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After 8 months I finally sold it. It would have been gone in a couple weeks if shipping had not skyrocketed due to the covid conundrum. I believe Jim related that it cost about $65 to ship the CC from KY to MI in February. A few months later the cost was double that.....by late August USPS would not accept a package that size and both UPS and FedEx wanted close to $150. I knew once the CC arrived that I would not be using both and there was no reason to take up the space. My Viper SI was in virtually new condition and the AT buyer happened to be up my way buying a travel trailer a week or so ago.
I figured the shipping would be a deal killer. Those tree stand companies have such reduced shipping rates it’s cheap for them to ship. I see mostly locally on Craig’s List.
 
I have a Treewalker and really like how it bites the tree and how comfortable it is. I don't like that I can't adjust it once up a tree. bought an equalizer and it is a good stand but dont feel as secure as the tree walker. I wonder if someone can comment on he cougar claw compared to the Treewalker and/or equalizer ability to bite into the tree securely.
 
I figured the shipping would be a deal killer. Those tree stand companies have such reduced shipping rates it’s cheap for them to ship. I see mostly locally on Craig’s List.
I could have sold the Summit at least 6x....maybe 10x if shipping wasn't outrageous. A local fellow was interested, but backed out. A bunch of that over several months before finally the right buyer came along. He is really happy with it and took it out last weekend, so it is an "alls well that ends well" kind of a deal.

Over in the AT classifieds a fellow had a bow press for sale...suddenly changed from shipping to local pick up only. Related that the shipping estimate was $300....:oops:
 
I have a Treewalker and really like how it bites the tree and how comfortable it is. I don't like that I can't adjust it once up a tree. bought an equalizer and it is a good stand but dont feel as secure as the tree walker. I wonder if someone can comment on he cougar claw compared to the Treewalker and/or equalizer ability to bite into the tree securely.
I had the Equalizer and with the double row of teeth it bit into the tree nicely and I felt very secure until I opened up the mechanism and seen all of the plastic. The stand was probably very safe but my paranoia about the plastic got to me and I felt less safe in it.
The Treewalker just tore up the bark too much.
 
I could have sold the Summit at least 6x....maybe 10x if shipping wasn't outrageous. A local fellow was interested, but backed out. A bunch of that over several months before finally the right buyer came along. He is really happy with it and took it out last weekend, so it is an "alls well that ends well" kind of a deal.

Over in the AT classifieds a fellow had a bow press for sale...suddenly changed from shipping to local pick up only. Related that the shipping estimate was $300....:oops:
On top of that the time it takes. I’m in Ohio and bought a longbow off a guy in the northeast, the bow went to Pensacola Fla where it sat for to weeks before it came north to Ohio (USPS), that was before shipping prices started to spike.
 
I have a Treewalker and really like how it bites the tree and how comfortable it is. I don't like that I can't adjust it once up a tree. bought an equalizer and it is a good stand but dont feel as secure as the tree walker. I wonder if someone can comment on he cougar claw compared to the Treewalker and/or equalizer ability to bite into the tree securely.
I've owned many different treestands over the years. It's just one of the advantages of working in the industry. I loved my summits until I got my first Buckshot open shot stand. Then I went to the Equalizer. I really liked it. They were closed down for several years and I bought a HIgher level. It is built in the same factory with the same basic parts except for the adjustable parts. I personally liked the higher level because of their connection system and leveling system. Both were good stands. Then came the cougar claw. It has a much simpler foolproof leveling system. The angle of the arms is much steeper which opens up the cable more when climbing making it easier to get over bark and small stubs. It is made in America.
I tried the Treewalker one weekend. Some people call it biting the tree. I call it chewing up the tree. The TW definitely does bite but there is a price to pay with that. Most farmers don't like it and some public land could cost a hunter some money. No nails or spikes in trees are allowed. Most of the properties that I hunt are very small and only have a few trees conducive for a climber. A couple of trips up and down the same tree and you can see a lot of damage. As soon as I saw that I sold the stand.
Most self-climbing stands can be secured to the tree with a set of Stabilizer straps. If you keep your feet to the backside of the stand when climbing and set the platform with your heels before putting all your weight on the platform the counterbalance will keep you in place with pretty much any stand. When Treelounge was in business, I climbed a steel pole with one at the Birmingham show. Treelounge treestands didn't have any teeth on their treestand, just aluminum blades.;)
 
I took this photo after climbing off the Cougar Claw late this morning after my field test. It was very secure going up and down, but note the tree shows zero effects or evidence that a climber had been used on it. Just a really well designed stand.....with Third Hand accessories, a slumper seat and LWCG carry system it is about perfect for me.
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See you have a Q Strap. I have had mine for many years now and really like it
Yes sir! I read about it on a climber thread several years ago and decided to invest.....a very prudent investment. Note the position of the Q-Safe.... that is were it ended up as I clipped off and stepped down off the platform. When I stepped on to climb, clipping on was the first thing I did as well. Even with a top end climber and Third Hand stabilizer straps, it is wise to have a secure back-up system to keep you from rapidly returning to the hard ground.
 
Looking at the Q Safe does it have slots to hook on to once set to eliminate slack in the tether when seated?
That stand looks good, especially the finish.
 
Looking at the Q Safe does it have slots to hook on to once set to eliminate slack in the tether when seated?
That stand looks good, especially the finish.
Yes, the Q-Safe has a double strap that is sewn into partitions so you can move the caribiner upward to provide the desired amount of slack or tension while at height. It is easier to watch their video than explain it....


The finish is customized. When it arrived from Jim, it had a few nicks in the dark green factory paint job from use and I decided to start over. After wiping it down completely with a rag soaked in 91% isopropyl alchool, I worked on it for a few weeks doing a sponge paint job with a variety of Rustoleum camo colors. This was done in June so it had plenty of time to cure in the sun to dissipate the paint odor. Worked well from my perspective.

The only thing left is the seat section front rail pad. I replaced the larger stock one with foam pipe wrap and taped it in place with camo duct tape. I asked my wife to resize the stock velcro cover, but decided to try camo grip tape instead. That should arrive tomorrow and I will post a photo with my impressions.
 
I figured the shipping would be a deal killer. Those tree stand companies have such reduced shipping rates it’s cheap for them to ship. I see mostly locally on Craig’s List.
Cougar Claw® Tree Stands is free shipping ..USA Made I just check they still offer...On the web page
 
My question is why do guys use a climber vs a stand and sticks? Weight is the same or less with the sticks. The sticks will get you into any tree in the woods vs hunting for a suitable tree. Sticks get you into a better tree for background. With sticks you can pull the bottom one or two and return the next day with little effort and hunt the same tree again. Time from the bottom of tree to being hunt ready is the same. Just looking for why guys even consider a climber anymore? And i still have several. None get used anymore.
 
I use both…the stick/stand set-up is absolutely more versatile, but not even close with regard ease of getting set and I’d like to think that I am fairly skilled with both. The sticks and loc-on require much more effort, from attaching each stick and/or adjusting for a one stick to attaching the stand and packing and un packing.

I know severs will tell me I must be doing something wrong, trust me when I say I’m not. I can get to the base of my tree with my climber on my back and be set at my hunting hunting faster and more importantly safer than if I got to the same tree with my M7 and sticks.

It’s not significantly faster, but it is easier in every regard….at least for me.
 
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