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    Thumbs up New Breed Archery- Genetix review

    New Breed Archery- "Southpaw" Genetix
    After owning several bows that Richard has either made, designed, or assisted in the research of; I knew the NBA line would be something I might be interested in. Being a "Southpaw" I was all too excited when NBA mentioned LH bows would be cut at the same time as the 2010 RH models...how cool is that.
    A new company that isn’t afraid of making left hand models.
    So, I figured "what the heck"; I need to try em out.
    So after many, many questions which were answered by Kyle very quickly and professionally, "I went for it"......


    I came home early from work just for wait for “Brown” to show up……seemed like and eternity but, finally I met him on the sidewalk as I seen him come up the street.




    Outta the box it came and upon first grab, I noticed how light it felt….NICE, not heavy at all. Off with the bubble wrap and a quick snip of the warranty card from the cables and I was feeling and fondling it all over…Nice smooth lines, the black anodized finish looks pretty durable and the strings were way better than pictures posted online….


    I really like the color combo up close the purple seemed to be darker and in fact have changed my mind on going with other colors.
    The limb decals in my opinion, are some of the sharpest looking I have ever seen on a bow...I thought the first versions were nice but, man these look great on the Next Vista camo limbs.
    There are some tiny air bubbles forming small white spots in the camo on a few places, nothing too serious and I have actually reviewed 3 other bow companies in the past that had the same issues with the slight imperfections in the hydro-print process... The pattern is actually a lot nice than in the pics as well. Kind of like APG or Hardwoods but a lil more brown and tan colored or "Woodsy” for lack of better term.
    Now, it was off to my “toy room” for the initial set-up; Hostage arrow rest, short stabilizer just to really hold my wrist sling in place and a Dloop. This combo I have used in all of my bows when first taken outta the box just to get a feel for the rig, compare the draw curve, and see some "out of the box" speeds.
    On the first shot of a 350 grain GoldTip fletched arrow, I thought WOW..that seemed too light in the draw to be 70 pounds….looking thru the chrony I hit 310 FPS…Nice and that is at 28.5” draw.
    The draw curve is one of the smoothest I have shot for a speed bow. NO JOKE, I could not believe how nice the curve felt. No bumps, not a real hump. It rates better for me than my “Crackerized” Tribute with smooth mods and shot 5 FPS faster outta the box. OK, OK maybe a fluke in the speed reading I was thinking so, I slung a few more arrows…..310, 310, 309, 310, 310.
    Back up stairs to get my scale out and really see what the bow is drawing at. I loaded up my dumbbells on my neighbors postal scale and made sure all my weights were exact as my two spring scales are usually a lil off and I want to calibrate to the exact poundage and the Genetix came in right at 70 pounds on the dot for draw weight. I grabbed my 70.5 lbs. Cardiac just to double measure and I still could not believe how smooth the draw was compared to even my Cardiac.
    Once I got the G5 peep installed I threw on a BowJax Cable Dampener and went back to the chrony while I still had daylight; 307 FPS (6X) and 308 FPS (twice) thru the chrony.....I am happy. No special tuning, outta the box with a peep and loop, not bad at all.
    In comparision to other bows I owned-
    My 82nd Airborne at 71 pounds and the exact arrow and rest shot 326 FPS.
    My 07 “Crackerized” Tribute shot 302 with smooth and 311 FPS with speed mods.
    My 07 Synergy shot 307 FPS outta the box.
    I believe this bow feels just as good as my Tribute, which to me was one of Bowtech’s best model yet smoother in the draw and only a few more inches axle to axle. The bow seems to balance in the hands great. I have not put a longer stabilizer on it and when I added the Posten QD on it near the riser it seems to hold perfectly for me at full draw and release……
    I am liking it and just might have found the bow to put the Cardiac outta business this year.
    New Breed Genetix- 60lbs. / 28.5" = 370 grains @ 282 FPS
    New Breed Eclipse- 65lbs. / 28.5" = 370 grains @ 291 FPS

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    Can you compare the noise to some of your other bows?

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    nice review.can't wait to hear more about how it shoots.

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    Glad you got it. Welcome to the New Breed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nontypical View Post
    Can you compare the noise to some of your other bows?
    Right now, not really cause I am shooting in a room at close distances and all I am really hearing is the arrows pounding the target.
    It does seem very quiet so far though and the Rattler makes it pretty dead in the hands. I didn't even have to adjust it.
    I am not sure I like the rubber grips and am thinking of getting wood sideplates for it but, I have not felt any hand shock yet.

    I keep running out to my garage and slinging a few at 10 yards every chance I get....it sure feels good.
    New Breed Genetix- 60lbs. / 28.5" = 370 grains @ 282 FPS
    New Breed Eclipse- 65lbs. / 28.5" = 370 grains @ 291 FPS

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    I have 2 1/2 weeks before I get mine, waiting on 50# limbs. After reading your review, I hate waiting even more.
    Thanks for sharing.
    Michael

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    I just threw it on the scale as pictured and it came out to a 4.95 lbs. mass wt.
    Not bad....
    Now, I just gotta figure out a Quiver to get for it.
    New Breed Genetix- 60lbs. / 28.5" = 370 grains @ 282 FPS
    New Breed Eclipse- 65lbs. / 28.5" = 370 grains @ 291 FPS

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    I was surprised with how many New Breeds I saw at the Kentucky ASA. I was very impressed with the bows.
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    Thanks for a very good and honest review on the bow. Badbow

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    Welcome to the Clan!!!

    Glad it is performing!! I knew you would love it!
    Thanks for the nice comments
    Welcome to the NEW BREED Clan!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by outbackarcher View Post
    I was surprised with how many New Breeds I saw at the Kentucky ASA. I was very impressed with the bows.
    Yes, I heard they had a strong showing and got a bit of attention.........
    New Breed Genetix- 60lbs. / 28.5" = 370 grains @ 282 FPS
    New Breed Eclipse- 65lbs. / 28.5" = 370 grains @ 291 FPS

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    Genetix

    How does the valley and back wall feel? Does it have a lot of valley in the draw, or does it want to launch if you relaxe just a little bit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Out West View Post
    How does the valley and back wall feel? Does it have a lot of valley in the draw, or does it want to launch if you relaxe just a little bit?
    The wall to me is ROCK solid...very hard wall.
    There is a lil valley, not alot but it didn't launch forward on me at all when I was letting down or playing with it to get a real feel of the draw force curve.
    The Bowtech speeds mods for me seemed like a shirter valley and the Smooth mods seemed to open it a lil bit. I would say it is right in between the two types of mods and you do not hold the full draw wt. as long as you do with a Elite Synergy.
    But again this is straight outta the box. I have no doubt with a lil tuning I can get 4-8 more FPS outta it easy and probably even open the valley even a lil more.
    New Breed Genetix- 60lbs. / 28.5" = 370 grains @ 282 FPS
    New Breed Eclipse- 65lbs. / 28.5" = 370 grains @ 291 FPS

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    Thanks for the review! Sounds like a very nice bow especially when your putting it up against some pretty stiff competition with the other bows you mentioned.


    Quote Originally Posted by mdewitt71 View Post
    New Breed Archery- "Southpaw" Genetix
    After owning several bows that Richard has either made, designed, or assisted in the research of; I knew the NBA line would be something I might be interested in. Being a "Southpaw" I was all too excited when NBA mentioned LH bows would be cut at the same time as the 2010 RH models...how cool is that.
    A new company that isn’t afraid of making left hand models.
    So, I figured "what the heck"; I need to try em out.
    So after many, many questions which were answered by Kyle very quickly and professionally, "I went for it"......


    I came home early from work just for wait for “Brown” to show up……seemed like and eternity but, finally I met him on the sidewalk as I seen him come up the street.


    Outta the box it came and upon first grab, I noticed how light it felt….NICE, not heavy at all. Off with the bubble wrap and a quick snip of the warranty card from the cables and I was feeling and fondling it all over…Nice smooth lines, the black anodized finish looks pretty durable and the strings were way better than pictures posted online….


    I really like the color combo up close the purple seemed to be darker and in fact have changed my mind on going with other colors.
    The limb decals in my opinion, are some of the sharpest looking I have ever seen on a bow...I thought the first versions were nice but, man these look great on the Next Vista camo limbs.
    There are some tiny air bubbles forming small white spots in the camo on a few places, nothing too serious and I have actually reviewed 3 other bow companies in the past that had the same issues with the slight imperfections in the hydro-print process... The pattern is actually a lot nice than in the pics as well. Kind of like APG or Hardwoods but a lil more brown and tan colored or "Woodsy” for lack of better term.
    Now, it was off to my “toy room” for the initial set-up; Hostage arrow rest, short stabilizer just to really hold my wrist sling in place and a Dloop. This combo I have used in all of my bows when first taken outta the box just to get a feel for the rig, compare the draw curve, and see some "out of the box" speeds.
    On the first shot of a 350 grain GoldTip fletched arrow, I thought WOW..that seemed too light in the draw to be 70 pounds….looking thru the chrony I hit 310 FPS…Nice and that is at 28.5” draw.
    The draw curve is one of the smoothest I have shot for a speed bow. NO JOKE, I could not believe how nice the curve felt. No bumps, not a real hump. It rates better for me than my “Crackerized” Tribute with smooth mods and shot 5 FPS faster outta the box. OK, OK maybe a fluke in the speed reading I was thinking so, I slung a few more arrows…..310, 310, 309, 310, 310.
    Back up stairs to get my scale out and really see what the bow is drawing at. I loaded up my dumbbells on my neighbors postal scale and made sure all my weights were exact as my two spring scales are usually a lil off and I want to calibrate to the exact poundage and the Genetix came in right at 70 pounds on the dot for draw weight. I grabbed my 70.5 lbs. Cardiac just to double measure and I still could not believe how smooth the draw was compared to even my Cardiac.
    Once I got the G5 peep installed I threw on a BowJax Cable Dampener and went back to the chrony while I still had daylight; 307 FPS (6X) and 308 FPS (twice) thru the chrony.....I am happy. No special tuning, outta the box with a peep and loop, not bad at all.
    In comparision to other bows I owned-
    My 82nd Airborne at 71 pounds and the exact arrow and rest shot 326 FPS.
    My 07 “Crackerized” Tribute shot 302 with smooth and 311 FPS with speed mods.
    My 07 Synergy shot 307 FPS outta the box.
    I believe this bow feels just as good as my Tribute, which to me was one of Bowtech’s best model yet smoother in the draw and only a few more inches axle to axle. The bow seems to balance in the hands great. I have not put a longer stabilizer on it and when I added the Posten QD on it near the riser it seems to hold perfectly for me at full draw and release……
    I am liking it and just might have found the bow to put the Cardiac outta business this year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Out West View Post
    How does the valley and back wall feel? Does it have a lot of valley in the draw, or does it want to launch if you relaxe just a little bit?
    You can adjust for a shorter or longer valley by moving the draw stop just a bit.
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    Great looking bow Mike! Great review too! As a former owner of two Cardiacs and a Tribute I understand about the stiff competition. Looks like New Breed has a winner
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    Very nice review, one of my friends just picked up N.B.A for his shop, I can't wait til he gets some in so I can see em in person.
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    Update......

    Came home from lunch and replaced the Hostage Pro with a RipCord rest and got it all served in and tuned up a bit more........

    28.5"/ 70lbs. (Peep, Dloop)
    350 grain Goldtip 5575s w/ Blazers @ 315 FPS
    384 grain Sattellite 2980s w/ FOBs @ 302 FPS.

    New Breed Genetix- 60lbs. / 28.5" = 370 grains @ 282 FPS
    New Breed Eclipse- 65lbs. / 28.5" = 370 grains @ 291 FPS

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    Quote Originally Posted by mdewitt71 View Post
    Came home from lunch and replaced the Hostage Pro with a RipCord rest and got it all served in and tuned up a bit more........

    28.5"/ 70lbs. (Peep, Dloop)
    350 grain Goldtip 5575s w/ Blazers @ 315 FPS
    384 grain Sattellite 2980s w/ FOBs @ 302 FPS.

    Glad you like it, Great speeds! now how does the draw feel or measure for 28.5 long short?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fastpassthrough View Post
    Glad you like it, Great speeds! now how does the draw feel or measure for 28.5 long short?
    It does feel a lil bit long; maybe 1/8-1/4" but, that is it....I could be wrong though.
    The ATA is a lil short of the 33.5 mark (33 3/8") right now so, maybe that is what is throwing it off a lil.

    I still got a lil tinkering with it to do but, I did get some really nice bullet holes outta it when I paper tuned it.
    New Breed Genetix- 60lbs. / 28.5" = 370 grains @ 282 FPS
    New Breed Eclipse- 65lbs. / 28.5" = 370 grains @ 291 FPS

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    Congrats awesome bow!

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    I have to "rave up" this ArmorTech sight too.
    So nice, just a few clicks of the knobs and you get dialed into the spot perfectly.
    The pins are nice and bright and the fit and finish is really sweet.
    I am glad I broke down and spent the $$$ for it, it's a nice sight.
    New Breed Genetix- 60lbs. / 28.5" = 370 grains @ 282 FPS
    New Breed Eclipse- 65lbs. / 28.5" = 370 grains @ 291 FPS

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    Update number 2......



    Got some nice wood sideplate from Mr. Lambeth...really like the feel of wood better and found the Posten looked and felt pretty good on it as well.



    A lil more "tinkering" and I think I will have her all dialed it.
    New Breed Genetix- 60lbs. / 28.5" = 370 grains @ 282 FPS
    New Breed Eclipse- 65lbs. / 28.5" = 370 grains @ 291 FPS

    Custom-Arrows. com , Carters Archery- "Get Crackerized" , Starrflight FOBs- "Fletchings Only Better"

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    Quote Originally Posted by mdewitt71 View Post
    Update number 2......



    Got some nice wood sideplate from Mr. Lambeth...really like the feel of wood better and found the Posten looked and felt pretty good on it as well.



    A lil more "tinkering" and I think I will have her all dialed it.
    wow very nice set up ! whose sling is that?
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    It was actually a used one I got off here real cheap.....
    I have "Slingbraids" on all my other bows but, this one was just a recent find for a few dollars.
    New Breed Genetix- 60lbs. / 28.5" = 370 grains @ 282 FPS
    New Breed Eclipse- 65lbs. / 28.5" = 370 grains @ 291 FPS

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