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I need to tweak my form and hone in on my correct draw length. This is for a compound bow used for hunting.

I can make several draw lengths hit the same anchor, even with my bow arm the same amount of straight, depending upon how the "triangle" formed by my shoulders/arms looks like from above (I can tweak things around). I have a feeling that perhaps I have been drawing too much into my body in the past. I think the angle my upper arm of my draw arms makes with my shoulder and forearm is critical here for me.

Any good pics of good form as viewed from many angles, but especially from above? My plan is to video myself at various angles for comparison with different form and draw lengths.

Thanks - R
 
I need to tweak my form and hone in on my correct draw length.

I can make several draw lengths hit the same anchor, even with my bow arm the same amount of straight, depending upon how the "triangle" formed by my shoulders/arms looks like from above (I can tweak things around). I have a feeling that perhaps I have been drawing too much into my body in the past. I think the angle my upper arm of my draw arms makes is critical here for me.

Any good pics of good form as viewed from many angles, but especially from above? My plan is to video myself at various angles for comparison with different form and draw lengths.

Thanks - R
Instead of looking at photos of OTHER people....try all kinds of angles for the "triangle" formed by your shoulders/arms (how they look from above),
and see which "triangle" shape, gives you the TIGHTEST groups. You are on the right track, but don't stop your analysis HALF way, and ignore the FINAL result....the group size. I don't care what your "triangle" looks like, cuz the "triangle size" that works for YOU, will be slightly different than the "triangle" size that works for another shooter.



Before and after for 2nd Nature. Major improvement for 2nd Nature. Technically, his right elbow is swinging a bit too much clockwise behind his head, but for a Before and the After, his After shooting is much improved.
 


For "stance", I am not talking your feet, not talking your ankles, and not even talking about what you are doing with your hip joints. Do whatever you want with the lower half of your body. Here, "stance" refers to the shoulder joints, the collar bones.
 
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Thanks for the pics and diagrams! Very helpful.

I recalled that recurve shooters were suggested to get into a "golden triangle" where the following were all pretty much in a straight line:

bow wrist, bow elbow, bow shoulder, and draw shoulder and that line all pointed at the bow grip

the other force line is string, draw wrist, and draw elbow

The angle of the upper draw arm is what makes these two lines of force work together.

Is that totally off base since I don't see anything like that in your diagrams? (actually closed stand is pretty close)
 
Thanks for the pics and diagrams! Very helpful.

I recalled that recurve shooters were suggested to get into a "golden triangle" where the following were all pretty much in a straight line:

bow wrist, bow elbow, bow shoulder, and draw shoulder and that line all pointed at the bow grip

the other force line is string, draw wrist, and draw elbow

The angle of the upper draw arm is what makes these two lines of force work together.

Is that totally off base since I don't see anything like that in your diagrams?
Recurve form, some coaches call it the Wedge.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pCejcb6DAI


Some call it "barrel of the gun"...(BOG).

 
Thanks for the pics and diagrams! Very helpful.

I recalled that recurve shooters were suggested to get into a "golden triangle" where the following were all pretty much in a straight line:

bow wrist, bow elbow, bow shoulder, and draw shoulder and that line all pointed at the bow grip

the other force line is string, draw wrist, and draw elbow

The angle of the upper draw arm is what makes these two lines of force work together.

Is that totally off base since I don't see anything like that in your diagrams? (actually closed stand is pretty close)
For recurve, there are broadly speaking...angular draw versus linear draw. The names are not really descriptive what the two styles really are referring to.
Angular draw, as demonstrated by Coach Arne Moe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6c8_-96h6BY

 
Thanks for the pics and diagrams! Very helpful.

I recalled that recurve shooters were suggested to get into a "golden triangle" where the following were all pretty much in a straight line:

bow wrist, bow elbow, bow shoulder, and draw shoulder and that line all pointed at the bow grip

the other force line is string, draw wrist, and draw elbow

The angle of the upper draw arm is what makes these two lines of force work together.

Is that totally off base since I don't see anything like that in your diagrams? (actually closed stand is pretty close)
Absolute BEST explanation of the LINEAR draw system by Chris Hill. Presentation at Vegas.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ha1D4LJ1120

 
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