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Our limbs are designed to provide the best performances in the -5%/+5% range of tiller bolts settings.

With a +15% setting:

You will lose much smoothness.
You will lose in terms of stored energy efficiency: the speed increase brought by the added poundage will be lower than expected.
The stress increase on the limbs will exceed 10%, corresponding to 5 inches of over-draw, with a risk of early failure and accelerated aging.
We consider such a configuration to be out of normal use conditions, and therefore it is not covered by our guarantee.
 
Those limbs makers so worried about +15% poundage increase, should remember that they do not specify any draw limit for their limbs. So nominal 40# at 26 1/4 used at 32 1/4, giving +12# or +30%# are fine, but 40# at 26 1/4 + 15%# are not?
Very few limbs makers fortunately use this kind of fancy math, surely not those we suggest for our risers.
 
Thanks for this! I was looking for a new riser and I have a really short 25.5" inch draw length. How is the longevity of those rubber dampeners behind the limb pockets? Are they replaceable?
 
Those limbs makers so worried about +15% poundage increase, should remember that they do not specify any draw limit for their limbs. So nominal 40# at 26 1/4 used at 32 1/4, giving +12# or +30%# are fine, but 40# at 26 1/4 + 15%# are not?
Very few limbs makers fortunately use this kind of fancy math, surely not those we suggest for our risers.
I have a 32# short Uukha x100 that I want to crank down to 38#. I should be safe but possibly losing warranty is a downer.
 
Just trying to expand my knowledge... So the GX riser has around 30% of limb weight adjustability, and comments herein talk about Uukha limbs having a much more narrow adjustment range or the warranty is in question... Wouldn't the limbs be dsigned to handle their max weight plus whatever for longer draws, and wouldn't the GX provide a limb's max weight with the limb bolts at or nearly bottomed out? Wondering where the danger to the limb might be if that 30% adjustment is taken off the max weight; or am I confusing my recurve lack of knowledge with my compound less lacking knowledge?

And I understand there might be a performance/efficiency loss dropping that much, but is the riser design taking limbs 15% over their rated weights?

Whole other train of thought on another track... I'm liking the idea of this riser; my first "real" riser was a 27" bought because I was bored and it was carbon... OOOHHH AAAHHH; and maybe isn't right for me, but the specs on the GX may work well for me... Don't compete over 30m typically, and only train to 40yds, and have no real need of more than my 30# limbs provide now; may go up a couple pounds someday, but no reason to ever approach the 40# riser recommended limit.
 
So effectively, according to that warranty statement, with say 40# Uukha limbs and a “normal” riser set at mid point your max drawlength is a little over 29”, maybe 30”. (Approx 1 to 2# per inch, 5%=2#) And that is the same for all lengths of limb. <scratches head> Well that’s not encouraging…

So put them in a short riser, or a less deflex riser….

Yeah, it is nonsense isn’t it?

Stretch
 
After thousands of GT risers shipped in almost 2 years, frankly we got those strange remarks about potential limbs problems from 2 limbs manufacturers, only. And no infos about any problem to limbs used on GT risers in over 30 countries around the world, including from those using GT risers with limbs at least from one of those 2 makers.
Those commenting about adjustment limits of the GT and GX simply forget that the adjustment is made over the entire range without changing the angles of the limbs to bolt and fulcrum, that are the real only critical points in loading too much the limbs and a problem that we have totally eliminated by our design.
 
Those commenting about adjustment limits of the GT and GX simply forget that the adjustment is made over the entire range without changing the angles of the limbs to bolt and fulcrum, that are the real only critical points in loading too much the limbs
I was going to suggest the same, but probably better you than me.
 
Why the length is 24.5" when the name is GX 25 lol. Also Lancaster doesn't have any in stock. Would love to order one for indoor.
This riser was just announced today. So that's why it's not in stock anywhere yet.

I am also curious why the length is 24.5 inches. I'm sure there is a good reason, because it's the Frangilli family. I know I'll learn something from the reason why.

This riser looks like a fantastic choice for an archer moving from beginner to intermediate. The widely adjustable draw weight will allow the archer to go up in weight through fewer sets of limbs. And it's light. The best "first serious riser" for a newer archer. I wish the price was a little lower. But this riser is a little more complex and technologically advanced than the typical chunk of aluminum. The GT and GX are the first of a new generation of the recurve bow riser.
 
We consider such a configuration to be out of normal use conditions, and therefore it is not covered by our guarantee.
I went to the Uukha web site is this is the only guarantee stated (no warranty):

Uukha products are legally guaranteed against manufacturing defects. If you discover a defect despite our controls, please contact your retailer.
Can you post the actual terms from Uukha if those are not correct. I am a little concerned that the Uukha web site does not explicitly show the guarantee nor warranty if the conditions are different than what are stated.
 
Hi, it's on Uukha website under FAQ. They specifically call out Gillo GT and how it may void warranty
First the Uukha site states it voids the guarantee, not the warranty. Uukha posts the guarantee, which is only against manufacturing defects. There is nothing about use. Can you post the complete guarantee (or warranty) if the current guarantee on the site is not in fact the guarantee. You should be shipping the guarantee/warranty with a product and that is the only product agreement you have with the customer. A vague FAQ statement is not a legal contract in terms of an actual product guarantee/warranty.

For example, this is the Hoyt warranty: https://s3.hoyt.com/uploads/images/hoyt_limited_warranty_9_10_15.pdf
 
First the Uukha site states it voids the guarantee, not the warranty. Uukha posts the guarantee, which is only against manufacturing defects. There is nothing about use. Can you post the complete guarantee (or warranty) if the current guarantee on the site is not in fact the guarantee. You should be shipping the guarantee/warranty with a product and that is the only product agreement you have with the customer. A vague FAQ statement is not a legal contract in terms of an actual product guarantee/warranty.

For example, this is the Hoyt warranty: https://s3.hoyt.com/uploads/images/hoyt_limited_warranty_9_10_15.pdf
I do not have guarantee/ Warranty as I bought my ex1 many years ago and my x100 used. I assume guarantee = warranty, maybe a French thing? Maybe some else here can confirm using Gillo GT is against warranty.
 
Why the length is 24.5" when the name is GX 25 lol. Also Lancaster doesn't have any in stock. Would love to order one for indoor.
My barebow student just ordered the GX 25 from Alternative Services in the UK. ETA is Sep 7, 2021...about a week via Royal Post.
 
Talk about thread creep. LOL
 
About availability:
- mass final assembly and shipping to dealers has started on August 26. Orders received at that time were already 40% more than the total available quantity from the first production batch. so shipments have been done to each customer in percentage to orders received.
Of course, Italian dealers and all those in Europe getting air shipment have already received the GX. Ground shipment will take a bit more in Europe, air shipments to USA, Asian countries and Australia few days more.
Second production batch will start assembling and shipping from mid of this month, and is already sold out , third lot will be shipping from mid October including also LH version.
As of the strong demand, we are trying to increase production but it it is not a very simple task, so we forecast that situation will become "normal" for our GX stock around November/December only. If you want to buy a GX, you have therefore to be very fast or very patient.
 
About size:
- Not all 25" risers in the market are 25" long. They range from 24"+ to 26" - . Many reasons, but the main one is optimizing the use of aluminum at milling and/or accommodating some design parts that can't fit well on the drawing table. The real length of the "working" bow is not related to the physical length of the body of the riser only, but to a combination of riser and limbs used. Average commercial strings in the market have lengths that are suitable to a very wide range of real bow lengths. Up to now, no one has had any problem in getting strings for our GT-25 Formula, that is a 25.5" riser, nor to GX-25 ILF, that we clearly declare 24.5" long. As almost no one is using GT risers or GX at factory set for pockets angles, these differences should be totally transparent to users.
 
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