As mentioned in a post that these broad heads are going to be given out for a test.
I can not blame the company for not sending them to Canada to try as the shipping
is just too expensive.
Do an internet search for "Cheap Shot Broadheads by Cold Steel" where there is a
6.20 minute video where they do a lot of testing. The one thing they mention is
shooting through gage steel. This steel is the same thickness that plumbers use
for making the plenum for a natural gas furnace. It is heavy tin. If you look at your
furnace, this is the section coming off the top of it. Now the rectangle sections going
across your basement (duct work) is lighter still.
I purchased two packages of the 100 grain shortly after they were available. Importing
into Canada, sometimes for a few dollars more, I can have two items with slight increase
in postage as compared to making two separate purchases and paying full postage on each.
Testing: first I shot an arrow with a 100 grain field point using my Barnett Ghost 410 mounted
in a good quality rifle jig equipped with levels on both the jig and the cross bow. No cant or
torquing this way. I then used the same arrow equipped with the 100 grain cheap shot. In my
shop shooting due to winter months at the time the shot was 17 1/2 feet. The target was sitting
on a vehicle rim to give a bit more height for the target. The shot went a bit low, through the
target, hitting the rim and breaking the arrow head in three pieces. Okay, my fault here. I then
shot higher with a new replacement arrow head. Even at this closer distance the arrow head
did not hit the same point of impact as the field point. Still no problem, just adjust the scope
as one has to do with many different broad head brands.
Now comes your major problem. The back of the arrow head slopes back ward and trying to
remove the arrow from the target is like removing a barbed hook from a fish. A lot of damage is
done to the target. My target was a Field Logic Block which is supposed to be good for field
point, broad head and expandables. Wrong here. The outer 1 1/2" of the target is a very poor
quality foam which cuts up easy with any broad head. Shoot the cheap shot into it, the centre
will stop the arrow but trying to remove it totally tears up the outer foam on this target and for
any other broad head target, it will be extremely difficult to remove. Re shooting the same arrow
at the same spot, the arrow hit identical.
A couple months later after the snow had gone, I set up at 30 yards. The arrow shot low and to the
left with the head sticking out the back. I just unscrewed the head and removed the arrow shaft.
Before making a scope adjustment, I shot the same arrow-point combination at the spot I originally
had aimed for. This arrow hit the same hole as the first, going fully through the target. Looking for
the arrow I found it sticking at an angle in two inch of sod before hitting the frozen ground below.
Being careful to remove the arrow and maintain the same angle, the arrow shaft came out easily,
but with no head. I carefully dug the arrow head out. The side hitting the frozen ground, all the
teeth were gone. No screw in section on the arrow head. Checking the arrow shaft, the thread
section was in the insert. This part had broken off at the very front of the thread section which
meant this part was recessed in the insert. Taking this arrow shaft home, I got a small flat jewelers
screw driver and kept wiggling it around and finally got the broken part out. The jar when the arrow
hit the frozen sod loosened the screw section a bit enabling me to remove it.
If I had not been able to remove it, good by to a carbon arrow. Aluminum on the other hand, I would
have heated the insert area and removed the insert.
Polymyer is a vary hard plastic and maybe just too hard (brittle) for an arrow head application. There
is no re sharpening this style arrow head. The saw teeth face forward, cutting like a hack saw.
My Barnett Ghost 410 with a 400 grain arrow-point combination has shot 422 to 424 feet per second.
I have since removed a 1/2 or full twist from the cables to decrease the cam advance slightly. This
crossbow is now shooting 417 to 419 feet per second.
Personally I will not use these arrow heads for hunting. There is less chance of the arrow falling out
but there could be severe suffering to the animal if the arrow head hit a heavy bone and either broke
or deflected.
For those doing these tests, have fun, but watch out target.
All the best.
I can not blame the company for not sending them to Canada to try as the shipping
is just too expensive.
Do an internet search for "Cheap Shot Broadheads by Cold Steel" where there is a
6.20 minute video where they do a lot of testing. The one thing they mention is
shooting through gage steel. This steel is the same thickness that plumbers use
for making the plenum for a natural gas furnace. It is heavy tin. If you look at your
furnace, this is the section coming off the top of it. Now the rectangle sections going
across your basement (duct work) is lighter still.
I purchased two packages of the 100 grain shortly after they were available. Importing
into Canada, sometimes for a few dollars more, I can have two items with slight increase
in postage as compared to making two separate purchases and paying full postage on each.
Testing: first I shot an arrow with a 100 grain field point using my Barnett Ghost 410 mounted
in a good quality rifle jig equipped with levels on both the jig and the cross bow. No cant or
torquing this way. I then used the same arrow equipped with the 100 grain cheap shot. In my
shop shooting due to winter months at the time the shot was 17 1/2 feet. The target was sitting
on a vehicle rim to give a bit more height for the target. The shot went a bit low, through the
target, hitting the rim and breaking the arrow head in three pieces. Okay, my fault here. I then
shot higher with a new replacement arrow head. Even at this closer distance the arrow head
did not hit the same point of impact as the field point. Still no problem, just adjust the scope
as one has to do with many different broad head brands.
Now comes your major problem. The back of the arrow head slopes back ward and trying to
remove the arrow from the target is like removing a barbed hook from a fish. A lot of damage is
done to the target. My target was a Field Logic Block which is supposed to be good for field
point, broad head and expandables. Wrong here. The outer 1 1/2" of the target is a very poor
quality foam which cuts up easy with any broad head. Shoot the cheap shot into it, the centre
will stop the arrow but trying to remove it totally tears up the outer foam on this target and for
any other broad head target, it will be extremely difficult to remove. Re shooting the same arrow
at the same spot, the arrow hit identical.
A couple months later after the snow had gone, I set up at 30 yards. The arrow shot low and to the
left with the head sticking out the back. I just unscrewed the head and removed the arrow shaft.
Before making a scope adjustment, I shot the same arrow-point combination at the spot I originally
had aimed for. This arrow hit the same hole as the first, going fully through the target. Looking for
the arrow I found it sticking at an angle in two inch of sod before hitting the frozen ground below.
Being careful to remove the arrow and maintain the same angle, the arrow shaft came out easily,
but with no head. I carefully dug the arrow head out. The side hitting the frozen ground, all the
teeth were gone. No screw in section on the arrow head. Checking the arrow shaft, the thread
section was in the insert. This part had broken off at the very front of the thread section which
meant this part was recessed in the insert. Taking this arrow shaft home, I got a small flat jewelers
screw driver and kept wiggling it around and finally got the broken part out. The jar when the arrow
hit the frozen sod loosened the screw section a bit enabling me to remove it.
If I had not been able to remove it, good by to a carbon arrow. Aluminum on the other hand, I would
have heated the insert area and removed the insert.
Polymyer is a vary hard plastic and maybe just too hard (brittle) for an arrow head application. There
is no re sharpening this style arrow head. The saw teeth face forward, cutting like a hack saw.
My Barnett Ghost 410 with a 400 grain arrow-point combination has shot 422 to 424 feet per second.
I have since removed a 1/2 or full twist from the cables to decrease the cam advance slightly. This
crossbow is now shooting 417 to 419 feet per second.
Personally I will not use these arrow heads for hunting. There is less chance of the arrow falling out
but there could be severe suffering to the animal if the arrow head hit a heavy bone and either broke
or deflected.
For those doing these tests, have fun, but watch out target.
All the best.
