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    Pro archer

    Define a pro archer how do i become one



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    From the NFAA side of things its really easy, just pay the $75 Pro dues and you're good to go. After that you can compete in the Pro division at all sanctioned NFAA tournaments.....namely your State, Sectional and National Indoor and Outdoor shoots.

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    Basically you become a "pro" when you choose to pay the extra money to shoot in the pro class at tournaments. Very few people in the industry actually make a living just shooting full time.

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    so this has nothing to do with how good you really are ? just pay the money and get a pro status? thats all i needed to know !!! thanks guys

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    That is pretty much it . There are some general rules in the NFAA By-Laws pertaining to the professional code of conduct. Biggest being you are encouraged to not compete for awards against amateurs once you turn pro, general conduct things, etc. If you shoot any big 3D events run by ASA or IBO, I'm fairly certain you are required to compete in one of their pro divisions. Also, if you do decide to join you are supposed to get an existing pro to sign your membership form as a sponsor. Sponsor's job/responsibility is supposed to let new pros know what the basic rules are.

    After that you shoot as a pro, pay the higher pro entry fees, etc.. You can drop out of the pro division at any time and return to amateur status as long as you did not earn more than $250 (or $300?) at any NFAA-sanctioned tournaments and notify the NFAA offices in writing of your decision.

    That simple. The deterrent to many is the significantly higher entry fees and the fact you need to be shooting near perfect to get into the money at the major tournaments like Nationals, and even Sectionals and State level shoots in some areas . But you do usually get the better shooting times at indoor shoots (i.e. don't have to get up at the crack of dawn Sun a.m.'s if you don't make Championship flight) .

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    Quote Originally Posted by CHPro View Post
    That is pretty much it . There are some general rules in the NFAA By-Laws pertaining to the professional code of conduct. Biggest being you are encouraged to not compete for awards against amateurs once you turn pro, general conduct things, etc. If you shoot any big 3D events run by ASA or IBO, I'm fairly certain you are required to compete in one of their pro divisions. Also, if you do decide to join you are supposed to get an existing pro to sign your membership form as a sponsor. Sponsor's job/responsibility is supposed to let new pros know what the basic rules are.

    After that you shoot as a pro, pay the higher pro entry fees, etc.. You can drop out of the pro division at any time and return to amateur status as long as you did not earn more than $250 (or $300?) at any NFAA-sanctioned tournaments and notify the NFAA offices in writing of your decision.

    That simple. The deterrent to many is the significantly higher entry fees and the fact you need to be shooting near perfect to get into the money at the major tournaments like Nationals, and even Sectionals and State level shoots in some areas . But you do usually get the better shooting times at indoor shoots (i.e. don't have to get up at the crack of dawn Sun a.m.'s if you don't make Championship flight) .

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    Great post!

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    thanks to all that replied i am going to persue this farther

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    Pro also has tax benefits. Most of your money (over a certain amount) including winnings, contigency, and sponsorships will be looked at extra income by the government in most states and must be accounted for in your state and federal taxes. A pro status will give you the "right" to use your expenses (travel, equipment, food, gas, etc.) as tax deductions in some states.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CHPro View Post
    That is pretty much it . There are some general rules in the NFAA By-Laws pertaining to the professional code of conduct. Biggest being you are encouraged to not compete for awards against amateurs once you turn pro, general conduct things, etc. If you shoot any big 3D events run by ASA or IBO, I'm fairly certain you are required to compete in one of their pro divisions. Also, if you do decide to join you are supposed to get an existing pro to sign your membership form as a sponsor. Sponsor's job/responsibility is supposed to let new pros know what the basic rules are.

    After that you shoot as a pro, pay the higher pro entry fees, etc.. You can drop out of the pro division at any time and return to amateur status as long as you did not earn more than $250 (or $300?) at any NFAA-sanctioned tournaments and notify the NFAA offices in writing of your decision.

    That simple. The deterrent to many is the significantly higher entry fees and the fact you need to be shooting near perfect to get into the money at the major tournaments like Nationals, and even Sectionals and State level shoots in some areas . But you do usually get the better shooting times at indoor shoots (i.e. don't have to get up at the crack of dawn Sun a.m.'s if you don't make Championship flight) .

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    Good post Jeff!

    It is 300 dollars.

    I went pro after only shooting a bow 2 years. Never regretted it and learned a lot. Still learning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gobblengrunt View Post
    Pro also has tax benefits. Most of your money (over a certain amount) including winnings, contigency, and sponsorships will be looked at extra income by the government in most states and must be accounted for in your state and federal taxes. A pro status will give you the "right" to use your expenses (travel, equipment, food, gas, etc.) as tax deductions in some states.
    You can only write off as much as you take in.
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    how do you get your name out to sponsors thats what i dont get?? do you just get picked up by sponsors or what? sorry for the hijack but i had to ask
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoyt1021 View Post
    how do you get your name out to sponsors thats what i dont get?? do you just get picked up by sponsors or what? sorry for the hijack but i had to ask
    by letting your actions speak for you. If you are consistantly finishing at the top of the pack week in and week out all season long. People will take notice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoyt1021 View Post
    how do you get your name out to sponsors thats what i dont get?? do you just get picked up by sponsors or what? sorry for the hijack but i had to ask
    You don't need sponsors to be a pro.

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    ???

    do explain swami ?

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    Not sure what you want me to explain.

    There is no requirement to be a sponsored shooter if you want to join the NFAA pro class.

    I shoot pro and have just a string sponsor.

    No pro shooting out there has to be sponsored.

    If you want to be a sponsored shooter, then send in your resumes to manufacturers and show how you could be a benefit to them.

    If you want to be a pro, turn pro.

    If you want to be a sponsored shooter, show why they would want you to promote them.

    If you want to be both, then do both.

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    so basicly what you set your self out to do and do it to the best of your ability great answer i'll start by more top 5 finishes more practices and of course sending resumes

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    sounds easier than i thought, just have to get to more and bigger shoots i guess. thanks!
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    hey hoyt1021 just got your request if there are any big shoots between MO and PA i'd shoot with ya

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    Isn't it sad though, that pro status comes with money on the table? I'm just curious, isn't there a whole ethical thing that goes with it? I'm a recurve archer from SA and this pro status thing eludes me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tan-Tan View Post
    Isn't it sad though, that pro status comes with money on the table? I'm just curious, isn't there a whole ethical thing that goes with it? I'm a recurve archer from SA and this pro status thing eludes me.
    Ethical? What possible ethical dilemma could be associated with being a pro?

    Being a pro proves one thing: at one point in your life you had seventy-five dollars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoyt1021 View Post
    how do you get your name out to sponsors thats what i dont get?? do you just get picked up by sponsors or what? sorry for the hijack but i had to ask
    Be careful of what you ask for some come with strings attached; I’m not going to mention the bow company that was my sponsor several years ago, but it was better for me to buy my own equipment. I just couldn’t maintain the B.S. that came with it; I got so tired of working all the events they scheduled for me, I’d rather be on my own.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bjank View Post
    Be careful of what you ask for some come with strings attached; I’m not going to mention the bow company that was my sponsor several years ago, but it was better for me to buy my own equipment. I just couldn’t maintain the B.S. that came with it; I got so tired of working all the events they scheduled for me, I’d rather be on my own.
    Nothing is "free"....but a lot of people hear that 4 letter word and think..."now that's a deal there, free equipment!! Nah...it isn't free now is it?

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    Wow, old thread. Still true though. I wonder if the op is still around and if he turned pro or not? If so I'd be curious to know his experiences.

    Your right, nothing is free but the things I do for my sponsors are things I enjoy doing.

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    I used to think shooting pro class was something really special. Then I signed up. Now I realize it it's current state as far as the NFAA is concerned pro division is just that, a division. It's really no different than bowhunter or bare bow in their eyes. Chuck and some others are working really hard at changing that though.

    Becoming a pro member is easy, you pay your dues and a higher fee to compete. That's really all that's necessary. You don't need to be sponsored by a bow company and just becasue you shoot pro class doesn't mean you get showered with offers either. LOL.

    There are lots of individual reasons for joining pro class. For some it's the later line times, others it's the idea or ability to tell people that don't know any better that you're a professional archer. For me it was because I knew I could compete with the best shooters and pro class is where they are.

    I think if someone is shooting well enough to make the move and can afford it, they should. Move on so some else can move up in the ameture ranks. Let someone else be the big fish in the pond for a while. If you want to shoot like the best you really do need to shoot with the best in my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AT_X_HUNTER View Post
    I used to think shooting pro class was something really special. Then I signed up. Now I realize it it's current state as far as the NFAA is concerned pro division is just that, a division. It's really no different than bowhunter or bare bow in their eyes. Chuck and some others are working really hard at changing that though.

    Becoming a pro member is easy, you pay your dues and a higher fee to compete. That's really all that's necessary. You don't need to be sponsored by a bow company and just becasue you shoot pro class doesn't mean you get showered with offers either. LOL.

    There are lots of individual reasons for joining pro class. For some it's the later line times, others it's the idea or ability to tell people that don't know any better that you're a professional archer. For me it was because I knew I could compete with the best shooters and pro class is where they are.

    I think if someone is shooting well enough to make the move and can afford it, they should. Move on so some else can move up in the ameture ranks. Let someone else be the big fish in the pond for a while. If you want to shoot like the best you really do need to shoot with the best in my opinion.
    Honestly, that's why I'm doing it... I WANT to get beat like I stole something.... I feel like its the only way I can eventually learn to shoot at that level. Hopefully one of these days I will have a lucky or good day and win something. I know if I put the work into it, even better results will eventually come.

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