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Fernlicht

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Hey all,
I live in a windy/gusty place and experienced that during full draw sometimes my arrow gets blown off by a gust. It happened during a competition lately and the arrow was blown away at the end of my pull through and I could not stop. Not only I did not hit the target, I had the impression that it is dangerous since I cut my arrows on the short side.
Now I’m wondering why not using a drop away like a Hamskea Arrow Rest Epsilon for Target archery mostly WA. What are the cons? I just did not see any target archer using it.
Thanks
 
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A lot of drop aways out there in competition, but even if absolutely no other pro ever used a drop away has no bearing on you and if using one makes your time on the line in the wind safer. ,
 
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Thanks for your thoughts. Is there a more target orientated drop away rest?
Could you name some current models so I can look them up?
 
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Fernlicht said:
Is there a more target orientated drop away rest?
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There are lots of "Target" rests. Most come with a lizard tongue :( which will not solve the wind problem.

The Hamskea's have a lot of fans as drop type rests go, and the rest prongs are fairly deep. There are a lot of other options with deeper prongs. Then it comes down to limb driven or cable driven as a preference. Properly timed they all work fine. And across the deep blue sea, it's a matter of availability. The limb driven rests are simpler with respect to timing.
 
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Dale_B1 said:
No. Again it doesn't matter. The bow, arrow, competition could care less. Choose one, set it up correctly and go.
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You certainly could use any brand or model, but I can't think of a single high level competitive archer who used a QAD. Hamskea's tend to rule the competitive scene, more than likely due to the significantly lower failure rate.
 
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Smada962 said:
You certainly could use any brand or model, but I can't think of a single high level competitive archer who used a QAD. Hamskea's tend to rule the competitive scene, more than likely due to the significantly lower failure rate.
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I am not into the "Monkey see Monkey do" thought process. If I knew I was shooting in the wind I would not even think twice about shooting a QAD. I have both Hamskea rests and QAD rests and both work perfect. Oh ya...I am pretty far from being a pro :).
 
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JPiniewski said:
I am not into the "Monkey see Monkey do" thought process. If I knew I was shooting in the wind I would not even think twice about shooting a QAD. I have both Hamskea rests and QAD rests and both work perfect. Oh ya...I am pretty far from being a pro :).
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I'm not either. I used QAD's for a few years on my hunting bows, but had two fail, so after the second failure I siwtched to Hamskea and have never looked back. I also use one on my target setup now, and have never had issues with any of them.

I know people love QAD's, and many never have issues, but it's pretty easy to find a pile of people who have had issues with them at times, certainly a lot more than you tend to hear about from Hamskea. Not that Hamskea are perfect, but the failure rate objectively speaking seems to be signifcantly lower.
 
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If used a QAD HDX would cut the arms down so the arrow just sits in a
small valley so that the wind can't blow it off but gives clearance to the shaft so it doesn't hit any thing. I shoot my hunting rest the same way,
I found no reason the have the whole arrow captured with in the rest at any time. In 60+ years haven't needed the arrow totally captured.
 
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Fernlicht said:
Thanks for your thoughts. Is there a more target orientated drop away rest?
Could you name some current models so I can look them up?
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Some prefer not to use bulky Hamskea trinity due weight and overall size. Some have had hand contacts with, due various risers and hands positions (grips). I prefer Hamskea hybrid target pro micro tune. It's sleek and with a new G-FLEX launcher tough to beat
 
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I use a vapor trail limb driver micro elite and have had no issues with it. I have a little plastic dill stuck on the shelf to hold my arrow when the rest is down, and it is a draw comes up into a small v and has never fallen off even in some high winds.


My hunting bows have always had QADs and I've never had an issue with those either
 
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Get a Hamskea and you can try it both ways. I live in Wyoming and shoot them non-drop.
 
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On my target Hamskeas I always like to run the Contour blade, it has a little "cradle" which gives a little more confidence if you can't see if the arrow falls off the blade. Or if it is a real big concern the hunter set ups with the whale tail; picks up the arrow anywhere inside the containment cage and I've never had an issue where the arrow didn't center correctly on the blade.
 
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Smada962 said:
You certainly could use any brand or model, but I can't think of a single high level competitive archer who used a QAD. Hamskea's tend to rule the competitive scene, more than likely due to the significantly lower failure rate.
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I call BS. I have a Hamskea Hybrid Target Pro. Had issues to start with but got that sorted out. Works great but no better than VT Limb Drivers. Have broken 2 springs on the Target Pro. Why I don't know. Breaks just so and the clamp for the draw cord comes loose and will fall off. I see Lancaster sells the springs in packs 2.
My first VT Limb Driver turned 12 years old this past summer and still works like new. I have 3 other Limb Drivers on my other bows - for target and hunting.
 
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SonnyThomas said:
I call BS. I have a Hamskea Hybrid Target Pro. Had issues to start with but got that sorted out. Works great but no better than VT Limb Drivers. Have broken 2 springs on the Target Pro. Why I don't know. Breaks just so and the clamp for the draw cord comes loose and will fall off. I see Lancaster sells the springs in packs 2.
My first VT Limb Driver turned 12 years old this past summer and still works like new. I have 3 other Limb Drivers on my other bows - for target and hunting.
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I didn't say Hamskea's never fail, I said they tend to fail less than QAD's. A couple quick searches on AT or anywhere else archery is discussed will show this.
 
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Smada962 said:
I didn't say Hamskea's never fail, I said they tend to fail less than QAD's. A couple quick searches on AT or anywhere else archery is discussed will show this.
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Yes, I've seen numerous posts with QAD failures. BUT. I never believed the QAD designed for target use. Two things stick out. The long forked launch arm was designed for capture - some cut off the longish tangs. Target shooters don't need capture and surely don't need a launch arm that stays up when just letting down. This let down feature requires excellent timing. I've seen 2 QAD blow up and both times the launch arm stayed up. Draw cord stretches the internal mechanism has the lock engaged and launch arm can't drop. Okay, launch arm is the locked upright position, shooter fires and blows arrow right through launch arm - jamming the internal mechanism. Then when inspecting/testing the launch arm won't move - it's jammed.

Far worse than the QAD for launch arm locking in upright position was the NAP Freedom rest. The Freedom didn't require a draw cord. The arrow had to weigh enough to create friction to pull the launch arm back that little bit so the internal mechanism got out of the way. More robust maybe. Arrow would blow through and not damage anything. It just messed the vanes of the arrow.
 
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