it changed your arrow flight?
March 28th, 2008, 02:32 PM
That arrow should be long gone and on the right path by the time that the string supressor messes with your string. Like the last poster said, make sure that it is alligned in the center of the string. The only problems that I have seen happen with the supressor is the serving wears out faster from bumping it all of the time. Other than that, it should not affect your accuracy at all. You should take it off quick and see if that makes a difference when you shoot. It is probably the tuning of your bow I imagine.
March 28th, 2008, 03:08 PM
what???? you are kidding right? the arrow stays on the string until the string stops moving forward. the string stop makes contact and stops the string so arrow is on. are you thinking the arrow comes off during the shot before the string gets back to brace? the short stop has a "y" channel in it that the string must go into and it has to be adjusted just right or else you will get a side to side motion as the string slams into the side of the "y" and moves to the center channel.
Originally Posted by fishnhuntr77
March 28th, 2008, 04:27 PM
Thanks for the quick feedback! I will take the suppressor off and see what happens. I agree with you all about this. However, I was at an archery shop (BT Dealer) last weeken and there were a couple of guys shooting 82's and 101's. I noticed that they had removed the string stop and had installed STS string supressors on the lower limbs. I asked them about this and they said that their groups improved drastically when they removed the BT string stop and installed the STS unit! The dealer sells the STS unit and recommends them, he cuts the arm so they will fit in the rear mounting hole on the limb! I was very dissapointed to learn this! I tried to get on the BT Forum but I got an error message that the site is no longer available. I hate paying $30.00 for an add-on after spending $700.00 plus on a new setup! Thanks again for the feedback!
March 28th, 2008, 04:38 PM
The other poster is correct with the bowtech supressor. I was actually thinking of a martin supressor which does not have the Y design. It is strictly a Solid stopper pad. The bowtch stopper does need to be adjusted to the center of the string.. Sorry about the confusion and mixup on my part.
Last edited by fishnhuntr77; March 28th, 2008 at 04:43 PM.
March 28th, 2008, 04:44 PM
I have too many bows to think about!
March 28th, 2008, 04:51 PM
I took mine off and put an after market on at the rear stabilizer hole. I kept setting poor arrow flight every now and then, I could see the arrow fishtail. Changed string stoppers and problem solved. The factory short stop wore out pretty quick also. And yes, I adjusted it every way it could be adjusted. I think the factory stopper would work better if the string was striking a flat surface. Just my opinion.
March 28th, 2008, 04:55 PM
Take heart, the Short Stop unit will work, but you do need to adjust it.
Originally Posted by SEII
The STS and other similar systems, except for Hoyt that also has the groove, have a flat face. This reduces or eliminates the set-up time in finding the correct center. In reality, I find the 101st needs to have the short stop set with the grove about half a string thickness to the right of the string at brace height (right handed bow). The 82nd is maybe 3/4 of a groove off.
Of course the dealer wants to sell more items, his money is in the accessories. I'll bet he wishes that BT did not include them at all.
March 28th, 2008, 05:55 PM
The supressors need to be tuned on about 80% of the BT bows that we get in. Make sure that the supressor is as far forward as possible and about 1/2 string width left of exact center for a right hand shooter. I tried shooting a General with no supressor and it was noisy as a 10 year old compound. Please update us with results on aftermarket systems on the BTs.
Best of luck and good shootin'.
March 28th, 2008, 06:01 PM
String Tamer Junior
I PUT THE STRING TAMER JUNIOR ON MINE.SEEMS TO BE GROUPING BETTER & ALSO LOOKS BETTER ON THE BOW.GOTTA LOOK GOOD EVEN IF YOU SHOOT BAD!
March 28th, 2008, 07:28 PM
Quiter with the after market too.
March 28th, 2008, 08:02 PM
Adjusting the string suppressor makes the bow quiter too. My dealer hates having too readjust every Bowtech he gets in!
March 28th, 2008, 08:21 PM
The String Tamer Senior or Junior with the damper built in is the way to go for the 82nd or the 101st I think.
March 28th, 2008, 08:24 PM
I finally took mine off I was on my second rubber stop... I just have an STS on it. Also I'm confused on side says offest the string stop on the string and another group say center it on the string Anyhow if you get one just buy the STS screw it on and be done with it...
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14 Obsession Evolution L/H 70lbs 354 gr arrow @340 f.p.s
March 28th, 2008, 11:53 PM
The String Tamer has a little larger and it will pretty much bolt on in line with your string on most bows.
March 31st, 2008, 11:06 AM
Where can I get a string tamer junior?
March 31st, 2008, 02:15 PM
I have one on the way as well, and it DOE'S HAVE TO BE A Junior ON THE 82 the senior will not fit on the 82. I got mine on E-bay play around with how you word it there are a lot of them, it's made by Duravane, or if you don't mind paying a lil extra money go to Duravane.com and order one there.
Originally Posted by bowhunter1313
March 31st, 2008, 02:41 PM
Ok I just got an 82nd. Is the string suppressor supposed to move even after you have the screws tightened. I have it set at the center but I can move it fairly easy with my hand. No need to loosen the screws because it pivots at that dog bone looking link. This is the 2nd one I have had on it and both do the same thing. How can it stay centered if it can be moved fairly easily?
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April 1st, 2008, 12:44 PM
You may need to remove the socket head screws completely and remove the system from the dog leg. Then you may need to file the rods smooth before you install it. One issue I have found is that metal is far softer than I would like, and the socket head screws should be nylon tipped.
Originally Posted by Garin22
If you can find the nylon tipped screws, replace it and it will work great. You know, the after marked options are looking better and better all the time.
April 1st, 2008, 01:16 PM
I am sure he does. He would much rather take your money quick and
Originally Posted by tommb
kick your arss out the door. It would make being a shop owner so much
easier. Lord knows every other bow maker has their bows set
up perfectly when they arrive.
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May 4th, 2008, 08:09 PM
Well my bow is shooting straight, but I've been running into the same problem that others have. My string loop on my BT 82nd Airborne keeps turning. This causes my string to twist enough to mess up my peep line-up. I know what the problem is, it's the factory string stop. The V-grove style stop catches the string off to one side instead of in the middle. Ok, maybe my form is off, maybe not. But why is my string hitting almost a 1/4 inch to the right of the middle? I was going to move the stop so that it hits in the center, and not care where the string sits at idle.
Originally Posted by SEII
I emailed Bowtech, and got this guy named John Nelson answering my email. I told him of the problem. All he could tell me was that the rubber will wear out, and that Bowtech sells new ones. WHAT???? That's not what I wanted to hear. I emailed him back. He then told me to super glue the string loop to the string. How can this guy represent Bowtech???? Anyone in their right mind knows this could cause premature failure of the bow string, thus possibly wrecking the bow!?!?
Well, I am not taking his advice!! I ordered a String Tamer Jr. and also a String Tamer replacement rubber bumper. I am not shooting my bow until they arrive. I am going to install the rubber bumper in place of the factory stop, and also put the String Tamer Jr. below. I work in a machine shop, so if I need to modify the factory mount to accept the rubber bumper, I will. I'll try to keep you posted. And if I can figure out how to add photos, I'll post them as well. I'm not happy with spending an extra $65 or so to fix something that the factory couldn't get right!!!!!!
July 26th, 2008, 02:44 AM
Nelson is an idiot.
I test shot a 101st and it was tearing 3-4" holes in paper (no matter what we tried to adjust) and he told me to try shooting groups at longer ranges and I would get good results. I guess I don't understand how a bow can shoot good groups if it doesn't shoot good holes in paper. Where is he getting his info from?
I can only imagine how much actual experience he really has. (especially with the company he represents) It ended up that the bow had a bad cam.
what an idiot!
July 26th, 2008, 02:51 AM
I was getting the occaisional left flyer outta mine until i put a fuse stopper on. I can't say for sure that I won't get flyers, but haven't since the switch.....it got quieter, too. Then the lower limb de-lammed, then i got it replaced, still no more flyers.
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