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Old April 17th, 2009, 06:23 PM
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2009 Compound Hunting Bow Evaluations ...

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The links below contain the introduction and initial product reviews for the 2009 Compound Hunting Bow Evaluation. The format for this year's evaluation is very similar to last year's in that individual write-ups are provided for each compound bow. The "Long-Draw" category is new for 2009 and I'm hopeful we can provide some meaningful information for those of you with longer draw lengths. Please use this thread to discuss the results, ask any questions, or provide feedback. We'd love to hear your thoughts!

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Introduction:
2009 Compound Hunting Bow Evaluation Introduction

Reports:
Bear The Truth 2 - Flagship
BowTech Admiral - Flagship
Diamond IceMan - Flagship
Hoyt AlphaMax 32 - Flagship
PSE Bow Madness XL - Flagship
Quest XPB - Flagship
Ross Carnivore 34 - Flagship


New Reports - 7/3/09
APA Innovations Mamba MX2 - Flagship
Anderson Bow Company Crow XL - Flagship
Darton Pro3500 - Flagship
Elite Z28 - Flagship
Horton Vertical Encore - Flagship
Mathews Reezen 6.5 - Flagship
Rytera Alien-X - Flagship

GT500 w/ Cuda Cams - Short Draw

Mathews McPherson Series Monster XLR8 - Speed Bow


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Anthony, make sure you add the Rytera Alien to the list...
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Good stuff! Amazing how the numbers - while differences are small actually translate well into personal shooting experience. Will be anxious to see the Elite z28 out there- Imagine that's on the list.
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You should consider some youth archers testing some youth bows that have poundage over 40 draw weight....just a suggestion.
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You should consider some youth archers testing some youth bows that have poundage over 40 draw weight....just a suggestion.
Are there any specific models that you would suggest? We do have a "short-draw" test category that includes 50# peak draw-weight and 26" draw length. Is that what you are asking for?
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So, the speed for this tested 2009 bows is with 60#, 7" to 7,5" bh and 29" dl 296 up to 316 fps.

Nothing we haven't had in the last years.

Now, I wait for the speed bow tests, for example, the Monster from Mathews.
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So, the speed for this tested 2009 bows is with 60#, 7" to 7,5" bh and 29" dl 296 up to 316 fps.

Nothing we haven't had in the last years.

Now, I wait for the speed bow tests, for example, the Monster from Mathews.
Unfortunately, there has only been a few entries into the speed bow category so far this year.

Any other suggested entries besides the Monster?
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Unfortunately, there has only been a few entries into the speed bow category so far this year.

Any other suggested entries besides the Monster?
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unfortunately, there has only been a few entries into the speed bow category so far this year.

Any other suggested entries besides the monster?
i think the pse omen would be a definite addition to this test.
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How about a review on the 2009 Alpine Sabre
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I know you can only do so much, but how about a review on the new MOAB with the ccs and the new M2Pro cam?
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You deff. need a Pearson in the review with the new R2B2 cams. Thanks Badbow
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How about some target bows from PSE Hoyt Mathews

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would like to see how the 09 line of dartons test, and maybe some kind of side by side chart for comparison
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how about a test of mid-priced and entry level bows.not all of us can spend big $$$ on the top of the line flagship bows.
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I am interested in seeing the r2b2 Pearson bows (either the tx-4 or z-34 tested) and a comparison chart would be cool.
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bow test

Why not test the Limb Saver bow?
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I'd love to, but haven't received any response from Limb Saver.
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I am interested in seeing the r2b2 Pearson bows (either the tx-4 or z-34 tested) ...
Me too. I know Pearson is in a transition phase at this point but I have been unsuccessful in my attempts to reach them.

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couple of bows.

how about darton the 3500 is one fast bow and shoots smooth and what about forge bows they have a new one out that shoots 330 and has 8 inch brace height thank you
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my opinion ???

well anthony i feel a couple mathews bows should be included. especially if you do the pse bow madness,,,a reezin comparison should also be done.

if you do a monster review,,,then a pse x-force or pse omen should be done...i know the omen is a later addition,,,,but actually its only a month or two away.

and as always,,,thank you for your dilligence....
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Do you know how to get in touch with them?
I guess you are referring to Pearson; if so I have always been able to reach them through their customer service number on their website. I have spoken to the people there. All have been tremendously helpful. You might also some luck contact some people through the Ben Pearson forum.
If you haven'y checked out the website... www.shootlikeben.com

I also second the Forge bow. I would be curious to see performance numbers on the Ventaliator... the 330/ 8.5" brace height bow.

Also curious about the Athens bow: Accomplice. Just my .03$
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Last two...I know you did the binary quest; I would be interested in the single cam HPS 33, this bow has a faster IBO. Have you contacted the New Breed Archery guys...if that was said already sorry.
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Sent a PM to fastpassthrough, but haven't heard anything back. I know they are busy trying to fill orders, though.
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yeah i saw it and actually between it and the alpha,,,,they to me were the tops.that bow madness rips for a single cam.
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well anthony i feel a couple mathews bows should be included. especially if you do the pse bow madness,,,a reezin comparison should also be done.

if you do a monster review,,,then a pse x-force or pse omen should be done...i know the omen is a later addition,,,,but actually its only a month or two away.

and as always,,,thank you for your dilligence....
If you are going to compare these then it makes sense to shoot all of the 'speed' bows. The Darton Pro 3500 is a super fast smooth shootin' bow as is the Elite. the Bowtech bows also compare well with the PSE and Mathews. I would also shoot the Gander Mountain Tech Hunter Pro. If you are looking for a hunting bow that particular GM bow is smooth and fast and quiet.
I have a Darton Pro 3500 and a Gander Mountain Tech Hunter Pro 3500. Here is a thread that chronicals my initial speed testing of the Pro 3500, http://www.archerytalk.com/vb/showthread.php?t=894812.
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If you are going to compare these then it makes sense to shoot all of the 'speed' bows. The Darton Pro 3500 is a super fast smooth shootin' bow as is the Elite. the Bowtech bows also compare well with the PSE and Mathews. I would also shoot the Gander Mountain Tech Hunter Pro. If you are looking for a hunting bow that particular GM bow is smooth and fast and quiet.
I have a Darton Pro 3500 and a Gander Mountain Tech Hunter Pro 3500. Here is a thread that chronicals my initial speed testing of the Pro 3500, http://www.archerytalk.com/vb/showthread.php?t=894812.
Many of the new bows are just (named) brand extentions. Gander mountain is Bowtech, Quest is Elite and the list goes on. So testing the same bow with a new name is a none starter.

A speed bow list would be informative as everyone is into FPS not shot placement. A better question or test might be using the Carbon Revolution arrows with .320 spines and 5+ grn/inch on bows other than High Country which is the only maker that does not void the warranty for shooting less than 5 grains per pound. Barnsdale makes High Countries limbs, are they that much better than Mathews, PSE, Bowtech, Elite, Hoyt and the rest?
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You guys do a great evaluation. I want to see the Bowtech Air Raid and the Rytera Alien in there for sure.
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If you are going to compare these then it makes sense to shoot all of the 'speed' bows. The Darton Pro 3500 is a super fast smooth shootin' bow as is the Elite. the Bowtech bows also compare well with the PSE and Mathews. I would also shoot the Gander Mountain Tech Hunter Pro. If you are looking for a hunting bow that particular GM bow is smooth and fast and quiet.
I have a Darton Pro 3500 and a Gander Mountain Tech Hunter Pro 3500. Here is a thread that chronicals my initial speed testing of the Pro 3500, http://www.archerytalk.com/vb/showthread.php?t=894812.
there can be no denying the worth of a darton,,,especially a 3500. i am not personally crazy about the grip on it,,,but my brother owns one and i shot it and like it alot. i actually considered buying one.

darton has alot of tecnology they farm out and i do think bowtech has some of it too. the question is more then anything else,,,,popularity,,,popularity as in sales. darton,,,elite,and alot of other bows are excellent bows,,,but they pale in comparison to a mathews,hoyt,and then pse,,,and in the last 5 years,bowtech/oregon bows.

i think when you compare bows,,,you have to keep in mind that the popular bows always have those "prideful" price tags. simply look at the price of a upper end pse of mathews,,,,part near a G-note for bow alone....thats alot of $$$$ too much...darton being in the $600 range,,,is a BARGAIN !!! same with martin. alot of bow for alot less $$$$.

what i am getting at is to open up these high dollar bows,,,expose them for what they are and do. in one category. then in another category,,,do a list of bows like the darton,elite,high country,pearson,martin. bows that are popular,,,yet dont sell the number of a mathews,hoyt,pse or bowtech,,,YET.

remember bowtech was alsos looking up a few years back before they really exploded into a admirable company business wise. all done on sales and marketing.

comparing a bow that sells for $1000 with a bow that sells for $500 DIRECTLY doesn't make sense. bows to me are like "model segments" in automobiles. compare them into segments,then determine what works best for you,,,as is done with cars...

thats my opinion anyways. you'll be clearly able to see if we are overpaying for those $1000 bows versus the $500-$600 bows...which i might think we are,,,but hasn't stopped me from partaking...lol...
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The Gander Mountain is made by Bowtech, like most of the Bass Pro Redheads are made by Bowtech, Hoyt, Parker. The price value line is out there in the market. But just like cars, if it gores fast, operates smooth and quiet it cost more money.:dar kbeer:
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