Black panther in TN!!

[cmalone1]

Has anybody seen a black panther in tn? I seen one and called twra but they pretty much laughed at me...and said if i have a picture of it to take it strait to the office...but they said there is no documented cases of a black panther in TN!!

So let's see if i'm not crazy!!

[cropdustersteve]

Seen 'em a couple of times in south Arkansas. Game and Fish say they don't exist though.

[Fldeerslayer]

There was a monsterquest show about this. There are tons of people report seeing them but the "Experts" say they don't exist.

[MKNOX]

So far there has never been a documented case of a (hypermelanistic) black mountain lion EVER!!! The only large cats ever recorded with this color phase are Jaguars and Leapords and I am pretty sure they are not native to Tennessee.

[athomPT]

Been 3-4 sightings in my area, one on trail cam after a family k9 nearly lost a leg. Area of sighting was about 10 miles, so it could possibly be the same one, but not likely. NCwildlife said "shoot it" and if it is brown, don't call him. If it's black call him.

[Big Country]

Originally Posted by Fldeerslayer

There was a monsterquest show about this. There are tons of people report seeing them but the "Experts" say they don't exist.

Yep, tons of sightings, but every sighting that comes with a picture or video is proven to be a misidentification.

Mountain lions/panthers/cougars simply do not come in black. They do not possess the gene necessary for hypermelanoma.

Jaguars have a 6% chance of being black, but the black ones are localized, and the farthest north documentation has been in the amazon region of central south america.

the only black cats in the USA that are not escaped exotic critters are called house cats.

[brodie1978]

It's fiction

[deerhuntinfool]

Originally Posted by brodie1978

It's fiction

i see one once or twice a year.... nah i'm lying.... all BS.

[Big Country]

Originally Posted by deerhuntinfool

i see one once or twice a year.... nah i'm lying.... all BS.

I have no doubt that you are seeing something that you "think" is a black mountain lion.

I also have no doubt that you are NOT seeing a black mountain lion.

It is not possible....they cannot be black.

[Cornfed]

LOL! That's the funniest thing about all these "reports"...... no one ever says they seen a Mtn Lion, no, no, they always see a BLACK panther! LOL! I think it's a case of to much beer for to many hillbillies!

[I like Meat]

You sure they were not hanging out around a polling/voting booth ?? There were some seen around those last year....... .....

[deerhuntinfool]

Originally Posted by Big Country

I have no doubt that you are seeing something that you "think" is a black mountain lion.

I also have no doubt that you are NOT seeing a black mountain lion.

It is not possible....they cannot be black.

ha sarcasm buddy, sarcasm. THERE ARE NO BLACK PANTHERS!

[mtmedic]

Originally Posted by Big Country

Yep, tons of sightings, but every sighting that comes with a picture or video is proven to be a misidentification.

Mountain lions/panthers/cougars simply do not come in black. They do not possess the gene necessary for hypermelanoma.

Jaguars have a 6% chance of being black, but the black ones are localized, and the farthest north documentation has been in the amazon region of central south america.

the only black cats in the USA that are not escaped exotic critters are called house cats.

Jaquars have been seen in Arizona and Mexico over the last few years. Here is one of the most recent articles:

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...r-picture.html

[QuickReflex]

Originally Posted by Big Country

I have no doubt that you are seeing something that you "think" is a black mountain lion.

I also have no doubt that you are NOT seeing a black mountain lion.

It is not possible....they cannot be black.

And you know this because ..............?????????

Some so called TV expert says no way so you take it for that, I dont belive that for a minute there has been way to many sightings & photos that say otherwise.

on that monsterquest show the one walking along the ditch bank was clearly larger than a house cat, but thats what the so called expert dismissed it as.
Expert my A#$. Show me proof they cant be that color,for all I know they could be pink.

[Big Country]

Originally Posted by mtmedic

Jaquars have been seen in Arizona and Mexico over the last few years. Here is one of the most recent articles:

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...r-picture.html

Agreed, there have been many sightings, and even several video documentations. But NOT of any black jaguars. The farthest north sighting of a black Jaguar has been in the central basin of south America.

[Big Country]

Originally Posted by QuickReflex

And you know this because ..............?????????

Some so called TV expert says no way so you take it for that, I dont belive that for a minute there has been way to many sightings & photos that say otherwise.

on that monsterquest show the one walking along the ditch bank was clearly larger than a house cat, but thats what the so called expert dismissed it as.
Expert my A#$. Show me proof they cant be that color,for all I know they could be pink.

It is simple genetics.....proven by DNA.

I know this because I read, and I pay attention to the details, the facts.

I have been listening to BS from all kinds of folks about all kinds of subjects for nearly 50 years now, and even a dummy like me can get fairly good at sifting the wheat from the fly scat in that amount of time.

[deerhuntinfool]

i did see one in Mississippi though....

[b_vanfossen]

Originally Posted by mtmedic

Jaquars have been seen in Arizona and Mexico over the last few years. Here is one of the most recent articles:

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...r-picture.html

that is pretty cool. "Jaguars, once common throughout the southern United States, were mostly killed off in the country by the early 1900s"

Last year we had a seal visit us from the Artic Circle animals do travel! they can also breed with local animals which equals hybrids.

[Doc]

I'm pretty certain there are quite a few black panthers in TN documented since 1969.
Here is the source---->CLICK

[The Swami]

Maybe they are just black bobcats. I know how you flatlanders like to mix them up.

[Flatfoot]

Here's one to look at
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhUE58vV2Ws

[b_vanfossen]

Originally Posted by Flatfoot

Here's one to look at
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhUE58vV2Ws

that's a good sized cat with a long tail...

[QuickReflex]

Originally Posted by Flatfoot

Here's one to look at
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhUE58vV2Ws

I guess that rather large Black cat didnt get his DNA tested.

Some people will belive anything you write in a book or put on TV, we call these Shepple just lead them nose to tail & belive what we say and everything will be ok. Sorry I dont walk that line.

[stilwell#1]

i believe you! my family lives on a farm in greenville tn an my grandpa has seen one twice and his friend that lives across the road seen one also... and they arent to far away from johnson city

[letemgrow]

Originally Posted by MKNOX

So far there has never been a documented case of a (hypermelanistic) black mountain lion EVER!!! The only large cats ever recorded with this color phase are Jaguars and Leapords and I am pretty sure they are not native to Tennessee.

Exactly...so if anyone is seeing a "black panther" they are seeing a jaguar.

[letemgrow]

Originally Posted by Flatfoot

Here's one to look at
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhUE58vV2Ws

How in the H#$# could anyone think that's a black panther??? Unless it is a midget panther that's a black house cat. Look how much bigger the buck is that walks out in front of where that "panther" crossed at.

[letemgrow]

This is usually what happens if someone shoots at the "black panther"

"my uncle said he saw a panther after about 30 minutes they make a 400 yard shot to find out it was a 36 pound house cat "

[fishfurlife]

Originally Posted by cmalone1

Has anybody seen a black panther in tn? I seen one and called twra but they pretty much laughed at me...and said if i have a picture of it to take it strait to the office...but they said there is no documented cases of a black panther in TN!!

So let's see if i'm not crazy!!

If you only knew how many black panther calls I have fielded throughout my days you would understand a little bit more as to why they might chuckle. I know it isn't very professional but it is somewhat of a running joke in this career.

[jeb0217]

say what you want to say - i saw one a few years back less than 50 yards while blackpower hunting. No doubt in my mind they exist.

[b_vanfossen]

Originally Posted by letemgrow

How in the H#$# could anyone think that's a black panther??? Unless it is a midget panther that's a black house cat. Look how much bigger the buck is that walks out in front of where that "panther" crossed at.

watch the video again- the cat crosses further away on the path. also compare it to the brush and sapling...

[Bowhuntr64]

They are real! My great grandfather's uncle's brother's next door neighbor saw one chasing Bigfoot and another one that was running away from Nessie!

[b_vanfossen]

Originally Posted by Bowhuntr64

They are real! My great grandfather's uncle's brother's next door neighbor saw one chasing Bigfoot and another one that was running away from Nessie!

OH SURE- now they're going to say Bigfoot DNA doesn't exist! when will it end

[VanillaKilla]

I saw a Black Panther across the street from my house he was yelling something about cracker honky!!! LOL

[gatider]

My dad saw a black cat in a tree fishing on the Sabine river once. The Sabine runs the LA, Tx border. He said he was floating down the river and saw it up in the tree. So yes, I believe you. It is just like Mt. Lions. You talk to folks around and they sware they don't exist but I have talked to too many hunters in states from Tx to Ga who have seen them. They are out there just nocturnal so it is VERY rare to see one.

[FLINT HEAD]

We have sightings all the time in S.C. I've never seen one but my wife has, and she could care less if anyone believes her or not. It's kind of funny to me that about five years ago, out of no where, the S.C. rules and reg book says that you can't hunt or kill a Cougar????????? Seems odd that they would add that line for no reason. Until I see one I'll remain skeptical... but I won't say it's impossible.

[cmalone1]

Anybody wanna see the picture i have of it? it's on a gamecamera that i put out...and imo if the thing comes within shooting distance of me wheter is with a gun or bow the thing is getting shot at!!

[Bowhuntr64]

Originally Posted by cmalone1

Anybody wanna see the picture i have of it? it's on a gamecamera that i put out...and imo if the thing comes within shooting distance of me wheter is with a gun or bow the thing is getting shot at!!

Yes...I want to see the pic. All it would take is one carcass or clear cut pic to silence all of us skeptics.

[cmalone1]

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Heres the pictures guys...i checked it today and had the photo on there!!

Look at the time stamps on the bottom and you can see i have it set at 3 minute intervals

[oktx]

It's a black and white pic. Anything dark will show up black. Maybe a mountain lion but not a black one.

[cmalone1]

Originally Posted by oktx

It's a black and white pic. Anything dark will show up black. Maybe a mountain lion but not a black one.

but look at the deer in the first picture...if i'm right all the deer i have ever seen are brown...mt lions that i have ever seen are brown...soooo...????