I picked up a STAN Shoot off 4 finger this year to try out. i find my self punching the trigger way more then I ever did with index release. currently back shooting index release. I want to use the thumb release but just can not be to accurate. am i missing something?
punching trigger with thumb release
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I picked up a STAN Shoot off 4 finger this year to try out. i find my self punching the trigger way more then I ever did with index release. currently back shooting index release. I want to use the thumb release but just can not be to accurate. am i missing something?
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Typically you would want to position the peg into the knuckle crease and use back tension to set it off to avoid punching it. You could also try getting set into the release and while using back tension/pulling through the shot relaxing your index finger causing the body to rotate around the middle finger and push the peg into your thumb to trigger.
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Look up professional bowhunter and archery instructor John Dudley on YouTube. He gives many lessons on how to properly shoot a thumb release and hundreds of other videos with tips to help beginners all the way to the most advanced archers.
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In my opinion, its less about the method of activating the release and more about the mental process of not anticipating the release ("punching" in itself isn't a problem). Of course, most people only focus on the physical process and total ignore the mental aspect.
With that in mind, you can't expect to magically fix punching issues by simply switching from index to thumb. They're both buttons.
With that in mind, you can't expect to magically fix punching issues by simply switching from index to thumb. They're both buttons.
Agreeing with all the mental aspects of transitioning from one release type to another, but, there is a difference between punching the button/trigger versus Command Shooting.
Tim Gillingham has a YouTube on Command shooting as that’s what he is and I as well. If you look at early Mike Schloesser YouTube at WA matches, he use to literally PUNCH the trigger which was at times disastrous. I never see him PUNCH any longer. He to now is a command shooter.
You can see many wrist release guys literally punch the trigger. So it’s easy to go to a button and bring that bad habit to it.
I can think of a few, but won’t mention their names. None are on any pro circuit. Just regular guys and a good sized shop owner. They punch because their brain screams, SHOOT!
Tim Gillingham has a YouTube on Command shooting as that’s what he is and I as well. If you look at early Mike Schloesser YouTube at WA matches, he use to literally PUNCH the trigger which was at times disastrous. I never see him PUNCH any longer. He to now is a command shooter.
You can see many wrist release guys literally punch the trigger. So it’s easy to go to a button and bring that bad habit to it.
I can think of a few, but won’t mention their names. None are on any pro circuit. Just regular guys and a good sized shop owner. They punch because their brain screams, SHOOT!
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Bury the thumb peg in the first bone of your thumb or joint between the base of your thumb and hand, then rock the release into your thumb. A bigger thumb knob may also help.
I bought a thumb trigger back around 2008 and shot it for about 3 days and then got back in my truck and took it back to bass pro and got my money back because it gave me the worst freaking target panic I have ever experienced. The issue was I had no idea what in the world I was doing and I was trying to just squeeze the trigger to fire it.
A few years later I became a hinge shooter and went through the process of learning the lessons of being a solid shooter and then I ran into that same little thumb trigger. I used the same lessons and within a week or so I was winning 3d tournaments with the little thumb trigger. Overall I have chosen to be a hinge shooter because I just enjoy it more than shooting a thumb trigger but that doesn't mean that I am not a solid shooter with a thumb triggers. Once you learn the lessons of execution you can choose to shoot any release and be proficient.
If you want me to help you through the process just pm me and we can get started, I have a full set of articles and we can do phone calls and get things going.
The key here is to learn how to execute the thumb trigger without actually pulling the trigger, I will be leading you into learning how to yield as your method of execution.
A few years later I became a hinge shooter and went through the process of learning the lessons of being a solid shooter and then I ran into that same little thumb trigger. I used the same lessons and within a week or so I was winning 3d tournaments with the little thumb trigger. Overall I have chosen to be a hinge shooter because I just enjoy it more than shooting a thumb trigger but that doesn't mean that I am not a solid shooter with a thumb triggers. Once you learn the lessons of execution you can choose to shoot any release and be proficient.
If you want me to help you through the process just pm me and we can get started, I have a full set of articles and we can do phone calls and get things going.
The key here is to learn how to execute the thumb trigger without actually pulling the trigger, I will be leading you into learning how to yield as your method of execution.
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Blank bailing is a good method for learning to not punch the trigger on a thumb release.
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Learn how to follow thru with your shot sequence, lessons maybe?
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Many people have found that their hold is not stable after switching releases. SOme of this is from a change in draw length and some from other factors such as stabilizers and or form problems. I feel that the best thing you can do to help punching is to have such a steady hold that you are not rushed to execute the shot. Blind baling may help some but close up shots at a very small target with deliberate commitment to not start your shot until you hold on target for 3 seconds is a good practice technique Try it.
This answer above is your solution.
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Buy a hinge and don’t worry about a trigger at all. That’s what I did a few years ago. If it’s not a hinge I won’t shoot it
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This here from Padgett is what you should pay attention to. This, and Blind Archer, above. You need to drop your Thumb release for a month or two or three and forget about it. Then, go back to it and shoot it ONLY by rocking the release into your thumb, and NEVER, NOT ONCE, by depressing your thumb. I took about six months off of mine, and went back to it with this new technique, and now I am loving shooting it. But again, you must never, ever, not once, shoot it by depressing your thumb!
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Agree!! I took up target archery last year after 30 years of just bowhunting. I always thought that I knew what I was doing while using my index finger release. I WAS WRONG! I spent quite a bit of time with a local target archer while he taught me to properly shoot a release (I was using a Stan Jet Black hinge). I had heard about and thought I used back tension, but I don't think I truly even knew what it was. Since then and after 10s of 1,000's of shots, I've learned that when you truly learn back tension and get your mind programmed to use it the type of release doesn't matter.
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