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    early doe season in Michigan

    The DNR gave us an early doe season starting tomorrow. The books said it is a firearm season. Normally, during our firearm season we can use our bows as long as we have a firearm license or a combo license. I just talked to a buddy who works for the DNR and they are saying this doe season is FIREARM ONLY. What the hell were they thinking? I am NOT going to go out in my woods with a gun to educate the bucks 2 weeks before bow season. I planned on hunting field edges from my tent with my bow. Guess I'm out for this one.



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    Our gun season is gun season. You can use a bow but you have to abide by the laws set up for gun season. Basically you have to wear hunter orange when you go out. My wives cousin is a conservation officer.
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    That sounds good. I know that you have to abide by the laws of gun season, and I'm fine with that. So he is saying that we can use our bows?

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    I think it's crap to even has this early hunt! spooks all the bucks. i'm still seeing fawns with spots.

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    oh boy, i hope we can go with our bows, or else im going to be out for this one too.
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    straight from the dnr website
    Special Antlerless-Only Deer Season Opens Sept. 18 - Private Land Only
    Contact: 517-373-1263 Rod Clute
    Agency: Natural Resources



    September 12, 2008
    Department of Natural Resources officials remind hunters that a special five-day, antlerless-only deer season begins Thursday, Sept. 18, in all of Zone 3, the southern Lower Peninsula, and in the six counties of Presque Isle, Montmorency, Alpena, Alcona, Oscoda, and Iosco in the northeastern Lower Peninsula.

    "Despite liberal hunting regulations, we've been unable to bring deer numbers down to within our management goals in most of the region," explained DNR Deer Specialist Rod Clute. "We are hoping hunters will take advantage of this special season and help us manage the herd by taking adult does."

    The Sept. 18-22 season is a firearms season; hunters may use archery gear, but are required to wear hunter orange as they would during any firearm season. Hunters are reminded it is illegal to bait deer due to the recent discovery of Chronic Wasting Disease (CWD) in a captive deer facility in Kent County.

    Hunters in the nine-township CWD Surveillance Zone in Kent County, including Tyrone, Solon, Nelson, Sparta, Algoma, Courtland, Alpine, Plainfield, and Cannon townships, are required to bring the deer to a check station for mandatory CWD testing. For more information on CWD, visit www.michigan.gov/chronicwastingdisease.

    For more information on deer hunting dates and regulations, check the 2008 Michigan Hunting and Trapping Guide, or visit www.michigan.gov/dnr.


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    I'm not going out until Oct 1. You guys can go ahead and scare all deer onto my land. I shoot doe's in dec, when it cold out.

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    That early doe season is BS, i dont like it one bit, its supposed to be like 80 degrees this weekend, my thoughts on it are, people are gonna go out, put a bad shot on a doe, go back later, and the thing is gonna be rotten, and their gonna leave it their, And yes, i know that wont happen to everyone, but still.

    And who in their sane mind would even want to go out their when its that warm, the bugs are gonna be terrible, your gonna sweat and smell and get winded, and it pisses me of that their are gonna be people out tromping around through the woods, mowing down does just over a week before bow season, ya thats great, go make all the deer really jumpy and parinoid before us guys go out their and hunt the big buck weve been watching the past couple weeks, ya hes long gone, down in the swamps hiding, and not showing till dark.
    And yes, i am a gun hunter, but my love for archery and bow hunting cannot be beaten, i leave gun hunting until NOVEMBER 15, like its supposed to be not in freaken september.
    Ok im done i think, im sorry for the long post, but i had to vent.
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    This just goes to show what our DNR is really like...Just think how many deer are going to lay and rot in the fields...in this weather if you dont immediately get to your deer, get it out of the woods and have it processed it will be spoiled in just a few hours...I cant seem to understand why they didnt have this season in Jan. when all the fawns have quit nursing and snow will be on the ground to help with tracking wounded deer and all the other season hunters have had their chance to bag a deer...thats just our incompetent DNR...they've just managed to mess up hunting in Michigan for the rest of the year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fireman1690m View Post
    The DNR gave us an early doe season starting tomorrow. The books said it is a firearm season. Normally, during our firearm season we can use our bows as long as we have a firearm license or a combo license. I just talked to a buddy who works for the DNR and they are saying this doe season is FIREARM ONLY. What the hell were they thinking? I am NOT going to go out in my woods with a gun to educate the bucks 2 weeks before bow season. I planned on hunting field edges from my tent with my bow. Guess I'm out for this one.
    I suspect your buddy must not work for the Law Division, as he is mistaken. Archery equipment is legal during that season as long as hunter orange is worn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MUZZYxSHOOTER View Post
    That early doe season is BS, i dont like it one bit, its supposed to be like 80 degrees this weekend, my thoughts on it are, people are gonna go out, put a bad shot on a doe, go back later, and the thing is gonna be rotten, and their gonna leave it their, And yes, i know that wont happen to everyone, but still.

    And who in their sane mind would even want to go out their when its that warm, the bugs are gonna be terrible, your gonna sweat and smell and get winded, and it pisses me of that their are gonna be people out tromping around through the woods, mowing down does just over a week before bow season, ya thats great, go make all the deer really jumpy and parinoid before us guys go out their and hunt the big buck weve been watching the past couple weeks, ya hes long gone, down in the swamps hiding, and not showing till dark.
    And yes, i am a gun hunter, but my love for archery and bow hunting cannot be beaten, i leave gun hunting until NOVEMBER 15, like its supposed to be not in freaken september.
    Ok im done i think, im sorry for the long post, but i had to vent.
    The hunt is only on PRIVATE lands, so landowners can choose to participate.

    Obviously, our friends to the South do not agree with your assessment of hunting in the heat. Their season open earlier than ours and the heat hnags on down there much longer.

    While I do not agree with the early doe season, the heat is not an issue. The best way for this to be ended is for hunters to speak up and complain to the NRC. Venting here is nice, but ineffective.

    Good luck this fall.
    Dan

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    wow, a bunch of whiners.
    I dont necessarily LIKE the early season hunt, but im taking a cousin who has never killed, or even shot at, a deer with his bow.Thats my choice to take him, no one elses, why does anybody else care if we hunt one spot, and you hunt next door, guess where the deer are gunna hide, your place!!
    Im not shooting this weekend... but im taking somebody to hopefully shoot his first with a bow.
    Does that mean ill be out TROMPING through the woods, making bad shots on a doe, leaving it to rot, heck no. To the stand and back, follow the trail till shes found.
    And if the big bucks go hide in the swamp, hunt the dang swamp
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    have a couple of bags of ice on hand to pack the chest cavity.

    Stupid early season, i'm going golfin instead. to hot still
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    I'm fired up and ready to roll as soon as I get out of work tomorrow. My goal is to fill at least 3 of my 5 antlerless tags by Sunday. Weather doesn't look much different than the first week of October often is. I don't get all the negative attitudes? The population in the SLP has been way too high for years. We as hunters have demonstrated the unwillingness to harvest the number of does required to bring that population down to targeted levels. The DNR is trying something new. Hopefully it helps. Rather than wring my hands I'm planning on enjoying a little change of pace warm up to the regular season while hopefully doing my small part as a manager of our resource. Now if they will go to a stict one buck limit they might change the habits of the majority of bowhunters who pass does so they can whack the first yearling buck they see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MUZZYxSHOOTER View Post
    That early doe season is BS, i dont like it one bit, its supposed to be like 80 degrees this weekend, my thoughts on it are, people are gonna go out, put a bad shot on a doe, go back later, and the thing is gonna be rotten, and their gonna leave it their, And yes, i know that wont happen to everyone, but still.

    And who in their sane mind would even want to go out their when its that warm, the bugs are gonna be terrible, your gonna sweat and smell and get winded, and it pisses me of that their are gonna be people out tromping around through the woods, mowing down does just over a week before bow season, ya thats great, go make all the deer really jumpy and parinoid before us guys go out their and hunt the big buck weve been watching the past couple weeks, ya hes long gone, down in the swamps hiding, and not showing till dark.
    And yes, i am a gun hunter, but my love for archery and bow hunting cannot be beaten, i leave gun hunting until NOVEMBER 15, like its supposed to be not in freaken september.
    Ok im done i think, im sorry for the long post, but i had to vent.
    Thats a pretty p!ss poor attitude. Why are you not complaining about the youth hunts that have been taking place on the same weekend for the past few years? They go out and "spooke" just as many deer. Hunting is hunting, and I will do every bit of it that I can. This is going to be a great time to be in the woods with my family, study deer movement from a stand, hopefully get myself some meat to go with the beer that we'll be drinking after the sun goes down, and just enjoy the out doors. I am well aware that shot placement will be key do to the rather high temps but dont fool your self into beleiveing that you wouldn't be in the woods on Oct. 1st if the temps were over 70. It's private property, it's 100% legal, it will put some meat in the freezer for some people who NEED it, and it's going to help thin out some of the does which is needed. With that said, don't ruien it for others. If you don't want to go out then don't but don't come on here trying to stir things up and put a guilt trip on fellow hunters.

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    We wouldn't need the early doe season if more people would kill a couple each. We have way too many deer in southern Michigan. Taking 50 deer off the I hunt would just be a good start.

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    positive spin?

    I'm not a huge fan of the early hunt, but I have tried to find a silver lining.

    One thing could be that since there will be less does going into the pre-rut and rut, maybe the bucks will have to do more cruising to find receptive does when the rut starts heating up. In a way, the hunt would be an attempt to adjust the buck:doe ratio in the right direction immediately before the rut, not in December after the rut has ended.

    Another thought would be that maybe it would lead to less small bucks being killed for meat in November. If a gun only hunter fills his freezer in venison from shooting does in September, he might be less likely to shoot a 1.5 year old buck in November just for venison.

    Not sure if either of these scenarios are at all likely or scientifically plausible, but it doesn't make me feel any better to complain about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmarleyzq8 View Post
    Thats a pretty p!ss poor attitude. Why are you not complaining about the youth hunts that have been taking place on the same weekend for the past few years? They go out and "spooke" just as many deer. Hunting is hunting, and I will do every bit of it that I can. This is going to be a great time to be in the woods with my family, study deer movement from a stand, hopefully get myself some meat to go with the beer that we'll be drinking after the sun goes down, and just enjoy the out doors. I am well aware that shot placement will be key do to the rather high temps but dont fool your self into beleiveing that you wouldn't be in the woods on Oct. 1st if the temps were over 70. It's private property, it's 100% legal, it will put some meat in the freezer for some people who NEED it, and it's going to help thin out some of the does which is needed. With that said, don't ruien it for others. If you don't want to go out then don't but don't come on here trying to stir things up and put a guilt trip on fellow hunters.

    Im not on here to "stir things up between people" i hunt private land only around here, and ya, i shoot does to put meat on the table, but i just dont think its necessary to do it when its this early in the year.
    The youth season is only 2 Days long too, not FIVE,
    its dumb that the DNR dosent tack another week on to muzzloading season, or have another week during gun season, like others have stated, the fawns right now are still very close to their moms, towards the end of gun season, they dont have to be around the mom as much, they can actually do fine on their own, but with them just being born, their going to be run off from them.

    I just think this is a bad idea on the count of our DNR.
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    Quote Originally Posted by olney 1 View Post
    I think it's crap to even has this early hunt! spooks all the bucks. i'm still seeing fawns with spots.
    I agree 110%, bucks will be nocturnal by Oct. 1

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    I love this early season hunt!!!

    Thats right all you privet land boys can go scare all the deer onto the state land by me for a change!

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    You guys will complain about anything.

    This is an additional opportunity to hunt!

    How can that be bad? Would you rather they take away opportunities? Quit your whining and hunt how and when you like.

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    I cant beleive the nobody has mentioned my biggest beef with this season. Do you realize how many white trash idiots WILL shoot a buck if given a shot, especially if it happens to be that "buck of a lifetime". I got into a rather big arguement at the bar last weekend with some idiots who were bragging about how they'll shoot any buck they see this weekend. And worse yet, we dont have nearly enough officers around to try to catch these poachers. One fellow hunter and coworker who I USED to respect admitted he'd shoot a buck this weekend if it was 2.5 yrs or older, needless to say I had some choice words for him, but it wont stop him. More bucks will be poached this weekend than most the rest the year combined.

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    Sounds to me like instead of trying to be good stewards of the resource and sportsmen, the crybabies in here just needed another reason to bash the DNR. As if the baiting ban wasn't enough. Hey, if you don't like the early season, don't partake. Somebody give these babies a bottle and shut them up!

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    Quote Originally Posted by skipper34 View Post
    Sounds to me like instead of trying to be good stewards of the resource and sportsmen, the crybabies in here just needed another reason to bash the DNR. As if the baiting ban wasn't enough. Hey, if you don't like the early season, don't partake. Somebody give these babies a bottle and shut them up!
    Just because someone doesnt agree with something, or your opinion, doesnty make them a cry baby. I have the right to my opinion just like you have the right to name call and come on here and post immature, ignorant posts. Please, if you have nothing nice to say. dont say anything at all. I came on here, said how I feel without bashing the DNR, or "crying". I am open to any other opinions, and respect them, unless the most intelligent thing you can say is calling me, or anyone that disagrees with you, a "crybaby".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smada962 View Post
    Just because someone doesnt agree with something, or your opinion, doesnty make them a cry baby. I have the right to my opinion just like you have the right to name call and come on here and post immature, ignorant posts. Please, if you have nothing nice to say. dont say anything at all. I came on here, said how I feel without bashing the DNR, or "crying". I am open to any other opinions, and respect them, unless the most intelligent thing you can say is calling me, or anyone that disagrees with you, a "crybaby".
    Wow!

    I didn't see you called out or quoted.

    Don't see where you would take Skipper's comments so personally.

    Maybe you need to spend some time in the woods, good for the soul.

    You can watch for poachers. Your buddy from work included.

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